Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
On 6/12/2011 3:11 PM, John Abreau wrote:
> The R10-S4 may be discontinued, but if you search Neweegg for
> "Foxconn atom", you find the R30-D4, which also has an Atom cpu.
> Presumably this should also be low-power as well.
>
>  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119039

This one (and the related ones that show up in the "similar products" 
links that Newegg offers you) look like updated versions: GMA 3150 
graphics instead of the 945 and a faster Atom CPU. There might be slight 
differences in power consumption due to the faster CPU and updated 
chipset but I would expect them to still be low power systems.
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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote:
> S/MIME is not the same as PGP/GPG.  It is not a religious argument.
> It is a clear, technical distinction.

And how about if you delete all your root certificates (rather
inconvenient on a web browser, but probably minimal impact on a mail
client), and instead only use certificates that you obtain direct from
the other party or through your chosen web of trust?

A point I made earlier in this thread is that the client integration and
message integration is superior with S/MIME. No external tools to mess
with. The weak point is they key distribution and validation infrastructure.

 -Tom

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Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Tom Metro
Mark Woodward wrote:
> ...unless there is a REALLY specific need, Windows is a very poor
> platform for this type of application.

Yes, considering that if you went with Linux you might be able to get by
with a $30 router platform. In fact, there are commercial home
automation products that do exactly that:

http://www.micasaverde.com/

(Earlier versions of this product clearly use a repurposed ASUS router.
They've since switched to a custom platform.)

 -Tom

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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread John Abreau
The point I'm trying to make is that automation is similar to simplification.
As Albert Einstein used to say, "Everything should be made as simple
as possible, but no simpler". When you oversimplify something, you
essentially destroy a fundamental part of it.

The same concept applies to automation. We don't want to be required
to do something manually, or hire someone to do it for us, if it can be
automated. But something that cannot be automated without sacrificing
a critical part of its essence should not be automated. And my gut feeling
is that when you try to automate the trust model, there's a serious danger
that you could recreate weaknesses similar to what we see in the SSL
infrastructure.

Maybe there are parts of it that can be safely automated, but I'd want to
examine the implementation long and hard to make sure they were safe.


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Anthony Gabrielson
 wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:50 PM, John Abreau wrote:
>
> If you don't like the web-of-trust model at all, then instead of extending
> it,
> you can replace it entirely. Either way, I'm just saying that a distributed
> model where you choose who to trust, or choose who to delegate decisions
> about trust, is better than a model where everyone in the world is
> effectively
> compelled to trust the One True Authority.
>
> Agreed.  I think a decentralized model is ideal.  If one one central server
> is compromised the network as whole should not be dead.
>
> If someone compromises your lawyer who you trust to manage your
> PGP keys, you need to change your lawyer and your keys' trustdb.
> You should be able to hire a PGP "locksmith" to audit and clean up
> your keyrings.
>
> I think a web-of-trust (note: not the current one) can do that for you.  PGP
> provides you with a public key and private key, who cares who has your
> public key. So if I want to send an email to you - my computer should be
> able to ask yours for it.  There is a little bit of infrastructure involved,
> like Kerberos, but if my key server gets hacked the results are alot less
> dire and easier to clean up.  I don't necessarily think we need to hire
> people to do things that should be handled automatically.
>
> If someone compromises Verisign's top-level root certificates, you need
> to change your top-level SSL authority. How many independent top-level
> certificate authorities are there? My understanding is that all of them are
> heavily depended on Verisign, and none of them can truly be considered
> independent. If my understanding is correct, then there is no other
> authority that can replace Verisign.
>
> I think the very idea of a root level certificate is a loser.  Its one of my
> main gripes against DNSSEC.  They are essentially saying you need to trust
> them and they give you no visibility at all.  If they are compromised or
> paid to do something (by say a government) the users may have no visibility.
>  Have you followed Blackberry in India?  If so I think you will see I'm not
> stretching at all.
>
>



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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> 
> But you can certainly establish all the same external context using S/MIME
> or PGP alike.  The only difference is whether or not you HAVE TO establish
> external context.

You have it backwards.  PGP/GPG do not require the use of the external 
verification channel.  They can be used just fine with blind trust that the 
sender or signer is who he claims to be.  The difference is that with S/MIME I 
am required to trust that the CA has not been compromised, but with PGP/GPG I 
have an independent verification mechanism.

Let me give you two real world examples.  The first is trusting PGP/GPG 
blindly.  Install Debian over the network.  There.  You've just blindly trusted 
that the signatures on all of the packages were made by the valid Debian keys.  
No web of trust or external verification required.  No different from using 
S/MIME signatures.

