[tdf-discuss] TDF fundraising suggestion - Bitcoin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, At Florian's recommendation I am posting this to the list for discussion. The fund raising effort by The Document Foundation recently has been quite remarkable and no doubt it will continue in this vein. My little suggestion is intended to change or remove nothing from the current state of affairs, merely to add an option to the usual array of financial options of credit cards, PayPal, cheques and bank transfers. The suggestion is, as the subject line indicates, that TDF consider adding a Bitcoin address for accepting donations. For those of you unfamiliar with Bitcoin, it is the world's first open source, peer-to-peer crypto-currency. Bitcoin uses cryptographic functions to secure the currency and transactions, while using peer-to-peer networking to bypass the usual central clearing houses of currency transactions (e.g. banks and governments). More detail on Bitcoin, including the original technical paper, is available on the Bitcoin home page: http://www.bitcoin.org/ I went into a little further detail on my blog a couple of weeks or so ago (here: http://www.adversary.org/wp/?p=243), which might serve as an easier introduction. When I first emailed the info address for TDF, Bitcoin (BTC) had just reached parity with the US dollar (USD). It has stayed consistently above that since then. Now it is almost at parity with the British pound (GBP) and the Euro (EUR). Current pricing taken from numerous exchanges and trade between Bitcoin and other fiat currencies is available on Bitcoin Watch: http://bitcoinwatch.com/ The increasing value and acceptance of Bitcoin is making it a viable alternative currency. In the context of The Document Foundation it makes it a viable additional channel for revenue. The more so because it costs nothing to install the Bitcoin client on a TDF system and add a Bitcoin payment address to the donations page. Other organisations, like the EFF, are already taking this route. So ... thoughts, opinions? Regards, Ben - -- Ben McGinnes http://www.adversary.org/ Twitter: benmcginnes Systems Administrator, Writer, ICT Consultant Encrypted email preferred - primary OpenPGP/GPG key: 0xA04AE313 http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x371AC5BFA04AE313 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAk23crgACgkQNxrFv6BK4xMu9ACfZQl/kV1RmRArfIekVkN+G5Xs k4QAn0ejbus9O6O0S/51v4ajzg0ItFim =ZoEM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:13 AM, toki wrote: > On 25/04/2011 08:44, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> It is OK if it has a paypal or whatever donate link to explicitly > cover the costs of running the server (but it must be clear that this > > You do realize that the organization that puts up the "donation link" > has to register in each of the fifty states of the united states, and > each of the thirteen provinces and territories of Canada, and each > country in Europe, and each overseas province of France, etc, or face > possible civil or criminal prosecution, or both, in the respective > political entity in which they failed to register, don't you? No, and I'd be really surprised if this was true. But you surely have some documents to prove that claim, don't you? (and when I wrote donation above, it should be clear that I don't mean tax-decountability or other special stuff). ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Microsoft Producer for Powerpoint 2003 equivalent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/07/2011 11:06 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: > Hi Randolf, > > On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 07:40 -0400, Randolph, Ronald E. wrote: >> Just a question guys, before I decide on your great product. > > End user questions don't belong on the developer list. > > Please use the discuss list for that. > > Thanks, > > Michael. > Hello Ronald, I am not sure what features you are looking for but you could export a presentation to Flash (File > Export > File type: swf) and publish it online wherever you'd like to. Here's an example: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/659391/2010-2011-mile-end/2010-01-30-mile-end.swf In the future you may also ask similar questions on Shapado, see my signature for the link. Cheers, Fabian - -- LibreOffice questions ? Des questions sur LibreOffice ? Preguntas acerca de LibreOffice ? Ask LibreOffice: http://libreoffice.shapado.com/ ~ Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk23RzIACgkQfUcTXFrypNXMkACeP6f9qCRkYE1K+mkLLl0DFLXz lMEAnA9xgbtdYP7hgl//kG19cx5OWd0T =h45Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Request for Libre Office on Spoon
Hi all,
Blake from Spoon here. I posted the question about featuring LibreOffice on
Spoon, but didn't realize I would need to subscribe to the discussion list in
order to get replies. I've subscribed and caught up on the thread so I'd like
to take a moment to backtrack and answer some questions posed about the service.
Mac and Linux platform development: No, Spoon does not currently work on these
platforms... yet. Cross platform development is a priority, though, and it is a
project we are working on for the near future.
As to Harold Fuchs' question:
"If I create a document using the Spoon version of LibreOffice ("SLO"), where
will that document exist? On a Spoon server somewhere or on the PC I was using
when I ran SLO? If the document contains pictures or sound/video clips, where
are those?"
Answer: Spoon powered applications perform identically to their native
counterparts. Wherever you would normally store documents created with a
natively installed version of LibreOffice, you would be able to do the same
with the Spoon virtualized version. As an added bonus/ side note, both free and
paid Spoon accounts come with a predetermined amount of available cloud storage.
