Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
On 6/12/2011 3:11 PM, John Abreau wrote: > The R10-S4 may be discontinued, but if you search Neweegg for > "Foxconn atom", you find the R30-D4, which also has an Atom cpu. > Presumably this should also be low-power as well. > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119039 This one (and the related ones that show up in the "similar products" links that Newegg offers you) look like updated versions: GMA 3150 graphics instead of the 945 and a faster Atom CPU. There might be slight differences in power consumption due to the faster CPU and updated chipset but I would expect them to still be low power systems. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
Richard Pieri wrote: > S/MIME is not the same as PGP/GPG. It is not a religious argument. > It is a clear, technical distinction. And how about if you delete all your root certificates (rather inconvenient on a web browser, but probably minimal impact on a mail client), and instead only use certificates that you obtain direct from the other party or through your chosen web of trust? A point I made earlier in this thread is that the client integration and message integration is superior with S/MIME. No external tools to mess with. The weak point is they key distribution and validation infrastructure. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs
Mark Woodward wrote: > ...unless there is a REALLY specific need, Windows is a very poor > platform for this type of application. Yes, considering that if you went with Linux you might be able to get by with a $30 router platform. In fact, there are commercial home automation products that do exactly that: http://www.micasaverde.com/ (Earlier versions of this product clearly use a repurposed ASUS router. They've since switched to a custom platform.) -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA "Enterprise solutions through open source." Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
The point I'm trying to make is that automation is similar to simplification. As Albert Einstein used to say, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler". When you oversimplify something, you essentially destroy a fundamental part of it. The same concept applies to automation. We don't want to be required to do something manually, or hire someone to do it for us, if it can be automated. But something that cannot be automated without sacrificing a critical part of its essence should not be automated. And my gut feeling is that when you try to automate the trust model, there's a serious danger that you could recreate weaknesses similar to what we see in the SSL infrastructure. Maybe there are parts of it that can be safely automated, but I'd want to examine the implementation long and hard to make sure they were safe. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Anthony Gabrielson wrote: > > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:50 PM, John Abreau wrote: > > If you don't like the web-of-trust model at all, then instead of extending > it, > you can replace it entirely. Either way, I'm just saying that a distributed > model where you choose who to trust, or choose who to delegate decisions > about trust, is better than a model where everyone in the world is > effectively > compelled to trust the One True Authority. > > Agreed. I think a decentralized model is ideal. If one one central server > is compromised the network as whole should not be dead. > > If someone compromises your lawyer who you trust to manage your > PGP keys, you need to change your lawyer and your keys' trustdb. > You should be able to hire a PGP "locksmith" to audit and clean up > your keyrings. > > I think a web-of-trust (note: not the current one) can do that for you. PGP > provides you with a public key and private key, who cares who has your > public key. So if I want to send an email to you - my computer should be > able to ask yours for it. There is a little bit of infrastructure involved, > like Kerberos, but if my key server gets hacked the results are alot less > dire and easier to clean up. I don't necessarily think we need to hire > people to do things that should be handled automatically. > > If someone compromises Verisign's top-level root certificates, you need > to change your top-level SSL authority. How many independent top-level > certificate authorities are there? My understanding is that all of them are > heavily depended on Verisign, and none of them can truly be considered > independent. If my understanding is correct, then there is no other > authority that can replace Verisign. > > I think the very idea of a root level certificate is a loser. Its one of my > main gripes against DNSSEC. They are essentially saying you need to trust > them and they give you no visibility at all. If they are compromised or > paid to do something (by say a government) the users may have no visibility. > Have you followed Blackberry in India? If so I think you will see I'm not > stretching at all. > > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > But you can certainly establish all the same external context using S/MIME > or PGP alike. The only difference is whether or not you HAVE TO establish > external context. You have it backwards. PGP/GPG do not require the use of the external verification channel. They can be used just fine with blind trust that the sender or signer is who he claims to be. The difference is that with S/MIME I am required to trust that the CA has not been compromised, but with PGP/GPG I have an independent verification mechanism. Let me give you two real world examples. The first is trusting PGP/GPG blindly. Install Debian