The second:  Several jobs back I had to communicate with a little company 
working on a sensitive project.  Their preference was to use PGP for 
encryption.  We -- the person I was dealing with specifically and myself -- 
exchanged keys.  We then called each other in turn and verified the 
fingerprints of our respective keys.  This verification was not required to use 
PGP, but the option is there and the company insisted on using it.

That verification would not be possible with S/MIME.  There is no validation 
mechanism besides the CAs with S/MIME.  We would both need to trust that our 
CAs had not been compromised.  This company was unwilling to make that 
assumption.

The company?  Rohr Industries (now owned by Goodrich).  At the time, circa 
1997, it was a Lockheed contractor on the X-33 programme.  Rohr had justifiable 
concerns over both foreign and domestic espionage and they chose PGP instead of 
S/MIME for communications with other contractors.

S/MIME is not the same as PGP/GPG.  It is not a religious argument.  It is a 
clear, technical distinction.

--Rich P.

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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Peter Doherty

On Jun 11, 2011, at 23:49 , Chris O'Connell wrote:

> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
> 
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

I built one myself with a Mini-ITX board with an integrated Intel Atom 330 
(dual core, 1.6GHz)
I don't think the motherboard I bought 2 years ago is still around, but there 
are plenty of alternatives.  Most motherboards these days have a power on after 
failure option in the BIOS.
I used some spare SODIMMs, a cheap case, a couple lower power hard drives, and 
an 85+ efficient PSU.  The whole thing cost ~$400, and I've been very happy 
with it for the past couple years.
It uses ~40 watts at idle, and ~50 watts when it's cranking.

My suggestion, is therefore to build something yourself around a MiniITX 
platform.  :)

-peter
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Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Mark Woodward
On 06/12/2011 10:31 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris O'Connell
> Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM
> Subject: Small Form Factor PCs
> To: blu
>
>
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
>
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.
I know I replied once already, I want to ask a quick couple questions.

(1) Is this a on-off or do you intend to productize your system?
(2) What version of Windows? You can use Wince.
(3) umm, why Windows?
(4) What do you expect for $500, a full PC or just the components. $500 
is, IMHO a very generous number.
(5) If this is a one-off, I have a VIA-800 miniitx motherboard with 512M 
of ram and an IDE compact flash adapter that makes a neat little  
pseudo-embedded disk-free system that was removed from my robot last 
year. I could probably let it go for $100 bucks with a standard ATX 
power supply.


With regards to #1, if you are going to product-ize this, you may want 
to consider a lower cost platform such as ARM.
With regards to #3 and maybe #1, unless there is a REALLY specific need, 
Windows is a very poor platform for this type of application.

Also, take a look at www.mini-itx.com

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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Scott Ehrlich
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell  wrote:
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
>
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

I have a fit-pc2 (www.fit-pc2.com) which works very well.

Maybe it will suite your needs?

Scott

>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris O.
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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread John Abreau
The R10-S4 may be discontinued, but if you search Neweegg for
"Foxconn atom", you find the R30-D4, which also has an Atom cpu.
Presumably this should also be low-power as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119039



On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Alex Pennace  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49:07PM -0400, Chris O'Connell wrote:
>> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
>> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
>> are the key requirements for the system:
>> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
>> the unit is lost.
>> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
>> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
>> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu)..
>>
>> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
>> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.
>
> I have ample experience with this:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119012
> (discontinued at Newegg, you may be able to get it elsewhere).
>
> 1. This system offers a BIOS option to power on after power failure,
>
> 2. Sips power. I don't recall the exact power usage when running at
> full bore, but it was low.
>
> 3. Inexpensive
>
> 4. Should run Windows well.
>
> And unlike many SFF systems, this one uses a standard NEMA/IEC power
> cord. No power brick to deal with.
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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread Anthony Gabrielson

On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Bill Ricker wrote:
> PGP ring of trust allows for non-centralized asynchronous auditable
> out-of-band context. If I exchange key prints in a meatspace signing
> party with John and he with you another day, I may decide that's
> sufficient reason to believe you actually exist and that that's your
> key, or not, at my choice.

Yup you're absolutely correct.  However, thats why it will never see widespread 
use - BLU folks aren't the average user and the average user will never jump 
through those kinds of hurdles.  PGP out of the box is a PIA, with some really 
neat features.  I've been doing some research, that at least I find 
interesting, to make it PGP useable; if I can ever get one of the papers 
published it may even make a neat talk.