Again, my apologies for not making proper use of the discussion email list
earlier. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Blake Madden
Account Manager
Spoon
Connect your desktops to the cloud
Web: spoon.net
Latest apps @spoonapps and games @spoongames
US: 877-223-3551 x1005
Int'l: 206-774-8769
Fax: 206-388-3110
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-Original Message-
From: Carl Symons [mailto:carlsym...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:59 PM
To: discuss@documentfoundation.org; Blake Madden
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Request for Libre Office on Spoon
I didn't get too deep into Spoon, but it looks a good resource for
LibreOffice users. Not that much different conceptually from Mozilla
offerings.
Carl
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Blake Madden wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was referred to this mailing list by Florian Effenberger of The Document
> Foundation. My name is Blake and I work for a company called Spoon, which
> offers the ability to launch desktop apps from the web with no installs.
>
> We recently received a request to add LibreOffice to the Spoon.net app
> library. We'd like to partner with The Document Foundation to offer
> LibreOffice on Spoon. In the interest of transparency and public input,
> Florian suggested I submit my request to this mailing list for discussion.
>
> You can see examples of Spoon powered apps at http://spoon.net/apps . For
> free apps and trials, Spoon is a free service, and all that is needed for
> distribution is written permission.
>
> Feel free to shoot me an email if you have any questions. Thanks for your
> time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Blake Madden
> Account Manager
> Spoon
>
>
> [Play-At-Spoon-On-White-Small]
>
> Connect your desktops to the cloud
> Web: spoon.net and games
> @spoongames
>
> US: 877-223-3551 x1005
> Int'l: 206-774-8769
> Fax: 206-388-3110
> 1000 Dexter Avenue, 5th Floor
> Seattle, Washington 98109
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, wrote: Hi everyone, I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few things straight. ... 2. Ads. Yes, we have them. They are only Adsense text ads, I do not and will never permit image ads or 3rd party sponsor ads. I think this is a responsible and simple method of keeping the forum running if it gets hit with more traffic. Good hosting is not cheap. I realize that some users hate ads with a passion. Most of those users are already running an ad blocker, so they will never see the ads anyway. And additionally, any registered user can disable the ads with two checkboxes in his user preferences. You probably use a dedicated host from http://www.softlayer.com/dedicated/(at least $119 per month) because $ host www.libreofficeforum.org libreofficeforum.org has address 174.121.218.38 and $ host 174.121.218.38 38.218.121.174.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 26.da.79ae.static.theplanet.com. and finally www.theplanet.com leads to www.softlayer.com. The same IP address that has libreofficeforum.org (174.121.218.38) hosts about 430 websites. See http://whois.domaintools.com/174.121.218.38 Examples of websites are http://www.1dayacuvuemoistreviews.com/ http://www.1luv2ya.com/ I think the issue is that for a free and open-source project, it's easy to get fast Internet access and a good server, donated by some University or a company. A group of volunteers can maintain it in the beginning. Therefore, there is no need to go into issues such as paying from your own money for a server and supplementing it with ads. Simos Have you tried? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Italo Vignoli wrote: On 4/26/11 8:57 PM, Andy Brown wrote: I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is going to be a lot of support lost. I am a member of the steering committee, but here I am speaking for myself. I personally prefer mailing lists, but I know that there are people who prefer forums and people who prefer newsgroups, and I have learned to respect both opinions. I don't think that the SC has expressed a formal opinion about forums, although members of the SC have been involved in several discussions about this topic, and have expressed their personal opinion. For the time being, and I anticipate that this situation will continue for a few months (let's say until the end of 2011), the SC is focused on other issues. It's a pure question of bandwidth. Looking at the OOo project, forums have been launched after several years. We need time to decide on every single problem. Well someone told David to remove it. But then with all the new TDF members maybe one of them told him to remove it. Also I did not say anything about the SC. I am still trying to figure out the membership thing any way. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Jaime R. Garza wrote: David, I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is going to be a lot of support lost. I really find all this discussion ridiculous, it should not be allowed to make advertising for the main competitor, it's a matter of common sense!!! Who would make advertising for their main competitor, my God!!! Please, I don't mean to be rude, but who ever thinks that the wrong direction, then I don't think he or she lives in the real world. And I humbly invite you to search for something else. Just the type of thing that is driving people way from LibreOffice/TDF. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Question about proposing the creation of a new format
>I think this is a very interesting issue. We are moving from the dominant >technologies that were designed to put information on paper to the dominant >need of presenting information on screens. With the revolution in digital >readers this is only going to increase and then what relevance has document >formats that are primarily designed to target hard copy output? If odf does >not adapt it will become obsolete. > Seems to suggest that LO should become some sort of html (or any other electronic format) editor? >I am constantly irritated by having to download pdfs, .docs and so on when >all I want to do is view the information without cluttering up my download May I suggest to use the 'load url' bar to read documents directly on the web? As for pdf documents, evince can open directly from the url when activated via the command terminal -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
On 4/26/11 8:57 PM, Andy Brown wrote: I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is going to be a lot of support lost. I am a member of the steering committee, but here I am speaking for myself. I personally prefer mailing lists, but I know that there are people who prefer forums and people who prefer newsgroups, and I have learned to respect both opinions. I don't think that the SC has expressed a formal opinion about forums, although members of the SC have been involved in several discussions about this topic, and have expressed their personal opinion. For the time being, and I anticipate that this situation will continue for a few months (let's say until the end of 2011), the SC is focused on other issues. It's a pure question of bandwidth. Looking at the OOo project, forums have been launched after several years. We need time to decide on every single problem. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
> > >> David, > > I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following > directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is > going to be a lot of support lost. > > I really find all this discussion ridiculous, it should not be allowed to make advertising for the main competitor, it's a matter of common sense!!! Who would make advertising for their main competitor, my God!!! Please, I don't mean to be rude, but who ever thinks that the wrong direction, then I don't think he or she lives in the real world. And I humbly invite you to search for something else. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I'd just like to set a few > things straight. > > ... > 2. Ads. Yes, we have them. They are only Adsense text ads, I do not and > will never permit image ads or 3rd party sponsor ads. I think this is a > responsible and simple method of keeping the forum running if it gets hit > with more traffic. Good hosting is not cheap. I realize that some users > hate ads with a passion. Most of those users are already running an ad > blocker, so they will never see the ads anyway. And additionally, any > registered user can disable the ads with two checkboxes in his user > preferences. > You probably use a dedicated host from http://www.softlayer.com/dedicated/(at least $119 per month) because $ host www.libreofficeforum.org libreofficeforum.org has address 174.121.218.38 and $ host 174.121.218.38 38.218.121.174.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 26.da.79ae.static.theplanet.com. and finally www.theplanet.com leads to www.softlayer.com. The same IP address that has libreofficeforum.org (174.121.218.38) hosts about 430 websites. See http://whois.domaintools.com/174.121.218.38 Examples of websites are http://www.1dayacuvuemoistreviews.com/ http://www.1luv2ya.com/ I think the issue is that for a free and open-source project, it's easy to get fast Internet access and a good server, donated by some University or a company. A group of volunteers can maintain it in the beginning. Therefore, there is no need to go into issues such as paying from your own money for a server and supplementing it with ads. Simos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Mandriva repository
Is any possibility to add repository for Mandriva URPMI to have possibility to update LibreOffice automaticaly (from cron for example)? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Mandriva-repository-tp2866891p2866891.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
David Nelson wrote: Hi Sam, I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by Charles Schulz. Sorry about that. Personally, I have no issues with your site. I think Drew is willing to debate the matter. Maybe a solution could be found? Would removing the advertising be a possibility? Anyway, just to keep you informed... David Nelson David, I feel that this is wrong, not on your part as you are only following directions. If this is the stand that the TDF wishes to take then there is going to be a lot of support lost. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] proofreading the German bylaws
Hi, Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-04-26 12.34: IMHO, it needs updating, with the date moving forward to be more relevant. hm... why would this need adaption? I guess the paragraph was meant to support those people who joined us in the early days, i.e. three months after we started TDF and LibreOffice. Anyone recalls when the bylaws had been finalized in their current state? How much time between this date and December 31st (as mentioned in the bylaws) did people have? If we approved the bylaws shortly before or even after December 31st, it makes sense to adapt that date, but if not, I'm a bit undetermined, if we need it at all... the rationale behind it was that people joining TDF early would have a "benefit", IMHO. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
On 4/26/11 6:10 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Including ads for companies selling Microsoft Office. I find that offensive. I think exactly the opposite. Given the way the ads are placed, the fact that there are ads of companies selling MS Office qualifies the visitors of the web site as a proper target for office suites. I think we have already discussed about the fact that we are not against Microsoft, although we don't like the way that the company behaves and makes business. We are not fighting a war against Microsoft. We respect them, although we understand that the relationship with them is asymmetrical, as they want to get us out of the market. I would also like to express my personal view about advertising, which is not negative at all. I have even read somewhere (I don't remember if it was in this thread) that advertising is against the principles of free software. I personally don't like forums, because I prefer to concentrate my interactions via email, but I do respect the people who like forums, and I don't think that Google Text Ads are a problem (even if they advertise MS Office, as I think that I can judge by myself and I wouldn't want to limit the freedom of other people banning advertising because there might be MS Office ads). -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Hi Sam, I regretfully have to inform you that I had to remove the link to the LibreOfficeForum.org site at the request of Drew Jensen seconded by Charles Schulz. Sorry about that. Personally, I have no issues with your site. I think Drew is willing to debate the matter. Maybe a solution could be found? Would removing the advertising be a possibility? Anyway, just to keep you informed... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
On 2011/04/25 8:50 AM sb73...@libreofficeforum.org wrote: 2. Ads. Yes, we have them. Including ads for companies selling Microsoft Office. I find that offensive. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Hi, :-) On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 13:38, wrote: > I am the creator of LibreOfficeForum.org. I am going to post link to varous LibreOffice / OpenOffice.org support forums on the LibreOffice website's Getting Help page, and LibreOfficeForum.org will be listed. Thank you for hosting a support channel on behalf of the community. :-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
