Re: [tdf-discuss] Jomar's thoughts about Apache OpenOffice

2011-07-12 Thread Clovis Tristão
+1
Regards, Clóvis.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Jomar Silva  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I noticed that I just sent an e-mail to this list talking about Apache
> OpenOffice, and I believe that some of you may find that a 'strange
> topic' on a TDF mail list.
>
> I would like to clarify that I'm working with both projects because I
> believe that they will become 'one' sometime in the future. I also
> believe that we have the chance to do the work at both projects with
> the maximum amount of collaboration as possible, and to illustrate my
> thoughts about that, I've wrote a blog post about the subject:
>
> http://homembit.com/2011/06/what-i-think-about-apache-openofficeorg-an-invitation-to-the-collaborative-work.html
>
> As it's written at the Brazilian government document that I signed
> too, we care a lot to have a FLOSS Office Suite that is useful
> Brazilian users, seeing that it is a key software to any FLOSS
> migration strategy, so I'll do my best to avoid us (Apache and TDF)
> doing things twice and wasting our scarce resources with useless
> things.
>
> Co-opetition is the key here, and I believe that we have market for
> both products right now and in a near future. We also have a common
> and hard-to-fight competitor on this race, and he is right now miles
> ahead from both of us !
>
> Best,
>
> Jomar
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Andy Brown
Luis E Vásquez r wrote:
> Medellín,july 12  2011
> 
> Why not to use :
> 
> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List
> 

Have you looked at the above link?  Check where the links lead to.

> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Luis E. Vásquez R.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello,

Simon and Jomar, feel free to pass the invite along to the AOOo lists unless
somebody else objects?

best
Charles.

2011/7/12 drew 

> On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 20:57 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > Hello Jomar,
> >
> >
> > With the exception of the quite good points highlighted by Drew (some
> > extensions might break or might not work in AOOo) , I think AOOo is free
> to
> > point to our own extensions and templates website. Do know, however, that
> > although we accept FOSS licences only (including Apache!) we do already
> have
> > a specific branding of the site and that the extensions are tested and
> > supposed to work for LibreOffice first. I would not expect too much
> > compatibility problems for most of the extensions, but the issues will
> rise
> > as the time will pass.
> >
> > so a non-binding +1 to welcome AOOo using our extensions and templates
> > website.
>
> Just to clarify my view here:
>
> TDF certainly made use of the OO.o extension service to date - which is
> to say our users have.
>
> I am in favor of our communities working together, as equals.
>
> Right now populating the new LibO extension site with those current
> extensions from the OO.o site that comply with our license model helps
> everyone it would seem - mostly users as they get a stable service in
> likely the shortest possible time.
>
> So - as an interim solution I would say +1.
>
> Thanks,
>
> //drew
>
> >
> > best,
> > Charles.
> >
> > 2011/7/12 drew 
> >
> > > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 15:08 -0300, Jomar Silva wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> > > > regarding the place to host extensions
> > > > (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
> > > >
> > > > It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> > > > problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> > > > the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> > > > use as a shared extensions repository.
> > >
> > > Hi Jomar,
> > >
> > > hmmm - that is assuming that the two separate projects will maintain
> > > enough common code base that shared extensions are possible - that is a
> > > requirement that I for one would not want to see enforced. The fact
> that
> > > we can share extensions today is, IMO, a remnant of a past history and
> > > should not dictate decisions for going forward - so I would not be in
> > > favor our hosting Apache OpenOffice.org branded extensions on a
> > > TDF/LibreOffice service, nor would I be in favor or seeing
> > > TDF/Libreoffice continue to point back to Apache OpenOffice.org for any
> > > future end user services.
> > >
> > > One related item here - Templates I think are a totally different
> > > consideration. I can see the ability to share templates between all of
> > > the ODF capable applications as a reasonable goal, a very desirable
> > > goal.
> > >
> > > It is extensions that I am concerned with here - to put it simply, I do
> > > not consider LibreOffice a downstream product of OpenOffice.org code
> any
> > > longer as with this next release if I understand correctly there will
> be
> > > no merge of OO.o code, nor can I see how Apache OpenOffice can ever be
> a
> > > down stream of LibreOffice.
> > >
> > > Nor am not saying that the two separate projects must diverge for
> > > divergence sake, only that having a shared service would add resistance
> > > to diverging and that is something that I would strongly disagree with
> -
> > > our options are open as of today and I would prefer to see them stay
> > > that way.
> > >
> > > I understand that many people still hope that OO.o and LibreOffice will
> > > somehow blend back into a single project - I can only say that I am not
> > > one of those people.
> > >
> > > This idea that there is some finite set of resources is one I take
> > > exception with. In my best judgment the resources assembled here under
> > > TDF/LibreOffice are sufficient to take this project and product
> > > forward.
> > >
> > > I wish the folks forming up under Apache to resurrect the
> OpenOffice.org
> > > project all the best of luck on the project they have decided to
> > > undertake, but I truly believe that their actions should bear very
> > > little weight with the people working here when it comes to
> > > planing/building out our offerings to end users.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Drew Jensen
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > We could also do the same to host templates.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts about that ?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jomar
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 20:57 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Jomar,
> 
> 
> With the exception of the quite good points highlighted by Drew (some
> extensions might break or might not work in AOOo) , I think AOOo is free to
> point to our own extensions and templates website. Do know, however, that
> although we accept FOSS licences only (including Apache!) we do already have
> a specific branding of the site and that the extensions are tested and
> supposed to work for LibreOffice first. I would not expect too much
> compatibility problems for most of the extensions, but the issues will rise
> as the time will pass.
> 
> so a non-binding +1 to welcome AOOo using our extensions and templates
> website.

Just to clarify my view here:

TDF certainly made use of the OO.o extension service to date - which is
to say our users have. 

I am in favor of our communities working together, as equals.

Right now populating the new LibO extension site with those current
extensions from the OO.o site that comply with our license model helps
everyone it would seem - mostly users as they get a stable service in
likely the shortest possible time.

So - as an interim solution I would say +1.

Thanks,

//drew 

> 
> best,
> Charles.
> 
> 2011/7/12 drew 
> 
> > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 15:08 -0300, Jomar Silva wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> > > regarding the place to host extensions
> > > (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
> > >
> > > It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> > > problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> > > the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> > > use as a shared extensions repository.
> >
> > Hi Jomar,
> >
> > hmmm - that is assuming that the two separate projects will maintain
> > enough common code base that shared extensions are possible - that is a
> > requirement that I for one would not want to see enforced. The fact that
> > we can share extensions today is, IMO, a remnant of a past history and
> > should not dictate decisions for going forward - so I would not be in
> > favor our hosting Apache OpenOffice.org branded extensions on a
> > TDF/LibreOffice service, nor would I be in favor or seeing
> > TDF/Libreoffice continue to point back to Apache OpenOffice.org for any
> > future end user services.
> >
> > One related item here - Templates I think are a totally different
> > consideration. I can see the ability to share templates between all of
> > the ODF capable applications as a reasonable goal, a very desirable
> > goal.
> >
> > It is extensions that I am concerned with here - to put it simply, I do
> > not consider LibreOffice a downstream product of OpenOffice.org code any
> > longer as with this next release if I understand correctly there will be
> > no merge of OO.o code, nor can I see how Apache OpenOffice can ever be a
> > down stream of LibreOffice.
> >
> > Nor am not saying that the two separate projects must diverge for
> > divergence sake, only that having a shared service would add resistance
> > to diverging and that is something that I would strongly disagree with -
> > our options are open as of today and I would prefer to see them stay
> > that way.
> >
> > I understand that many people still hope that OO.o and LibreOffice will
> > somehow blend back into a single project - I can only say that I am not
> > one of those people.
> >
> > This idea that there is some finite set of resources is one I take
> > exception with. In my best judgment the resources assembled here under
> > TDF/LibreOffice are sufficient to take this project and product
> > forward.
> >
> > I wish the folks forming up under Apache to resurrect the OpenOffice.org
> > project all the best of luck on the project they have decided to
> > undertake, but I truly believe that their actions should bear very
> > little weight with the people working here when it comes to
> > planing/building out our offerings to end users.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Drew Jensen
> >
> >
> > >
> > > We could also do the same to host templates.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts about that ?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jomar
> >
> 



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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jomar,


With the exception of the quite good points highlighted by Drew (some
extensions might break or might not work in AOOo) , I think AOOo is free to
point to our own extensions and templates website. Do know, however, that
although we accept FOSS licences only (including Apache!) we do already have
a specific branding of the site and that the extensions are tested and
supposed to work for LibreOffice first. I would not expect too much
compatibility problems for most of the extensions, but the issues will rise
as the time will pass.

so a non-binding +1 to welcome AOOo using our extensions and templates
website.

best,
Charles.

2011/7/12 drew 

> On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 15:08 -0300, Jomar Silva wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> > regarding the place to host extensions
> > (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
> >
> > It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> > problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> > the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> > use as a shared extensions repository.
>
> Hi Jomar,
>
> hmmm - that is assuming that the two separate projects will maintain
> enough common code base that shared extensions are possible - that is a
> requirement that I for one would not want to see enforced. The fact that
> we can share extensions today is, IMO, a remnant of a past history and
> should not dictate decisions for going forward - so I would not be in
> favor our hosting Apache OpenOffice.org branded extensions on a
> TDF/LibreOffice service, nor would I be in favor or seeing
> TDF/Libreoffice continue to point back to Apache OpenOffice.org for any
> future end user services.
>
> One related item here - Templates I think are a totally different
> consideration. I can see the ability to share templates between all of
> the ODF capable applications as a reasonable goal, a very desirable
> goal.
>
> It is extensions that I am concerned with here - to put it simply, I do
> not consider LibreOffice a downstream product of OpenOffice.org code any
> longer as with this next release if I understand correctly there will be
> no merge of OO.o code, nor can I see how Apache OpenOffice can ever be a
> down stream of LibreOffice.
>
> Nor am not saying that the two separate projects must diverge for
> divergence sake, only that having a shared service would add resistance
> to diverging and that is something that I would strongly disagree with -
> our options are open as of today and I would prefer to see them stay
> that way.
>
> I understand that many people still hope that OO.o and LibreOffice will
> somehow blend back into a single project - I can only say that I am not
> one of those people.
>
> This idea that there is some finite set of resources is one I take
> exception with. In my best judgment the resources assembled here under
> TDF/LibreOffice are sufficient to take this project and product
> forward.
>
> I wish the folks forming up under Apache to resurrect the OpenOffice.org
> project all the best of luck on the project they have decided to
> undertake, but I truly believe that their actions should bear very
> little weight with the people working here when it comes to
> planing/building out our offerings to end users.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Drew Jensen
>
>
> >
> > We could also do the same to host templates.
> >
> > Any thoughts about that ?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jomar
>

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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread drew
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 15:08 -0300, Jomar Silva wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> regarding the place to host extensions
> (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
> 
> It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> use as a shared extensions repository.

Hi Jomar,

hmmm - that is assuming that the two separate projects will maintain
enough common code base that shared extensions are possible - that is a
requirement that I for one would not want to see enforced. The fact that
we can share extensions today is, IMO, a remnant of a past history and
should not dictate decisions for going forward - so I would not be in
favor our hosting Apache OpenOffice.org branded extensions on a
TDF/LibreOffice service, nor would I be in favor or seeing
TDF/Libreoffice continue to point back to Apache OpenOffice.org for any
future end user services.

One related item here - Templates I think are a totally different
consideration. I can see the ability to share templates between all of
the ODF capable applications as a reasonable goal, a very desirable
goal. 

It is extensions that I am concerned with here - to put it simply, I do
not consider LibreOffice a downstream product of OpenOffice.org code any
longer as with this next release if I understand correctly there will be
no merge of OO.o code, nor can I see how Apache OpenOffice can ever be a
down stream of LibreOffice. 

Nor am not saying that the two separate projects must diverge for
divergence sake, only that having a shared service would add resistance
to diverging and that is something that I would strongly disagree with -
our options are open as of today and I would prefer to see them stay
that way.

I understand that many people still hope that OO.o and LibreOffice will
somehow blend back into a single project - I can only say that I am not
one of those people. 

This idea that there is some finite set of resources is one I take
exception with. In my best judgment the resources assembled here under
TDF/LibreOffice are sufficient to take this project and product
forward. 

I wish the folks forming up under Apache to resurrect the OpenOffice.org
project all the best of luck on the project they have decided to
undertake, but I truly believe that their actions should bear very
little weight with the people working here when it comes to
planing/building out our offerings to end users.

Sincerely,

Drew Jensen


> 
> We could also do the same to host templates.
> 
> Any thoughts about that ?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jomar
> 



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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Simon Phipps

On 12 Jul 2011, at 19:08, Jomar Silva wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> regarding the place to host extensions
> (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
> 
> It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> use as a shared extensions repository.
> 
> We could also do the same to host templates.
> 
> Any thoughts about that ?

I gather the LibreOffice extensions & templates service is nearly ready to 
switch on. With approval from the Steering Committee, it's feasible that AOOo 
could redirect the URL that OO.o currently uses and make it point at this new 
service for as long as they need to, in order to maintain continuity for users. 

Long-term, it's important to recognise that the LibreOffice service will only 
host extensions under open source licenses - nothing to stop someone else 
creating a downstream superset though.

S.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Luis E Vásquez r
Medellín,july 12  2011

Why not to use :

http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List


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2011/7/12 Jomar Silva 

> Hi,
>
> There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
> regarding the place to host extensions
> (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).
>
> It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
> problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
> the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
> use as a shared extensions repository.
>
> We could also do the same to host templates.
>
> Any thoughts about that ?
>
> Best,
>
> Jomar
>
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[tdf-discuss] Jomar's thoughts about Apache OpenOffice

2011-07-12 Thread Jomar Silva
Hi,

I noticed that I just sent an e-mail to this list talking about Apache
OpenOffice, and I believe that some of you may find that a 'strange
topic' on a TDF mail list.

I would like to clarify that I'm working with both projects because I
believe that they will become 'one' sometime in the future. I also
believe that we have the chance to do the work at both projects with
the maximum amount of collaboration as possible, and to illustrate my
thoughts about that, I've wrote a blog post about the subject:
http://homembit.com/2011/06/what-i-think-about-apache-openofficeorg-an-invitation-to-the-collaborative-work.html

As it's written at the Brazilian government document that I signed
too, we care a lot to have a FLOSS Office Suite that is useful
Brazilian users, seeing that it is a key software to any FLOSS
migration strategy, so I'll do my best to avoid us (Apache and TDF)
doing things twice and wasting our scarce resources with useless
things.

Co-opetition is the key here, and I believe that we have market for
both products right now and in a near future. We also have a common
and hard-to-fight competitor on this race, and he is right now miles
ahead from both of us !

Best,

Jomar

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[tdf-discuss] OOo / LO Extensions

2011-07-12 Thread Jomar Silva
Hi,

There is some discussion going on at the Apache OOo mail list
regarding the place to host extensions
(http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/).

It seems that the current hosting of extensions is facing some
problems, and it will be great if we find a new (and common) home for
the extensions, in a way that both Apache OOo and LibreOffice could
use as a shared extensions repository.

We could also do the same to host templates.

Any thoughts about that ?

Best,

Jomar

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2011-07-12 11:09, Jomar Silva a écrit :

Hi everyone,

I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
90's, the good'n'old Star Office.

I'm a member of the OASIS ODF TC since 2008, and also Brazilian expert
at JTC1 / SC34 / WG6 (the group that handles ODF inside ISO). Also
since 2007 I'm ahead of the ODF Alliance Latin America, and I've been
talking (and writing) about ODF since them. I had the opportunity to
talk about ODF to an audience bigger than 10.000 people in more than 5
countries the past years, and I really believe that a FLOSS is the key
for the ODF standard adoption worldwide.

My blog (www.homembit.com) has some good information about ODF and
OpenStandards, and also the full history about OpenXML at ISO (yes, I
was 'inside the room' at the BRM in Geneva).

I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.

I developed C/C++ software during almost 10 years, but my programming
skills are a little bit rusted right now (and I want to put that rust
out soon). I can also help you with the translations and localization
efforts to Brazilian Portuguese, with QA and marketing.

I'm also member of the Apache OpenOffice project.

Everything I'll write here are my personal opinions only and do not
represent the opinions or positions from companies or organizations
that I may be working with.

Cheers from Brazil,

Jomar



Hello Jomar

Great to have you here! Nice also to have another ODF expert on our lists.

Cheers

Marc


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Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

2011-07-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
At some point i would like to see a mix of screen-shots done using different 
themes and different OSes but done in a planned way rather than just looking 
accidental and unprofessional.  It could look very artistically pleasing if 
done 
with some consideration or it could just look messy if done without any 
thought.  At the moment there are a few people that focus on the wording and 
just mark where they want screen-shots updated.  Some people have focused on 
screen-shots to the point of learning an unfamiliar OS although he has moved to 
doing both screen-shots and being a word-smith.
Regards from
Tom :)




From: David Nelson 
To: steering-disc...@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Tue, 12 July, 2011 15:59:20
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team

Hi Italo, *,

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Italo Vignoli  wrote:
> In my opinion, documentation screenshots can be entirely Linux (unless there
> is a specific feature on a different OS).

My feeling about this (and I *believe* that Jean Weber agrees) is that
documentation contributors should have the option of contributing
screenshots indifferently from Mac, Linux or Windows - although it
would probably be preferable to maintain consistency within a given
guide.

Firstly, this makes it clear that LibreOffice is mult-platform and
consistent across platforms.

Secondly, we want to keep the barrier for new contributors as low as
possible, and not *oblige* them to install new software in order to
work in documentation. This way, hopefully, we can get a lot more
people involved.

These are the key reasons why I'm asking for the SC to take a
position, because we've been meeting quite a bit of opposition from a
relatively small number of people for quite some time now (who want
screenshots taken under Linux only), and it would be nice to get the
issue cleared up one way or another.

I could point out that I'm a daily Linux user myself, but I don't
think we should be dogmatic about it.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Jomar,

as you can see, you're at home with us.

Welcome.

David Emmerich Jourdain
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2011/7/12 Olivier Hallot 

> Hello Jomar
>
> Great to see you here.
>
> I am eager to start the letter of intent we both signed two weeks ago
> (which
> Simon referenced).
>
> Welcome
>
> Kind regards
>
> Olivier
>
> 2011/7/12 Simon Phipps 
>
> >
> > On 12 Jul 2011, at 16:09, Jomar Silva wrote:
> > > I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
> > > 90's, the good'n'old Star Office.
> > :
> > > I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.
> >
> > Fantastic to see you here Jomar, welcome! And congratulations on the
> > agreement with the Brazilian government to contribute[1] to LO.
> >
> > S.
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> http://www.softwarelivre.gov.br/news/cisl-and-communities-strengthen-floss-office-suites
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hello Jomar

Great to see you here.

I am eager to start the letter of intent we both signed two weeks ago (which
Simon referenced).

Welcome

Kind regards

Olivier

2011/7/12 Simon Phipps 

>
> On 12 Jul 2011, at 16:09, Jomar Silva wrote:
> > I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
> > 90's, the good'n'old Star Office.
> :
> > I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.
>
> Fantastic to see you here Jomar, welcome! And congratulations on the
> agreement with the Brazilian government to contribute[1] to LO.
>
> S.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.softwarelivre.gov.br/news/cisl-and-communities-strengthen-floss-office-suites
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jomar,

Le Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:09:27 -0300,
Jomar Silva  a écrit :

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
> 90's, the good'n'old Star Office.
> 
> I'm a member of the OASIS ODF TC since 2008, and also Brazilian expert
> at JTC1 / SC34 / WG6 (the group that handles ODF inside ISO). Also
> since 2007 I'm ahead of the ODF Alliance Latin America, and I've been
> talking (and writing) about ODF since them. I had the opportunity to
> talk about ODF to an audience bigger than 10.000 people in more than 5
> countries the past years, and I really believe that a FLOSS is the key
> for the ODF standard adoption worldwide.
> 
> My blog (www.homembit.com) has some good information about ODF and
> OpenStandards, and also the full history about OpenXML at ISO (yes, I
> was 'inside the room' at the BRM in Geneva).
> 
> I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.
> 
> I developed C/C++ software during almost 10 years, but my programming
> skills are a little bit rusted right now (and I want to put that rust
> out soon). I can also help you with the translations and localization
> efforts to Brazilian Portuguese, with QA and marketing.
> 
> I'm also member of the Apache OpenOffice project.
> 
> Everything I'll write here are my personal opinions only and do not
> represent the opinions or positions from companies or organizations
> that I may be working with.
> 
> Cheers from Brazil,
> 
> Jomar
> 

Welcome to the LibreOffice project! :)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread Simon Phipps

On 12 Jul 2011, at 16:09, Jomar Silva wrote:
> I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
> 90's, the good'n'old Star Office.
:
> I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.

Fantastic to see you here Jomar, welcome! And congratulations on the agreement 
with the Brazilian government to contribute[1] to LO.

S.


[1] 
http://www.softwarelivre.gov.br/news/cisl-and-communities-strengthen-floss-office-suites
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[tdf-discuss] Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread Jomar Silva
Hi everyone,

I'm Jomar Silva from Brazil and I'm a OOo codebase user since the
90's, the good'n'old Star Office.

I'm a member of the OASIS ODF TC since 2008, and also Brazilian expert
at JTC1 / SC34 / WG6 (the group that handles ODF inside ISO). Also
since 2007 I'm ahead of the ODF Alliance Latin America, and I've been
talking (and writing) about ODF since them. I had the opportunity to
talk about ODF to an audience bigger than 10.000 people in more than 5
countries the past years, and I really believe that a FLOSS is the key
for the ODF standard adoption worldwide.

My blog (www.homembit.com) has some good information about ODF and
OpenStandards, and also the full history about OpenXML at ISO (yes, I
was 'inside the room' at the BRM in Geneva).

I decided to join the TDF and work with you to build LibreOffice.

I developed C/C++ software during almost 10 years, but my programming
skills are a little bit rusted right now (and I want to put that rust
out soon). I can also help you with the translations and localization
efforts to Brazilian Portuguese, with QA and marketing.

I'm also member of the Apache OpenOffice project.

Everything I'll write here are my personal opinions only and do not
represent the opinions or positions from companies or organizations
that I may be working with.

Cheers from Brazil,

Jomar

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[tdf-discuss] Status of establishing The Document Foundation

2011-07-12 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello,

for your information, there is a new blog post on the current legal
process of The Document Foundation available at


http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/07/12/status-of-establishing-the-foundation/

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Re: [tdf-discuss] TDF fundraising suggestion - Bitcoin

2011-07-12 Thread Marc-André Laverdière
I think that the EFF is a bit too cautious about the whole thing and I 
wouldn't follow suit.


I don't see any problem getting bitcoin donations. And TDF can keep hold 
of them until the rate is good and exchange it in euros.


Marc-André Laverdière
Software Security Scientist
Innovation Labs, Tata Consultancy Services
Hyderabad, India

On 07/11/2011 10:02 PM, Denis Kasak wrote:

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:00, Simos Xenitellis
  wrote:
[snip]


I would say that it is up to the users (members of the
discuss@documentfoundation.org) to express
their interest in mining for Bitcoins using their computer power, and
donating to the TDF.
If there is some initial interest to go into this process and donate
Bitcoins to the TDF,
then it would make sense to set up something to receive those Bitcoins.


I would just like to add that there is a large body of Bitcoin users
who don't mine (instead acquiring their Bitcoins through exchanging)
and they are also potential donors.



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