over the network. There. You've just blindly trusted that the signatures on all of the packages were made by the valid Debian keys. No web of trust or external verification required. No different from using S/MIME signatures. The second: Several jobs back I had to communicate with a little company working on a sensitive project. Their preference was to use PGP for encryption. We -- the person I was dealing with specifically and myself -- exchanged keys. We then called each other in turn and verified the fingerprints of our respective keys. This verification was not required to use PGP, but the option is there and the company insisted on using it. That verification would not be possible with S/MIME. There is no validation mechanism besides the CAs with S/MIME. We would both need to trust that our CAs had not been compromised. This company was unwilling to make that assumption. The company? Rohr Industries (now owned by Goodrich). At the time, circa 1997, it was a Lockheed contractor on the X-33 programme. Rohr had justifiable concerns over both foreign and domestic espionage and they chose PGP instead of S/MIME for communications with other contractors. S/MIME is not the same as PGP/GPG. It is not a religious argument. It is a clear, technical distinction. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
On Jun 11, 2011, at 23:49 , Chris O'Connell wrote: > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. I built one myself with a Mini-ITX board with an integrated Intel Atom 330 (dual core, 1.6GHz) I don't think the motherboard I bought 2 years ago is still around, but there are plenty of alternatives. Most motherboards these days have a power on after failure option in the BIOS. I used some spare SODIMMs, a cheap case, a couple lower power hard drives, and an 85+ efficient PSU. The whole thing cost ~$400, and I've been very happy with it for the past couple years. It uses ~40 watts at idle, and ~50 watts when it's cranking. My suggestion, is therefore to build something yourself around a MiniITX platform. :) -peter ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs
On 06/12/2011 10:31 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Chris O'Connell > Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM > Subject: Small Form Factor PCs > To: blu > > > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. I know I replied once already, I want to ask a quick couple questions. (1) Is this a on-off or do you intend to productize your system? (2) What version of Windows? You can use Wince. (3) umm, why Windows? (4) What do you expect for $500, a full PC or just the components. $500 is, IMHO a very generous number. (5) If this is a one-off, I have a VIA-800 miniitx motherboard with 512M of ram and an IDE compact flash adapter that makes a neat little pseudo-embedded disk-free system that was removed from my robot last year. I could probably let it go for $100 bucks with a standard ATX power supply. With regards to #1, if you are going to product-ize this, you may want to consider a lower cost platform such as ARM. With regards to #3 and maybe #1, unless there is a REALLY specific need, Windows is a very poor platform for this type of application. Also, take a look at www.mini-itx.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. I have a fit-pc2 (www.fit-pc2.com) which works very well. Maybe it will suite your needs? Scott > > Thanks, > > Chris O. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
The R10-S4 may be discontinued, but if you search Neweegg for "Foxconn atom", you find the R30-D4, which also has an Atom cpu. Presumably this should also be low-power as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119039 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Alex Pennace wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49:07PM -0400, Chris O'Connell wrote: >> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home >> automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here >> are the key requirements for the system: >> 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to >> the unit is lost. >> 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. >> 3. I would like it to be less than $500. >> 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).. >> >> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was >> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. > > I have ample experience with this: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119012 > (discontinued at Newegg, you may be able to get it elsewhere). > > 1. This system offers a BIOS option to power on after power failure, > > 2. Sips power. I don't recall the exact power usage when running at > full bore, but it was low. > > 3. Inexpensive > > 4. Should run Windows well. > > And unlike many SFF systems, this one uses a standard NEMA/IEC power > cord. No power brick to deal with. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix GnuPG KeyID: 0xD5C7B5D9 / Email: abre...@gmail.com GnuPG FP: 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > PGP ring of trust allows for non-centralized asynchronous auditable > out-of-band context. If I exchange key prints in a meatspace signing > party with John and he with you another day, I may decide that's > sufficient reason to believe you actually exist and that that's your > key, or not, at my choice. Yup you're absolutely correct. However, thats why it will never see widespread use - BLU folks aren't the average user and the average user will never jump through those kinds of hurdles. PGP out of the box is a PIA, with some really neat features. I've been doing some research, that at least I find interesting, to make it PGP useable; if I can ever get one of the papers published it may even make a neat talk. Anthony ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
