Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-02-19 Thread Bernhard Dippold

Hi Charles, *

CC'ing the design list...
(follow-up on the logo design should be there, on the general questions 
here on steering-discuss)


Charles-H. Schulz schrieb:

Hi,

@Bernhard: now we "just" need the logos without the TDF mention to be put on
a page with its source on the wiki, and I think we'll be ready to announce
our trademark policy Do you think you or Christoph can do that?


Great to hear that - but I didn't know that this logo is a precondition 
for the announcement.


I'm sorry that we didn't finalize the logo - main problem is, that there 
is a reasonable reason to modify the logo a bit, but we didn't manage to 
discuss the advantages and disadvantages in detail.


As you know there are important task to work on *right now* - and we 
still do this without having defined the general visual basis for our 
community...


Following the Branding Guidelines it is possible to use one or two parts 
of the tripartite logo (symbol, libreoffice text and TDF text) alone, so 
it is possible to create the "logo without TDF subline" by using the 
present logo.


I don't know how strong you see the relationship between the logo and 
the trademark announcement, but I can live very well with this version 
of our logo for some time - perhaps until the release of LibreOffice 
3.4, when we might introduce the updated logo (just my personal opinion 
- we'll discuss this on the design list).


When I find the time tonight, I'll be working on the logos.

Just to be sure I understood how you (and the trademark policy?) want to 
propose the use of our logos:


a) *The product* itself contains the *logo with TDF subline*.
We provide these binaries via our mirror system.
Distributors of the unmodified binaries are allowed to distribute the 
product, so they distribute it with the TDF subline inside the product.


b) *We* refer to the product and our community on our website, on 
marketing material, fair booths and other means by a *logo with TDF 
subline*.


This is only allowed for
- official community representatives (SC and board members described in 
the bylaws).
- officially approved international, language based or regional teams 
(including TDF members approved by the Membership Committee, so their 
work is led by the Community Bylaws) in consent with their dedicated 
mailing lists. If there is any doubt on the team's legitimation, a 
formal request here at the steering-discuss list is necessary.


c) *Single community members* and *other people* referring to our 
product and the community are not allowed to use the logo with TDF 
subline. This should avoid misinterpretation of their references as 
official community statements and presentations.


They should use the new *logo without this subline* we're going to provide.

What logo should be used if external references point to the foundation?

Do we need a logo for The Document Foundation (once it is established) 
without the "LibreOffice" text? Do you think of another possibility to 
distinguish official usage and external reference?


Best regards

Bernhard


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Re: [tdf-discuss] MacOS X install: use native packaging which can be installed without user confirmation?

2011-02-19 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM, J.B. Nicholson-Owens  wrote:
> Is there some way to install LibreOffice and its language packs completely
> from the command line?

the Installation of languagepacks on mac consists of extracting a
tarball included within the dmg - the GUI is only there to find the
installation location, ask for admin privileges if necessary and in
order not to have to use the commandline..

But as admin, asking for a way using the commandline, mount the dmg,
then just extract the tarball in the LO installation directory (tar -C
 -xjf /tarball.tar.bz2),
then umount/detach the languagepack.

ciao
Christian

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[tdf-discuss] Available LibreOffice/TDF wallpapers

2011-02-19 Thread Marc Paré
We have a short collection of wallpapers available for those interested. 
You will find the list here: 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Wallpapers


Many thanks to Paulo and Drew for the work.

ANSWER/COMMENT TO THE DISCUSSION LIST ONLY please.

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Trademark Policy of the Document Foundation

2011-02-19 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hi,

@Bernhard: now we "just" need the logos without the TDF mention to be put on
a page with its source on the wiki, and I think we'll be ready to announce
our trademark policy Do you think you or Christoph can do that?

Thank you,
Charles.

2011/2/15 Charles-H. Schulz 

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded the latest changes and modified the text accordingly, it
> incorporates many, if not most of the changes from RH:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TradeMark_Policy
>
> best,
> Charles.
>
> Le Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:39:14 +,
> Michael Meeks  a écrit :
>
> >
> > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 10:24 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote:
> > > > are we good on the TM policy? I'd like to move forward on this...
> > > I am, of course.
> >
> >   Oh ! did we fold in the Redhat advice ? (which seemed good to
> > me) - I believe we did not, it would be worth someone carefully doing
> > that I suppose.
> >
> >   ATB,
> >
> >   Michael.
> >
>
>
>
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[tdf-discuss] MacOS X install: use native packaging which can be installed without user confirmation?

2011-02-19 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens
In another thread, Uwe Altmann wrote docs for installing a LibreOffice 
language pack:

LangPack:
Download and open the *.dmg file
Start the Program "OpenOffice.org 3.3 Language Pack" into the dmg.
Select the LO/OOo-Version you want to update with the langpack.
Click OK
done.


Is there some way to install LibreOffice and its language packs 
completely from the command line?


It would be more convenient for admins who do large-scale deployments to 
be able to do automated installs, including installs from remote control 
systems like Apple Remote Desktop. The native MacOS X package allows one 
to use the "open" command to fully install packages without providing 
any kind of additional confirmation (such as clicking "OK").


