Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-14 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 12/02/11 01:37, Graham Lauder wrote:


than MSO on XPSP2.
Why are you still on SP? (Or is that a typo?) If you ARE on SP2 then 
you will have had NO security updates since July last year


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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-14 Thread C
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 19:22, adept techlists - kazar wrote:
 The per capita GDP in that chart for Ethiopia, for example (there are 15
 countries with lower GDPs) is $1,000. Once you take into account the
 rich/poor divide that is rapidly growing wider in all non-socialized
 countries, the vast majority of Ethiopians live on far less than $1,000 per
 year. Visualize what kind of computer they might have, or might have access
 to in an internet cafe even in Addis Ababa. And if you put yourself in the
 skin of someone living in Ethiopia, Zimbabwe ($400 per-cap GDP), Cambodia
 ($2,000), Kenya ($1,600), India ($3,400)  etc ... you'll see that spending
 $36 on RAM and $40 on a HD and $20 on a burner is truly out of reach for
 most of the world population. (and one must have a fairly recent model of
 computer to take advantage of cheap RAM and peripherals, as well)

You can't really use those figures to give you a view of what it's
really like on the ground in Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda etc
(all places I've been to , and spent significant time in).  Yes there
are computers with only 256MB RAM around - but you're not going to be
running any modern office suite on these machines regardless of who
makes the software.  I also would not consider these computers the
norm... just old machines that have been recycled and reused... btu
taht are being replaced there just as they were in the west.

Things are changing rapidly in Africa.  Take Kenya for example where
10 years ago, no one had a personal computer except the expat
population, and a few of the ultra-rich.  Now it's only the very poor
who are still lagging behind.  The fast growing middle class are all
buying laptops - or diaspora are sending machines home to family
there.  This is something I also see happening in Rwanda and Uganda.

The point being... while hardware is relatively expensive in Africa,
it's not as harsh as it appears when you only look at the GDP.

C.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-14 Thread Christophe Strobbe


At 21:46 11/02/2011, David Nelson wrote:

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 21:03, Christophe Strobbe
christophe.stro...@esat.kuleuven.be wrote:
 (*) None of these articles mention LibrOffice, although the review says:
 developers are falling away like pine needles from a Christmas tree and
 competitors are making inroads to its market.

Could you please clarify whether it's from the OOo project or
LibreOffice project that developers are falling away like pine
needles from a Christmas tree?


The statement comes from a review of OpenOffice.org 3.3; it is about 
OpenOffice.org. Although the reviewer must be aware of LibreOffice, I 
found it strange that he doesn't mention any of the OOo competitors by name.




You didn't give any link to the article you were referring to, and a
search for libreoffice on the Linux Format site returned nothing,
otherwise I would have read for myself.


I simply bought the printed edition.
By the way, the cover DVD contains neither OpenOffice.org nor LibreOffice.

Best regards,

Christophe



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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-14 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 14/02/11 09:42, C wrote:


Possibly by tweaking the options.  You can get a significant startup
time decrease by adjusting a few things.  For example, go to Tools
Options  Memory and reduce the Graphics cache and memory per object.

Eh? You get a faster startup time by INCREASING memory per object!

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-14 Thread C
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 14:44, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
 On 14/02/11 09:42, C wrote:

 Possibly by tweaking the options.  You can get a significant startup
 time decrease by adjusting a few things.  For example, go to Tools
 Options  Memory and reduce the Graphics cache and memory per object.

 Eh? You get a faster startup time by INCREASING memory per object!


I meant to type change in that spot :-)  I'll leave it up to the
user to experiment which way works better for their needs.

C.

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Re: [Libreoffice] Fwd: [tdf-discuss] feature request, calc cell content copy behaviour

2011-02-14 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 17:35 +1100, Simon Cropper wrote:
 Kohei,
 
 The behaviour that I am talking about is...
 1. Insert value into A1, select the cell with the mouse so it is 
 highlighted then copy with Ctrl-C
 2. Select 3 or more other cells -- NOT in a continuous block (e.g. B2 
 and C3).
 3. Try and paste with Ctrl-V and you will get the error Insert into 
 multiple selection not possible
 
 I checked and this functionality has been available since Excel 2000.