On 06/11/2011 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. There was a gentleman at the last installfest (I'm sorry I forgot his name) that was trying to sell something that might fix your needs. Hopefully he'll see this and respond. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49:07PM -0400, Chris O'Connell wrote: > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. I have ample experience with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119012 (discontinued at Newegg, you may be able to get it elsewhere). 1. This system offers a BIOS option to power on after power failure, 2. Sips power. I don't recall the exact power usage when running at full bore, but it was low. 3. Inexpensive 4. Should run Windows well. And unlike many SFF systems, this one uses a standard NEMA/IEC power cord. No power brick to deal with. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs
On 06/12/2011 10:31 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Chris O'Connell > Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM > Subject: Small Form Factor PCs > To: blu > If you go the way of the LinuxPCRobot.org, I bought an Intel Dual Core Atom board D510M0. Mini ITX form factor and very efficient. It will even run with a 65W 12V ATX power supply. The board, with CPU, costs about $100 bucks. > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. > > Thanks, > > Chris O. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
I have a Shuttle I really like. Small, quiet, decent energy use. It looks like their low-end X350 nettop may meet your specs. I bought my Shuttle barebones and found it pretty easy to build; I'm not sure which models are available to ship what way. Nathan On 06/11/2011 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote: > I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home > automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here > are the key requirements for the system: > 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to > the unit is lost. > 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. > 3. I would like it to be less than $500. > 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). > > Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was > looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. > > Thanks, > > Chris O. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
> From: Bill Ricker [mailto:bill.n1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:23 PM > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey > wrote: > > Same as PGP. > > wrong. Ok, religious belief. No problem. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] fedora 15 doesn't start (some) server processes?
Hey, I just updated two servers from fedora 10 and 13 to fedora 15. In both cases some of the server processes running on these systems did NOT start on F15, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get them running. In one case I couldn't get Sendmail to start. In the other case it was squid. In both cases "systemctl is-enabled foo.service" reports "enabled" (for foo == sendmail and squid). running 'chkconfig' shows that the services are 'on'. Everything I can do to understand the system is telling me that the service should start at boot time, but alas, nope, on reboot it doesn't start at all! Of course, once the system is up and running I can start it by hand through one of many means, systemctl, service, or running /etc/init.d/foo. Has anyone else seen this? I can't believe I'm the first person to have this issue.. -derek PS: For a temporary workaround I'm starting the services from /etc/rc.local, but I'd really like to figure out why the services wont run on their own. -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] locales and multi-language setup
Greetings on this overcast day. My wife if visiting her parents in Latvia. She will take a notebook to give to them so that they can communicate with us and watch our home DVDs. I purchased a Lenovo T61 in great shape from ebay. It has windows XP on it and a few good extras so I would like to keep it for the good hires graphics and DVD playability. I need to configure it for Latvian as cheap as possible (i.e. $0). My plan is to use Google to the fullest extent possible. For Windows XP, I installed a Latvian version of Firefox and set the home page to Google.lv/ig to get them into the Google mode (I will create an account). I also installed a Latvian version of Wubi just for snob appeal. My wife has friends in Riga that are computer savvy but we hate to impose. I would appreciate any suggestions that you have on how to make this system work. It looks great to me, but my parents-in-law are not computer savvy and neither is my wife who is going alone to Riga to give them the machine. Thanks for the help. Jay ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail - SOLVED
When we configured the new mail server a couple weeks ago, I had turned off SELinux via setenforce 0, but I forgot to edit the config file in /etc/sysconfig. Yesterday, Jerry had to reboot the server, and in doing so, SELinux got turned back on, and that's what was blocking all the mail. I've disabled SELinux again, and that seems to have fixed the backlog. On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Abreau wrote: > We're having some issues with the BLU mail server. > This message is to check whether the list is working. > > Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM. > > > -- > John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix > GnuPG KeyID: 0xD5C7B5D9 / Email: abre...@gmail.com > GnuPG FP: 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs
