Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread John Abreau
On 2/9/17, ma...@mohawksoft.com  wrote:

> Actually, 62^8, [a-zA-Z0-9]{8}

Nope. By convention, email addresses are not case sensitive. Making
them case sensitive would break user expectations and create enormous
amounts of pointless frustration.

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Re: [Discuss] MIT usernames (was Re: KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7)

2017-02-09 Thread Bill Horne


Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Rich Braun  wrote:
> 
> Do you have a favorite email address, past or present?

Yes: bho...@lynx.dac.neu.edu.

I used it for about 15 years after I graduated, until Northeastern retired the 
Lynx system.

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Re: [Discuss] MIT usernames (was Re: KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7)

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 11:07:11AM -0800, Rich Braun wrote:
> My shortest (and first) email address was rkb@ai (DNS became the new-new thing
> a couple years later). Then for a decade or so I was ri...@mit.edu until my
> Athena sponsor headed off to the corporate world. Another fond memory of those
> early days is the domain spdcc.com.
> 
> I guess now the most concise I could do is r...@ci.net but for no good reason
> other than inertia I've kept the same lengthy address for the past 24 years.
> 
> Do you have a favorite email address, past or present?

Yes, but it's not mine. It's Tony Finch's.

d...@dotat.at

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[Discuss] MIT usernames (was Re: KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7)

2017-02-09 Thread Rich Braun
Not quite sure how a discussion of KVM veered off into MIT auth procedures,
but it did give me a bit of nostalgia.

My shortest (and first) email address was rkb@ai (DNS became the new-new thing
a couple years later). Then for a decade or so I was ri...@mit.edu until my
Athena sponsor headed off to the corporate world. Another fond memory of those
early days is the domain spdcc.com.

I guess now the most concise I could do is r...@ci.net but for no good reason
other than inertia I've kept the same lengthy address for the past 24 years.

Do you have a favorite email address, past or present?

-rich


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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread markw
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 11:40:28AM -0500, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>> Here's the problem with all this.
>>
>> 8 characters for a name. Yes, in a hypothetical sense you have
>> 2.183401056×10^14 possible passwords if you use 8 ascii alpha/numeric
>> characters with no punctuation characters, but the vast majority of that
>> space are random strings not suitable for nicknames or meaningful
>> identifiers. For instance, I can't see that any remaining meaningful
>> permutations of "john smith" could possibly be left. How many email
>> addresses do they assign a year? How many back-logged names did they
>> create at first?
>
> Let's call it 26^8 or so: 208 billion.

Actually, 62^8, [a-zA-Z0-9]{8}

>
> The real problem is the lack of human meaning and the fact that
> names are usually longer than 8 characters.
>
> How many do they assign a year? Roughly a freshman class worth,
> plus maybe a hundred more? So 1200ish.
>
> John Smith is out of luck. So is Elizabeth Jones. But still, they probably
> have better options than "bb30...@binghamton.edu" -- the login I was
> assigned so many years go, can still remember, and have absolutely no
> use for.
>
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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 11:40:28AM -0500, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
> Here's the problem with all this.
> 
> 8 characters for a name. Yes, in a hypothetical sense you have
> 2.183401056×10^14 possible passwords if you use 8 ascii alpha/numeric
> characters with no punctuation characters, but the vast majority of that
> space are random strings not suitable for nicknames or meaningful
> identifiers. For instance, I can't see that any remaining meaningful
> permutations of "john smith" could possibly be left. How many email
> addresses do they assign a year? How many back-logged names did they
> create at first?

Let's call it 26^8 or so: 208 billion.

The real problem is the lack of human meaning and the fact that
names are usually longer than 8 characters.

How many do they assign a year? Roughly a freshman class worth,
plus maybe a hundred more? So 1200ish.

John Smith is out of luck. So is Elizabeth Jones. But still, they probably
have better options than "bb30...@binghamton.edu" -- the login I was
assigned so many years go, can still remember, and have absolutely no
use for.

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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

On Thu, February 9, 2017 11:40 am, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote:
> Here's the problem with all this.
>
> 8 characters for a name. Yes, in a hypothetical sense you have
> 2.183401056×10^14 possible passwords if you use 8 ascii alpha/numeric
> characters with no punctuation characters, but the vast majority of that
> space are random strings not suitable for nicknames or meaningful
> identifiers. For instance, I can't see that any remaining meaningful
> permutations of "john smith" could possibly be left. How many email
> addresses do they assign a year? How many back-logged names did they
> create at first?
>
> When an alum dies, does their email address become available?

Generally @mit.edu addresses are "recovered" approximately 1-2 years after
they leave MIT.  There are exceptions for certain classes of people whose
accounts remain "sponsored".  It's unclear what happens if a sponsored
account owner passes.