Thanks a lot for the clarification.

Kohei


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Re: [Libreoffice] Fwd: [tdf-discuss] feature request, calc cell content copy behaviour

2011-02-14 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 09:44 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 17:35 +1100, Simon Cropper wrote:

  The behaviour that I am talking about is...
  1. Insert value into A1, select the cell with the mouse so it is 
  highlighted then copy with Ctrl-C
  2. Select 3 or more other cells -- NOT in a continuous block (e.g. B2 
  and C3).
  3. Try and paste with Ctrl-V and you will get the error Insert into 
  multiple selection not possible

I've re-added this.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks#Support_copying_of_a_single_range_and_pasting_it_to_multiple_ranges

This may actually be a pretty simple task, as we probably need to modify
the pasting side of things.  Still, we need to make sure that undo/redo
works with this operation.

Cheers,

Kohei

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Re: [tdf-discuss] RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs

2011-02-14 Thread twcw chenhall

On 12/02/11 00:55, NoOp wrote:

RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
64bit .debs are there, but not the 32bit .debs.

Clicking on 'Linux x86 (deb) results in:

null

Also checking:
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.1-rc1/deb/
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.1-rc1/deb/x86/
only shows .asc files.


The x86 debs for LO3.3.1RC1 are available as of this morning.

TerryW


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[tdf-discuss] Re: RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs

2011-02-14 Thread NoOp
On 02/14/2011 12:13 PM, twcw chenhall wrote:
 On 12/02/11 00:55, NoOp wrote:
 RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/
 64bit .debs are there, but not the 32bit .debs.

 Clicking on 'Linux x86 (deb) results in:

 null

 Also checking:
 http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.1-rc1/deb/
 http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.1-rc1/deb/x86/
 only shows .asc files.

 The x86 debs for LO3.3.1RC1 are available as of this morning.
 
 TerryW

Thanks. Got the same msg from Florian on the mirrors list. Downloaded,
installed  working.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs

2011-02-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Kudos to Thorsten for fixing it so fast! :)

NoOp wrote on 2011-02-14 21.28:

Thanks. Got the same msg from Florian on the mirrors list. Downloaded,
installed  working.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice in Tip Advies Internet

2011-02-14 Thread Simon Cropper

Christophe,

From memory all these features are also available in OpenOffice 3.3. 
Obviously as a fork that has just happened there is little difference 
between the packages except the perceived 'freeness' and future direction.


That said, I recollect that LibreOffice was talking about merging some 
Redhat Code with the OO base before release but unsure if this actually 
ever happened.


it would be good if someone was able to put together a package 
comparison matrix showing how OpenOffice and LibreOffice differs. Then 
as the branches diverge the value of using LibreOffice will become obvious.


Cheers Simon

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   Principal Consultant
   Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
   PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC
   W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au

On 15/02/11 00:42, Christophe Strobbe wrote:

  * Writer: better layout and navigation; new and improved import for MS
Works, Lotus Word Pro and WordPerfect documents;
  * Calc: smarter find  replace; handling 1 million rows; better border
formatting for cells; sheet tab in new colour;
  * Impress: easier layouting for slides; presenter view;
  * Draw: import and edit SVG;
  * in general: import and export features for Google Docs and Zoho
Office; easier to use print dialog; online help via WikiHelp.


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[tdf-discuss] Windows Tab for LibO + F4 repeating function

2011-02-14 Thread Do Hong Phuc
Dear Guys, there's OfficeTab for Ms Office. I found the same for OOo:Tabbed
Windows Extension
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Framework/WorkInProgress/Tabbed_Windows_Extension
but it doesn't work in version 3.3
Does anyone know which one is replacement for v3.3.0?

In Excel, F4 does function as repeating the most recent action while in
LibO, F4 key acts as Data Sources.
How we can assign F4 to repeat the most recent action?
Many thanks!

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