Would LibreOffice hackers who package for MacOS X consider distributing 
LibreOffice software as native MacOS X packages so one could use the GUI 
or the "open" command?


Please note I'm talking about the package files inside the .dmg files LO 
already distributes, not the .dmg files.


Thanks.
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Re: [tdf-discuss] table tool bar keep open

2011-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi ,

Irmhild Rogalla wrote (19-02-11 09:37)

Am 18.02.2011 11:50, schrieb Avraham Hanadari:



Please! Can someone suggest how the table toolbar could be kept open on
a permanent basis?


I tried a lot, but found no possibility to keep open the table toolbar
permanently. For me it's the situation is the same as you described
(also for former versions of OO.o).
[...]
The same happens with the "Bullets and Numbering" toolbar.
Obviously the program distinguished not between having opened the
toolbar automatically or manually.

But I'm not sure, whether it's a bug or a feature ...
Could anyone here says something more about?


This is how it is intended to work.
If the possibilities discussed does not help you enough, Rick, you might 
want to try to find a developer interested in adding the option to choose.


Regards,
Cor


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Downloading Install file from home page fails

2011-02-19 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-02-18 17:26, John a écrit :

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:

On 2011/02/18 9:11 AM  John wrote:


Maybe there is some other discussion forum where I could have asked?


The help list is  us...@libreoffice.org
To subscribe send an e-mail to   users+subscr...@libreoffice.org

Larry


Larry, and Marc, thanks for the pointer to the "users" list.  I have
subscribed.  I have high hopes for LibreOffice, so I want to just
"read the mail" and keep track.  People have been begging OpenOffice
for many years for an outlining feature similar to MS Word, and it
seemed to me that this is the sort of thing where LibreOffice could
show their stuff.  We shall see.  Thanks!

John



Hi John:

Just a reminder that the first version 3.3 was just to set the suite in 
motion and to add those pressing bug/feature fixes. The next versions 
will truly show what the LibreOffice project is all about. The 
developers are an awesome bunch who don't seem to sleep. Their mailing 
list is extremely active.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [tdf-discuss] table tool bar keep open

2011-02-19 Thread RGB ES
AFAIK, it's a feature. If you want the table toolbar to not disturb
your work space, when it just drag it and anchor it below the text
area: I always put there all the contextual toolbars.
Another option is to close forever that toolbar (unchecking it when it
appears) and create a custom one (Tools > Customize > Toolbars tab)
with the buttons you need: custom toolbars are not contextual.
Regards
Ricardo

2011/2/19 Irmhild Rogalla :
> Hi Rick,
>
> Am 18.02.2011 11:50, schrieb Avraham Hanadari:
>>
>> The fact that the table tool bar opens when I am in a table, but
>> disappears whenever I move to surrounding parts of the page makes the
>> entire page jump up and down in a most disturbing manner. I use tables a
>> lot and would be very happy if I could keep the table toolbar open all
>> the time. I have tried all sorts of settings, but nothing I have tried
>> works.
>>
>> Please! Can someone suggest how the table toolbar could be kept open on
>> a permanent basis?
>
> I tried a lot, but found no possibility to keep open the table toolbar
> permanently. For me it's the situation is the same as you described (also
> for former versions of OO.o).
>
> Normally, if I want to keep a toolbar permanently open, I choose it from the
> View -> Toolbars menu. Of course, it's possible to choose "Table" here. Then
> the table toolbar is open while working.
> But: in that moment I quit doing anything in/with a table the table toolbar
> closed automatically.
> The same happens with the "Bullets and Numbering" toolbar.
> Obviously the program distinguished not between having opened the toolbar
> automatically or manually.
>
> But I'm not sure, whether it's a bug or a feature ...
> Could anyone here says something more about?
>
> regards
>        Irmhild
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] table tool bar keep open

2011-02-19 Thread Irmhild Rogalla

Hi Rick,

Am 18.02.2011 11:50, schrieb Avraham Hanadari:

The fact that the table tool bar opens when I am in a table, but
disappears whenever I move to surrounding parts of the page makes the
entire page jump up and down in a most disturbing manner. I use tables a
lot and would be very happy if I could keep the table toolbar open all
the time. I have tried all sorts of settings, but nothing I have tried
works.

Please! Can someone suggest how the table toolbar could be kept open on
a permanent basis?


I tried a lot, but found no possibility to keep open the table toolbar 
permanently. For me it's the situation is the same as you described 
(also for former versions of OO.o).


Normally, if I want to keep a toolbar permanently open, I choose it from 
the View -> Toolbars menu. Of course, it's possible to choose "Table" 
here. Then the table toolbar is open while working.
But: in that moment I quit doing anything in/with a table the table 
toolbar closed automatically.

The same happens with the "Bullets and Numbering" toolbar.
Obviously the program distinguished not between having opened the 
toolbar automatically or manually.


But I'm not sure, whether it's a bug or a feature ...
Could anyone here says something more about?

regards
Irmhild


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