Then there are "alum.mit.edu" accounts, which is MIT's "Email Forwarding
for Life", which allows more than 8 characters, so there's really no
issue.

-derek

>
>
>> Dan Ritter  writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:24:54AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
 Eric Chadbourne  writes:

 > Off topic, warl...@mit.edu, is the best email ever.

 Thanks.  I've had it since 1989.
>>>
>>> MIT trivia: once you have a username, you can't change it.
>>>
>>> http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/dont-screw-up-your-username
>>
>> Only mostly true.  I know a handful of people who successfully changed
>> their usernames.  It's rare, and only done in extreme circumstances.
>> But it *can* be done.
>>
>>> -dsr-
>>
>> -derek
>>
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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread markw
Here's the problem with all this.

8 characters for a name. Yes, in a hypothetical sense you have
2.183401056×10^14 possible passwords if you use 8 ascii alpha/numeric
characters with no punctuation characters, but the vast majority of that
space are random strings not suitable for nicknames or meaningful
identifiers. For instance, I can't see that any remaining meaningful
permutations of "john smith" could possibly be left. How many email
addresses do they assign a year? How many back-logged names did they
create at first?

When an alum dies, does their email address become available?


> Dan Ritter  writes:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:24:54AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>> Eric Chadbourne  writes:
>>>
>>> > Off topic, warl...@mit.edu, is the best email ever.
>>>
>>> Thanks.  I've had it since 1989.
>>
>> MIT trivia: once you have a username, you can't change it.
>>
>> http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/dont-screw-up-your-username
>
> Only mostly true.  I know a handful of people who successfully changed
> their usernames.  It's rare, and only done in extreme circumstances.
> But it *can* be done.
>
>> -dsr-
>
> -derek
>
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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 10:27:05AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Dan Ritter  writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:24:54AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
> >> Eric Chadbourne  writes:
> >> 
> >> > Off topic, warl...@mit.edu, is the best email ever.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.  I've had it since 1989.
> >
> > MIT trivia: once you have a username, you can't change it.
> >
> > http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/dont-screw-up-your-username
> 
> Only mostly true.  I know a handful of people who successfully changed
> their usernames.  It's rare, and only done in extreme circumstances.
> But it *can* be done.

Interesting. Without violating privacy, can you describe what
sort of thing qualifies as extreme circumstances?

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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread Derek Atkins
Dan Ritter  writes:

> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:24:54AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Eric Chadbourne  writes:
>> 
>> > Off topic, warl...@mit.edu, is the best email ever.
>> 
>> Thanks.  I've had it since 1989.
>
> MIT trivia: once you have a username, you can't change it.
>
> http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/dont-screw-up-your-username

Only mostly true.  I know a handful of people who successfully changed
their usernames.  It's rare, and only done in extreme circumstances.
But it *can* be done.

> -dsr-

-derek

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Re: [Discuss] KVM, virt-manager, and CentOS7

2017-02-09 Thread Derek Atkins
Dan Ritter  writes:

> On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 10:24:54AM -0500, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Eric Chadbourne  writes:
>> 
>> > Off topic, warl...@mit.edu, is the best email ever.
>> 
>> Thanks.  I've had it since 1989.
>
> MIT trivia: once you have a username, you can't change it.
>
> http://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/dont-screw-up-your-username

Only mostly true.  I know a handful of people who successfully changed
their usernames.  It's rare, and only done in extreme circumstances.
But it *can* be done.

> -dsr-

-derek

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[Discuss] Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, February 15, 2017 - Linux Backups

2017-02-09 Thread Jerry Feldman

When:  February 15, 2017 7PM (6:30PM for Q&A)
Topic: Linux Backups
Moderator: Brian DeLacey
Location: MIT Building E-51, Room 325
Note: Room change - next door to previous room.


Summary:
Managing Encrypted Linux Backups


Abstract:
Three tiny tutorials: rsync, duplicity, and boxbackup. Demonstrations: 
pros and cons, tips and tricks. Discussion, Case studies / audience 
participation.


performance
media
security
backup disasters (if anyone is brave enough to share)



For further information and directions please consult the BLU Web site
http://www.blu.org
Please note that there is usually plenty of free parking in the E-51
parking lot at 2 Amherst St, or directly on Amherst St.
Note: The Hayward St. lot has been closed affecting the MIT-E51 lot. 
They have opened up another lot on Hayward Street that was usually 
restricted.


After the meeting we will adjourn to the official after meeting meeting
location at The Cambridge Brewing Company
http://www.cambridgebrewingcompany.com/
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