Anthony
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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread David Kramer
On 06/11/2011 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
> 
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

There was a gentleman at the last installfest (I'm sorry I forgot his
name) that was trying to sell something that might fix your needs.
Hopefully he'll see this and respond.
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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Alex Pennace
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49:07PM -0400, Chris O'Connell wrote:
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
> 
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

I have ample experience with this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119012
(discontinued at Newegg, you may be able to get it elsewhere).

1. This system offers a BIOS option to power on after power failure,

2. Sips power. I don't recall the exact power usage when running at
full bore, but it was low.

3. Inexpensive

4. Should run Windows well.

And unlike many SFF systems, this one uses a standard NEMA/IEC power
cord. No power brick to deal with.
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Re: [Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Mark Woodward
On 06/12/2011 10:31 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris O'Connell
> Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM
> Subject: Small Form Factor PCs
> To: blu
>
If you go the way of the LinuxPCRobot.org, I bought an Intel Dual Core 
Atom board D510M0. Mini ITX form factor and very efficient. It will even 
run with a 65W 12V ATX power supply. The board, with CPU, costs about 
$100 bucks.
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
>
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris O.
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Re: [Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Nathan Meyers
I have a Shuttle I really like. Small, quiet, decent energy use. It 
looks like their low-end X350 nettop may meet your specs.

I bought my Shuttle barebones and found it pretty easy to build; I'm not 
sure which models are available to ship what way.

Nathan


On 06/11/2011 11:49 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote:
> I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
> automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
> are the key requirements for the system:
> 1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
> the unit is lost.
> 2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
> 3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
> 4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).
>
> Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
> looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris O.
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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Bill Ricker [mailto:bill.n1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:23 PM
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey 
> wrote:
> > Same as PGP.
> 
> wrong.

Ok, religious belief.  No problem.

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[Discuss] fedora 15 doesn't start (some) server processes?

2011-06-12 Thread Derek Atkins
Hey,

I just updated two servers from fedora 10 and 13 to fedora 15.  In both
cases some of the server processes running on these systems did NOT
start on F15, and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get them
running.

In one case I couldn't get Sendmail to start.  In the other case it was
squid.  In both cases "systemctl is-enabled foo.service" reports
"enabled" (for foo == sendmail and squid).  running 'chkconfig' shows
that the services are 'on'.  Everything I can do to understand the
system is telling me that the service should start at boot time, but
alas, nope, on reboot it doesn't start at all!

Of course, once the system is up and running I can start it by hand
through one of many means, systemctl, service, or running
/etc/init.d/foo.

Has anyone else seen this?  I can't believe I'm the first person to have
this issue..

-derek

PS: For a temporary workaround I'm starting the services from
/etc/rc.local, but I'd really like to figure out why the services wont
run on their own.
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[Discuss] locales and multi-language setup

2011-06-12 Thread James Kramer
Greetings on this overcast day.

My wife if visiting her parents in Latvia.  She will take a notebook
to give to them so that they can communicate with us and watch our
home DVDs.  I purchased a Lenovo T61 in great shape from ebay.  It has
windows XP on it and a few good extras so I would like to keep it for
the good hires graphics and DVD playability. I need to configure it
for Latvian as cheap as possible (i.e. $0).  My plan is to use Google
to the fullest extent possible.  For Windows XP, I installed a Latvian
version of Firefox and set the home page to Google.lv/ig to get them
into the Google mode (I will create an account).   I also installed a
Latvian version of Wubi  just for snob appeal.  My wife has friends in
Riga that are computer savvy but we hate to impose.

I would appreciate any suggestions that you have on how to make this
system work.  It looks great to me, but my parents-in-law are not
computer savvy and neither is my wife who is going alone to Riga to
give them the machine.

Thanks for the help.

Jay
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Re: [Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail - SOLVED

2011-06-12 Thread John Abreau
When we configured the new mail server a couple weeks ago,
I had turned off SELinux via setenforce 0, but I forgot to
edit the config file in /etc/sysconfig.

Yesterday, Jerry had to reboot the server, and in doing so,
SELinux got turned back on, and that's what was blocking
all the mail.

I've disabled SELinux again, and that seems to have fixed
the backlog.


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Abreau  wrote:
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> This message is to check whether the list is working.
>
> Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM.
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[Discuss] Fwd: Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Chris O'Connell
-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris O'Connell 
Date: Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM
Subject: Small Form Factor PCs
To: blu 


I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
are the key requirements for the system:
1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
the unit is lost.
2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).

Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

Thanks,

Chris O.
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[Discuss] Small Form Factor PCs

2011-06-12 Thread Chris O'Connell
I'm looking for a very small form factor computer to install some home
automation software on.  The software is not very resource intensive.  Here
are the key requirements for the system:
1.  Must be able to power back up  without human intervention if power to
the unit is lost.
2.  Should be small and less energy intensive than a regular PC.
3.  I would like it to be less than $500.
4.  Must be capable of running Windows (so either an AMD or INTEL cpu).

Can anyone make any suggestions about what might work well for me?  I was
looking at the Dell Zino, but am unsure if a better option exists.

Thanks,

Chris O.
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Re: [Discuss] Relevance of PGP?

2011-06-12 Thread Bill Ricker
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey  wrote:
> Same as PGP.

wrong.

>   It's the external context that gives you more trust.

Correct. Most people don't know what the context in a SSL cert really
is, though.

Free certs from Commercial CA's provide a trusty flavor with no actual
trust context.  Hi price certs from commercial CA's may include
competent manual verification of identity or incompetent. Cheap certs
will validate that this is göögle.com but won't warn you it isn't what
you think...

PGP ring of trust allows for non-centralized asynchronous auditable
out-of-band context. If I exchange key prints in a meatspace signing
party with John and he with you another day, I may decide that's
sufficient reason to believe you actually exist and that that's your
key, or not, at my choice.


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Re: [Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail

2011-06-12 Thread jbk
On 06/12/2011 09:39 AM, John Abreau wrote:
> We're having some issues with the BLU mail server.
> This message is to check whether the list is working.
>
> Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM.
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[Discuss] Postfix errors and backlog from discuss@blu list

2011-06-12 Thread John Abreau
We've been having some weird problems since installing SpamAssassin
on the BLU mailserver. This morning I removed the settings from
postfix's master.cf file so that smtpd no longer uses the content filter.
Doing that seems to have fixed the problem for new mail, but
all the old queued mail is still stuck because it has the content
filter hardwired into its queue files, which are in a binary format.

I tried editing one of the files in vi to remove the content filter reference,
but that only resulted in that message being moved from the deferred
director to the corrupt directory in var/spool/postfix.

The errors in maillog show the following for the content filter:


> Jun 12 11:18:24 pegasus postfix/pipe[22783]: fatal: open lock file 
> pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file: Permission denied
> Jun 12 11:18:25 pegasus postfix/master[12418]: warning: process 
> /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe pid 22783 exit status 1
> Jun 12 11:18:25 pegasus postfix/master[12418]: warning: 
> /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe: bad command startup -- throttling


Given that smtpd no longer uses the filter, I assume that all these are from
attempts to process the backlog of messages from before I edited
master.conf and reloaded postfix.

The "spamchk" script is something I found when I googled how to
integrate spamassassin with postfix. I modified the script to bypass
spamassassin entirely, since I can't find a way to edit the queued
messages to eliminate the content-filter from them, and that
had no effect at first.

The "fatal: open lock file pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file" seems to
refer to /var/spool/postfix/pid/unix.spamchk. I chmod'ed this to 666,
hoping that doing so might eliminate that part of the problem.
When I did that, all the messages queued in /var/spool/postfix/deferred
quickly moved to /var/spool/postfix/active, but they're still not being
delivered.  New mail is, and the logfile is still getting new entries saying
"fatal: open lock file pid/unix.spamchk: cannot open file".

Meanwhile, it looks like new traffic is being delivered successfully.

The log entry about "warning: /usr/libexec/postfix/pipe: bad command startup"
presumably is telling me that the content-filter definition in master.cf
is somehow invalid, but I'm having no luck figuring out why. Here's how
it's defined:


> spamchk   unix  -   n   n   -   10   pipe
>  flags=Rq user=filter argv=/usr/local/sbin/spamchk -f ${sender} -- 
> ${recipient}

The spamchk script currently looks like this:

> #! /bin/sh
>
> # Variables
> SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail.postfix -i"
> TMP=/var/tmp/out.$$
>
> # Clean up when done or when aborting.
> trap "rm -f $TMP" 0 1 2 3 15
>
>  Temporarily make this a dummy filter, to flush out postfix queue
> cat > $TMP
> $SENDMAIL "$@" < $TMP
> exit $?


Can anyone familiar with postfix see where the problem could be?



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[Discuss] Issues with blu.org mail

2011-06-12 Thread John Abreau
We're having some issues with the BLU mail server.
This message is to check whether the list is working.

Sent on Sunday, June 12 at 9:40 AM.


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