Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-25 Thread Drew Jensen
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 22:18 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:
 On 05/23/2011 10:06 PM, drew wrote:
 
  My email to you was an inquiry about budgets for general show material.
  
snip

  In any case, we should have some 
 budget for giveaways and other small marketing expenses.
 

Hi,

Yes, it would help to have some guidance, perhaps if only towards
general expectations for planning purposes. To re-cap there are three
upcoming events that I am reasonably certain about our ability to have a
presence - OSCON [1] (not sure on size, large) in July, a linux fest[2]
( with ~1,000 ppl) in 2 weeks and another Linux fest[3] in September ( 
1,000 ppl). Of those three I would say that all other things being equal
I would recommend more TDF expenditure emphasis on OSCON, over the two
linux fests. Of course that is contingent on what exactly we could put
together for staffing at OSCON.

Thanks and best wishes,

Drew

[1] http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011
[2] http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/home
[3] http://ohiolinux.org/


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient?

2011-05-25 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *,

e-letter schrieb:

A link would not show the behaviour;

Thanks for your estimation. My intention was rather to have easy access
to information of that list and to an example where Your answer really
worked.

As I spend enough time investigating Your problem
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.test
I hoped to save the time of searching myself..

would be better to subscribe to gnuplot mailing list digest mode.

A link where to do so was really great - allthough not helpful *for me*
as I don't have gmail running and I don't intend to do so.

When the 'reply' function is activated in gmail web-mail interface, the
mail message format is retained.

As told, I would like to see a succesful example of an answer sent by
You if You make possible to provide a link.

By the way:
As workaround to send proper answers is ordering the desired mail
sending a mail to:
discuss+ge...@documentfoundation.org where N is the number of that
mail provided with the digest.

Additionally You're hereby invited to subscribe to 
test+subscribe-dig...@documentfoundation.org
where we try to solve Your problem. We need your experience with digest
handling and your testing skills. ;o))


Gruß/regards
-- 
Friedrich
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[tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-25 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2011 11:43 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2011/5/25 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 Is there one?

 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
 doesn't show or refer to one.

 The german wiki page
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de has some
 additions and links for that. Maybe somebody should translate that to
 the english page.
 
 
 Volker
 
 

I suppose. But that page is on
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/ so even if
translated and cleaned up wouldn't suffice.

The place for such a FAQ should be on
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ and apply to all
locales. Suggestions:
http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
[Technical guidelines - in particular]
http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html

And then once finalised/finalized should be posted in each mail list on
a monthly basis so that list users are aware of
etiquette/action/cooperation on the lists. This used to be common
practice for mail lists in the past  helped resolve unnecessary posts
regarding posting styles[1], etc.

It's pretty hard to condem someone for top-posting, going way of topic,
discussing religion, et al if there isn't a FAQ or some form of common
guideline for user behaviour in the mail lists. Nor can you chastise
someone for posting in the developer list regarding a valid user concern
simply because you are not a developer etc. Example:
  If the developer list doesn't want common users posting what are
considered valid user concerns (i.e., broken pre-release packages,
failure to provide the same in packages that affect installed stable
packages) without being insulted and chastised, then items like this
should be included up front on the
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ page as well.

That said, here is a question; how can a common user be expected to
possibly find http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/ to
begin with? I see no link on
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ do you?




[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2011-05-26 15:15, NoOp wrote:
 On 05/24/2011 11:43 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
   
 Hi,

 2011/5/25 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 
 Is there one?

 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
 doesn't show or refer to one.

   
 The german wiki page
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de has some
 additions and links for that. Maybe somebody should translate that to
 the english page.


 Volker


 
 I suppose. But that page is on
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/ so even if
 translated and cleaned up wouldn't suffice.

 The place for such a FAQ should be on
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ and apply to all
 locales. Suggestions:
 http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html
 http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
 [Technical guidelines - in particular]
 http://www.openoffice.org/ml_guidelines.html

 And then once finalised/finalized should be posted in each mail list on
 a monthly basis so that list users are aware of
 etiquette/action/cooperation on the lists. This used to be common
 practice for mail lists in the past  helped resolve unnecessary posts
 regarding posting styles[1], etc.

 It's pretty hard to condem someone for top-posting, going way of topic,
 discussing religion, et al if there isn't a FAQ or some form of common
 guideline for user behaviour in the mail lists. Nor can you chastise
 someone for posting in the developer list regarding a valid user concern
 simply because you are not a developer etc. Example:
   If the developer list doesn't want common users posting what are
 considered valid user concerns (i.e., broken pre-release packages,
 failure to provide the same in packages that affect installed stable
 packages) without being insulted and chastised, then items like this
 should be included up front on the
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ page as well.

 That said, here is a question; how can a common user be expected to
 possibly find http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/ to
 begin with? I see no link on
 http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ do you?




 [1]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style
   
A regular (monthly) post of the faq would be good.  In regards
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/
it may not be linked anywhere because it seems empty There is currently
no text in this page.
steve

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-25 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:35 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:
   
 A regular (monthly) post of the faq would be good.  In regards
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/
 it may not be linked anywhere because it seems empty There is currently
 no text in this page.
 steve
 

Remove the final / and the link works.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2011-05-26 16:11, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 15:35 +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote:
   
   
 A regular (monthly) post of the faq would be good.  In regards
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/
 it may not be linked anywhere because it seems empty There is currently
 no text in this page.
 steve

 
 Remove the final / and the link works.
   

Thanks, just clicked the link and didn't look.

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