[tdf-discuss] Google Summer of Code

2011-03-22 Thread Jon Hamkins
Google has just announced the accepted projects for the Google Summer of 
Code 2011, and LibreOffice is on the list.  Congratulations!  I think 
this will be great for TDF and LibreOffice!


 Jon

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3.2 is now available

2011-03-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 22/03/2011 14:17, Charles Marcus a écrit :
> Questions...
>
> 1. Why is the help pack separate?
>
> It isn't that big, and separating it from the main install - which is
> something OOo NEVER did - just complicates the installation process.
>
> Also - when an update to LibO is posted, is an updated help file also
> automatically posted?
Please read the long discussions about this decision in the ml archives.
It is not only an issue related to the size of install files. Doing help
available on the wiki, is a mean to easily update the help and better
keep it synchronized with the code.
> 2. When will individual language builds be made available?
>
> I am getting VERY tired of having to do a custom install on and
> disabling DOZENS of foreign language dictionaries that I do not want or
> need.
You have only to disable globally  the installation of dictionaries and
then enable only the dictionaries that you need. Two clicks if you want
only one dictionary.
> I know that disk space was a problem/concern initially, but it has been
> long enough... please provide smaller individual language builds.
Disk space is a problem for servers and the most the total size of
install set is big the most the time to synchronize mirrors is long.

Have a nice day
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3.2 is now available

2011-03-22 Thread Do Hong Phuc
I suggest still to keep the help pack seperated with the main setup package
to make its size as smaller as possible.
And seperate the language package as many languages are unneccessary for
someone.
To avoid installing un-desired dictionaries, you can directly modify the
libreoffice33.msi with ORCA, but it will be take you much of time to modify.

Thanks!

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:21 AM, elcico2001 एल्चिको wrote:

> Il 22/03/2011 14:17, Charles Marcus ha scritto:
>
>  Questions...
>>
>> 1. Why is the help pack separate?
>>
>> It isn't that big, and separating it from the main install - which is
>> something OOo NEVER did - just complicates the installation process.
>>
>> Also - when an update to LibO is posted, is an updated help file also
>> automatically posted?
>>
>> 2. When will individual language builds be made available?
>>
>> I am getting VERY tired of having to do a custom install on and
>> disabling DOZENS of foreign language dictionaries that I do not want or
>> need.
>>
>> I know that disk space was a problem/concern initially, but it has been
>> long enough... please provide smaller individual language builds.
>>
>> 3. Until question #2 is resolved, is there maybe an install flag that I
>> can use to tell the installer to only install the desired dictionary?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
> +1
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] What was fixed in 3.3.2?

2011-03-22 Thread Do Hong Phuc
Again, I'm eager of waiting for Calc to be able to save .xlsx with
over 65536 rows fully soon.

On 3/22/11, Volker Merschmann  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2011/3/22 Leif Lodahl :
>> What was in fact fixed in this version?
>> The wiki doesn't give much help
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Weekly_Summary nor does the
>> release notes http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/
>>
> It has been written in the announcement of rc2
> http://www.mail-archive.com/announce@documentfoundation.org/msg00037.html
> Should be added to the release notes
>
> Bye
>
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Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-22 Thread aqualung

Italo Vignoli wrote:
> 
> I was working as a consultant for Adobe at that time, and I have been 
> the PDF spokeperson for Europe for several years.
> 
> It is true that many years have gone by, but fonts are handled by 
> operating systems in the same way. If they are not installed in their 
> specific folder at boot time, they cannot be used for editing documents.
> 
> 
Straight from the horse's mouth...  

Leaving aside the question of the font embedding that Microsoft Word offers,
exactly, it appears that font embedding in OOo isn't going to happen.

Still, how should people proceed who want to be sure their document appears
exactly the same across platforms and regardless of what fonts are installed
on the recipient's system?

It appears they have four options:

- Save to PDF (but this won't be editable except with Adobe Acrobat)
- Save to .odt and use only the most widely used fonts 
- Save to .odt and use a relatively less common font, then send this font
together with document file (only legal if the font's license permits, which
some do), or
- Save to .odt and point recipient to websites where font can be legally and
freely downloaded.

If it isn't going to be a feature in OOo, then perhaps the Help could be
expanded to explain these options? (If no expert is available for this task,
I would volunteer to do a first draft... but I'm strictly a novice at this.)

Many websites and pages tackle the topic of typography. I have about two
dozen bookmarks in my Firefox of type websites including repositories with
free fonts (I think the most liberal license is called SIL) and typography
education.

Recently, for example,  http://mashable.com/2011/03/04/typography-resources/
mashable.com  published an article listing eight such websites.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3.2 is now available

2011-03-22 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको

Il 22/03/2011 14:17, Charles Marcus ha scritto:

Questions...

1. Why is the help pack separate?

It isn't that big, and separating it from the main install - which is
something OOo NEVER did - just complicates the installation process.

Also - when an update to LibO is posted, is an updated help file also
automatically posted?

2. When will individual language builds be made available?

I am getting VERY tired of having to do a custom install on and
disabling DOZENS of foreign language dictionaries that I do not want or
need.

I know that disk space was a problem/concern initially, but it has been
long enough... please provide smaller individual language builds.

3. Until question #2 is resolved, is there maybe an install flag that I
can use to tell the installer to only install the desired dictionary?

Thanks,

   

+1

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[tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 3.3.2 is now available

2011-03-22 Thread Charles Marcus
Questions...

1. Why is the help pack separate?

It isn't that big, and separating it from the main install - which is
something OOo NEVER did - just complicates the installation process.

Also - when an update to LibO is posted, is an updated help file also
automatically posted?

2. When will individual language builds be made available?

I am getting VERY tired of having to do a custom install on and
disabling DOZENS of foreign language dictionaries that I do not want or
need.

I know that disk space was a problem/concern initially, but it has been
long enough... please provide smaller individual language builds.

3. Until question #2 is resolved, is there maybe an install flag that I
can use to tell the installer to only install the desired dictionary?

Thanks,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] What was fixed in 3.3.2?

2011-03-22 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi,

2011/3/22 Leif Lodahl :
> What was in fact fixed in this version?
> The wiki doesn't give much help
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Weekly_Summary nor does the
> release notes http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/
>
It has been written in the announcement of rc2
http://www.mail-archive.com/announce@documentfoundation.org/msg00037.html
Should be added to the release notes

Bye

Volker

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[tdf-discuss] What was fixed in 3.3.2?

2011-03-22 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hi,
What was in fact fixed in this version?
The wiki doesn't give much help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Weekly_Summary nor does the
release notes http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

Cheers,
Leif

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Re: RE : [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature request - embed font

2011-03-22 Thread aqualung
I had understood Mirek's proposal to mean that there would be one "official"
online font repository, or perhaps several. 

Embedding a non-embeddable font in a document file is simply not possible,
according to what I've read so far. Installing an installable font embedded
in a file as a system font was once possible (in Windows) but not anymore. 

So of the four levels of embedding/licensing, "Installable" is irrelevant
because inoperative (in Windows). "Embeddable" is not a worry because it is
governed by the font itself, likewise "Print/Preview". Even if I wanted to
breach the license by embedding when I am not allowed to I could not. The
same for "No embedding allowed" -- again, the font controls and a user has
no say in the matter.

I guess there would still be the matter of distribution/copying rights to
worry about, which is distinct from the four levels of embedding licensing.

And, good point about some people not being online all the time.


Steve Edmonds-2 wrote:
> 
> Without the font being packaged in the document the only solution would
> then be to post them on line, encouraging  breaking the license terms,
> unless I had a personal online font repository.
> 


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