-- Forwarded message -- From: Chris O'Connell Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM Subject: Small Form Factor PCs To: blu I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here are the key requirements for the system: 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to the unit is lost. 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. 3. I would like it to be less than $500. 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. Thanks, Chris O. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs
I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home automation software on. The software is not very resource intensive. Here are the key requirements for the system: 1. Must be able to power back up without human intervention if power to the unit is lost. 2. Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC. 3. I would like it to be less than $500. 4. Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu). Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me? I was looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists. Thanks, Chris O. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > Same as PGP. wrong. > It's the external context that gives you more trust. Correct. Most people don't know what the context in a SSL cert really is, though. Free certs from Commercial CA's provide a trusty flavor with no actual trust context. Hi price certs from commercial CA's may include competent manual verification of identity or incompetent. Cheap certs will validate that this is göögle.com but won't warn you it isn't what you think... PGP ring of trust allows for non-centralized asynchronous auditable out-of-band context. If I exchange key prints in a meatspace signing party with John and he with you another day, I may decide that's sufficient reason to believe you actually exist and that that's your key, or not, at my choice. -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail
On 06/12/2011 09:39 AM, John Abreau wrote: > We're having some issues with the BLU mail server. > This message is to check whether the list is working. > > Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM. > > Reply or No? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Postfix errors and backlog from discuss@blu list
We've been having some weird problems since installing SpamAssassin on the BLU mailserver. This morning I removed the settings from postfix's master.cf file so that smtpd no longer uses the content filter. Doing that seems to have fixed the problem for new mail, but all the old queued mail is still stuck because it has the content filter hardwired into its queue files, which are in a binary format. I tried editing one of the files in vi to remove the content filter reference, but that only resulted in that message being moved from the deferred director to the corrupt directory in var/spool/postfix. The errors in maillog show the following for the content filter: > Jun 12 11:18:24 pegasus postfix/pipe[22783]: fatal: open lock file > pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file: Permission denied > Jun 12 11:18:25 pegasus postfix/master[12418]: warning: process > /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe pid 22783 exit status 1 > Jun 12 11:18:25 pegasus postfix/master[12418]: warning: > /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe: bad command startup -- throttling Given that smtpd no longer uses the filter, I assume that all these are from attempts to process the backlog of messages from before I edited master.conf and reloaded postfix. The "spamchk" script is something I found when I googled how to integrate spamassassin with postfix. I modified the script to bypass spamassassin entirely, since I can't find a way to edit the queued messages to eliminate the content-filter from them, and that had no effect at first. The "fatal: open lock file pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file" seems to refer to /var/spool/postfix/pid/unix.spamchk. I chmod'ed this to 666, hoping that doing so might eliminate that part of the problem. When I did that, all the messages queued in /var/spool/postfix/deferred quickly moved to /var/spool/postfix/active, but they're still not being delivered. New mail is, and the logfile is still getting new entries saying "fatal: open lock file pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file". Meanwhile, it looks like new traffic is being delivered successfully. The log entry about "warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe: bad command startup" presumably is telling me that the content-filter definition in master.cf is somehow invalid, but I'm having no luck figuring out why. Here's how it's defined: > spamchk unix - n n - 10 pipe > flags=Rq user=filter argv=/usr/local/sbin/spamchk -f ${sender} -- > ${recipient} The spamchk script currently looks like this: > #! /bin/sh > > # Variables > SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix -i" > TMP=/var/tmp/out.$$ > > # Clean up when done or when aborting. > trap "rm -f $TMP" 0 1 2 3 15 > > Temporarily make this a dummy filter, to flush out postfix queue > cat > $TMP > $SENDMAIL "$@" < $TMP > exit $? Can anyone familiar with postfix see where the problem could be? -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail
We're having some issues with the BLU mail server. This message is to check whether the list is working. Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM. -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix GnuPG KeyID: 0xD5C7B5D9 / Email: abre...@gmail.com GnuPG FP: 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss