[tdf-discuss] Re: Support for Versions, Full-Screen, and Resume in OS X Lion
Karl Behler karl.behler at ipp.mpg.de writes: What I know from other platforms (Solaris/Linux) is that autosave saves into a hidden file in the background not destroying your last saved document. You are confusing autosave as implemented in random applications (including OOo and LO) for a long time, and a separate and different feature with the same name in OS X Lion (and later), implemented mainly in the system library level . Please do not abandon the autosave and recovery feature from soffice. Don't be scared and confused. If it's missing on some platforms it is not. What is being discussed in this thread is perhaps making use of *another* thing, a feature of the operating system, on OS X Lion. --tml -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On Thursday 08 Sep 2011 01:16:27 NoOp wrote: For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please consider bottom posting with interspersed replies. [trimmed excellent discussion of the merits of trimming and interspersing replies] NoOp, I applaud your attempt to get some consistency of posting in the LO lists, but I fear you're flogging a dead horse. This is one of those topics that will never go away, and I have seen it discussed ad nauseam | infinitum on many different lists since I starting using Usenet over ten years ago. Nevertheless, I wish you luck. :) Bob -- Registered Linux User #463880 FSFE Member #1300 GPG-FP: A6C1 457C 6DBA B13E 5524 F703 D12A FB79 926B 994E openSUSE 11.4 64-bit, Kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5-desktop, KDE 4.6.5 Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 9600GT -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] wiki edit: suggesting further edit, requesting approval
I have just edited the wiki page How to build LibreOffice http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Development% 2FNative_Buildaction=historysubmitdiff=36230oldid=36124 to say that ccache is enabled by default if found. The edit which removed that information (because it was not true at the time) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=Development% 2FNative_Buildaction=historysubmitdiff=32426oldid=32398 also removed instructions about the Mac. As I know nothing about the Mac, I have said nothing about it. Perhaps somebody with the appropriate knowlege would care to think about whether the instructions should go back into the page? This is my first edit to the LibreOffice wiki. Should I generally expect missteps to be noticed quickly? Or should I tell people (here?) when I have done something? Thanks, Terry. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most people will miss it. Expecting someone to follow a link and then follow another link seems a wee bit unlikely. Bottom posting is great when a message is not read in context of the other messages. When I read threaded messages, it is annoying to wade through the message history before I arrive at the content of interest. I might prefer, therefore, that people be prodded into seriously shortening content from all previous posters to only contain the portions relevant to their reply. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
Yeah! A man without unnecessary limitations. I believe cropping is a solution to the problem. I understand, but dislike being forced to read the whole thread. There is an argument for reading the whole thing but I believe that it does not need to be dogma. regards, Richard. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most people will miss it. Expecting someone to follow a link and then follow another link seems a wee bit unlikely. Bottom posting is great when a message is not read in context of the other messages. When I read threaded messages, it is annoying to wade through the message history before I arrive at the content of interest. I might prefer, therefore, that people be prodded into seriously shortening content from all previous posters to only contain the portions relevant to their reply. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odthttp://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+help@**documentfoundation.orgdiscuss%2bh...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**documentfoundation.org/www/**discuss/http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On 9/9/11 3:40 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most people will miss it. Expecting someone to follow a link and then follow another link seems a wee bit unlikely. Bottom posting is great when a message is not read in context of the other messages. When I read threaded messages, it is annoying to wade through the message history before I arrive at the content of interest. I might prefer, therefore, that people be prodded into seriously shortening content from all previous posters to only contain the portions relevant to their reply. If you read the Learn to Quote link on the netiquette page, it gets into why bottom posting and interspersion is or should be the desired way. But like you, I think the LO people need to specify it directly on the page, even better would be for them to actually write their own netiquette page. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 6.0.2 Thunderbird 6.0.2 LibreOffice 3.3.3 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On 09/09/2011 06:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/9/11 3:40 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: The links do not lead me to assume that top posting is expected. If the documentation group desires bottom posting only, the user should be informed when the register. Even then, I expect that most people will miss it. Expecting someone to follow a link and then follow another link seems a wee bit unlikely. Bottom posting is great when a message is not read in context of the other messages. When I read threaded messages, it is annoying to wade through the message history before I arrive at the content of interest. I might prefer, therefore, that people be prodded into seriously shortening content from all previous posters to only contain the portions relevant to their reply. If you read the Learn to Quote link on the netiquette page, it gets into why bottom posting and interspersion is or should be the desired way. Read it many times. I remain unconvinced. Their points assume a single style of reading email. I read my email in a threaded view. Usually, I have already read everything but the latest reply, so, the the top portion of the message is not required (and is therefore ignored). Unfortunately, it is common for there to be so much of the message included, that I need to scroll to view the new text. In other words, it is less efficient and it wastes my time. (to put it into context, I have counted the steps required to get to my car when I leave work by different routes) I receive a very large volume of email. It is usually less than 1000 messages a day, but, still, the time and physical movements to scroll to the bottom of each message is sufficient to stress my wrists and hands. So, if I can skim the new content in less than two seconds, and it takes me longer than that to even get to the new content, well, then I more than double the time I spend skimming email. The bigger concern for me is neither bottom nor top posting, it is trimming the message if you do not top post. With a top post, I can trivially see the response. But like you, I think the LO people need to specify it directly on the page, even better would be for them to actually write their own netiquette page. If they care, they should write it. Yes. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On 09/09/2011 10:01 PM, Richard wrote: Yeah! A man without unnecessary limitations. Sadly, I have many unnecessary limitations :-) -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted