[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice for Academic Work -- College/University
On 05/18/2012 03:14 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: > On Friday, May 18, 2012 11:29:33 AM NoOp wrote: >> On 05/17/2012 03:15 PM, Marc Paré wrote: >> ... >> >> > There is a need for a few templates for academic use; a built-in >> >> ... >> >> You might want to contact/collaborate with Orest Kinasevyc. He wrote >> several templates for APA Style 5th & 6th editions for students: >> > > My own academic days are past, so please excuse a suggestion I'm not willing > to implement myself. > > However, I'm sure that more people would use the bibliographical tools if > the > samples given weren't misleading. Anyone trying to learn from them might > easily give up in despair. > Perhaps you can explain as to how the samples are misleading? Maybe you can provide a sample(s) of your own. Or be helpful and provide links to other APA templates that meet your approval. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 18:07 -0400, Marc Paré wrote: > > It is also a good exercise for the LibreOffice membership who may have > forgotten to "pop by" once in a while on the AskLibO pages; Sigh! I was excited when AskLibo started, only to find that OpenId is required for using it. And the OpenId providers advertised all have impressive terms of use, "impressive" as in "long and daunting". Please forgive my whining. Terry. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: AskLibO blitzes
Hi Christian, Le 2012-05-20 07:36, Christian Lohmaier a écrit : Hi Marc, *, On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Would it be a good idea to organize a monthly call for a AskLibO blitz? I think this would solve some of the outstanding unanswered questions queue. We could all agree on maybe a 2-day spree where we could all check in and answer as many questions as possible. The 2-day spree would also allow for a return to those who answered just in case of a need to update and reply to the answer. While this will bring the # of unanswered questions down, I'd rather have people who ask question also answer other ones :-) People don't make enough use of their votes yet, they are not really familiar with the system yet. What I'd like to avoid is that there will be 10 people answering all the questions... But going though the unanswered ones (preferrably in "oldest first" order) is of course a good idea, but hopefully it will not be the same people doing all the work. ciao Christian I think the whole exercise of doing blitzes would be to reduce the number of outstanding questions as well as reducing the amount of frustration these questions are causing. I'm sure once the numbers of users increase in the use of the AskLibO, the number of outstanding questions will lessen. People will get use to the way it works. It is also a good exercise for the LibreOffice membership who may have forgotten to "pop by" once in a while on the AskLibO pages; I know that I am guilty of this. If we want to market LibreOffice in a positive way, then we should try our best to give users a great experience on our help lines. It is quite a shock for OOo users to leave their cozy forums and have to deal with the busy LibreOffice mailinglists and the AskLibO site. I think we can all appreciate that they are left at a disadvantage having to learn a new way of reporting problems or even asking for help. Most LibreOffice users who use these help lines are really not interested in learning a new system, they just need an answer to their questions re: trouble with LibreOffice. On the other hand, community building would help in creating a LibreOffice community that could possibly make better use of the AskLibO site. This, I believe, we need to foster more on our mailing lists: encouraging membership to LibreOffice. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: FYI, LibreOffice membership
Hi all, Am 20.05.2012 11:15, schrieb Marc Paré: [...] Thanks for your messages, and, I guess the page is still valid as far as the requirements? As long as it gives our "soon-to-be members" an idea on how to qualify for membership as well as what constitutes as "contributor to the project". But, yes, an updated page would be nice! Yes, and a updated page of the members with the new members would be nice too: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ is rather old [1][2]. We won't get new members when we won't signal them that they are welcome. [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/msg07599.html [2] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/msg04426.html -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
I certainly won't qualify for membership in the meritocratic sense. An I am perfectly happy with that. But I definitely would be happy if there were some kind of non-voting paid membership in addition to the anonymous donations to express my appreciation for all those people working hard to get this thing going. Pieter >-Original Message- >From: charles.h.sch...@gmail.com >[mailto:charles.h.sch...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Charles-H.Schulz >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:09 PM >To: discuss@documentfoundation.org >Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership > >Marc, > >Le dimanche 20 mai 2012 à 00:57 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : >> Do you find yourself contributing to LibreOffice's lists and helping >> users in various ways? If you do, or, if you would like to >do this in >> a constructive way, you may qualify to become a member of the TDF >> Community membership family. >> >> You may not know it, but you may in fact already qualify for >membership! >> Visit the TDF webpages to read up on the requirements for TDF >> membership[1] and if you fit the profile, you may want to apply for >> membership; if you do not and would like to work towards membership, >> then, you should still read the requirements so that you are >well informed. >> >> There is a place and a need for all kinds of contributors, >just check >> it out! The best reward of being a member is that you will >be helping >> make LibreOffice a better community project. > >A big +1 to your email. I am under the impression that many >potential members tend to be intimidated by the Membership or >feel it's only for "technical" people. It really is not and we >will be happy if we broaden the membership base. > >Best, > >-- >Charles-H. Schulz >Co-Founder & Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, >10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen >Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > > > > >-- >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and >cannot be deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] AskLibO blitzes
On 20 May 2012 12:36, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Marc, *, > > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > > Would it be a good idea to organize a monthly call for a AskLibO blitz? > > > > I think this would solve some of the outstanding unanswered questions > queue. > > We could all agree on maybe a 2-day spree where we could all check in and > > answer as many questions as possible. The 2-day spree would also allow > for a > > return to those who answered just in case of a need to update and reply > to > > the answer. > > While this will bring the # of unanswered questions down, I'd rather > have people who ask question also answer other ones :-) > > People don't make enough use of their votes yet, they are not really > familiar with the system yet. > > What I'd like to avoid is that there will be 10 people answering all > the questions... > > But going though the unanswered ones (preferrably in "oldest first" > order) is of course a good idea, but hopefully it will not be the same > people doing all the work. > > ciao > Christian > I am an answer contact for LO (and OO) questions in Ubuntu on Launchpad [1]. So I had a look about a week ago at the unanswered question in AskLibO, but I must admit I found it very heavy going. Some of the reasons why are: 1) They need specialist knowledge to give a good answer. 2) Vague questions which need more details to know how to give a good answer. 3) OS details needed for a correct answer (I am using Ubuntu Linux). I will also admit that I do not much like the 'Ask' format. I just want to help people. I'm not interested in Votes, etc. To me it all gets in the way of engaging with the user. Sometimes you need a sequence of questions and answers to get to a good solution. The Ask format isn't really a good way to do that. Forums are better. Tony [1] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+questions -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: FYI, LibreOffice membership
Le dimanche 20 mai 2012 à 05:15 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : > Hi Cor and Florian > > Le 2012-05-20 05:00, Florian Effenberger a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-05-20 10:54: > >> Good post indeed, thanks! > >> I think there will be some active members of the community in the > >> Netherlands/Flanders too, that maybe didn't apply for membership until > >> now. > >> Will pass the message there too. > > > > just stumbled across a small problem - the message links to the old > > bylaws, which are not really valid anymore (IMHO, there is an executive > > director mentioned and so on). The edited ones, reflecting what's in the > > statutes and reality, are in the works - busy times. :-) > > > > Florian > > > > Thanks for your messages, and, I guess the page is still valid as far as > the requirements? As long as it gives our "soon-to-be members" an idea > on how to qualify for membership as well as what constitutes as > "contributor to the project". But, yes, an updated page would be nice! Yes, membership requirements remain the same, but it will be more of an editorial update (basically you have the Foundation's legal statutes together with the community bylaws brought into one document) than any really big change. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder & Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] AskLibO blitzes
Hi Marc, *, On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Marc Paré wrote: > Would it be a good idea to organize a monthly call for a AskLibO blitz? > > I think this would solve some of the outstanding unanswered questions queue. > We could all agree on maybe a 2-day spree where we could all check in and > answer as many questions as possible. The 2-day spree would also allow for a > return to those who answered just in case of a need to update and reply to > the answer. While this will bring the # of unanswered questions down, I'd rather have people who ask question also answer other ones :-) People don't make enough use of their votes yet, they are not really familiar with the system yet. What I'd like to avoid is that there will be 10 people answering all the questions... But going though the unanswered ones (preferrably in "oldest first" order) is of course a good idea, but hopefully it will not be the same people doing all the work. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
Marc, Le dimanche 20 mai 2012 à 00:57 -0400, Marc Paré a écrit : > Do you find yourself contributing to LibreOffice's lists and helping > users in various ways? If you do, or, if you would like to do this in a > constructive way, you may qualify to become a member of the TDF > Community membership family. > > You may not know it, but you may in fact already qualify for membership! > Visit the TDF webpages to read up on the requirements for TDF > membership[1] and if you fit the profile, you may want to apply for > membership; if you do not and would like to work towards membership, > then, you should still read the requirements so that you are well informed. > > There is a place and a need for all kinds of contributors, just check it > out! The best reward of being a member is that you will be helping make > LibreOffice a better community project. A big +1 to your email. I am under the impression that many potential members tend to be intimidated by the Membership or feel it's only for "technical" people. It really is not and we will be happy if we broaden the membership base. Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-Founder & Director, The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: FYI, LibreOffice membership
Hi Cor and Florian Le 2012-05-20 05:00, Florian Effenberger a écrit : Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-05-20 10:54: Good post indeed, thanks! I think there will be some active members of the community in the Netherlands/Flanders too, that maybe didn't apply for membership until now. Will pass the message there too. just stumbled across a small problem - the message links to the old bylaws, which are not really valid anymore (IMHO, there is an executive director mentioned and so on). The edited ones, reflecting what's in the statutes and reality, are in the works - busy times. :-) Florian Thanks for your messages, and, I guess the page is still valid as far as the requirements? As long as it gives our "soon-to-be members" an idea on how to qualify for membership as well as what constitutes as "contributor to the project". But, yes, an updated page would be nice! Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
Hi, Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-05-20 10:54: Good post indeed, thanks! I think there will be some active members of the community in the Netherlands/Flanders too, that maybe didn't apply for membership until now. Will pass the message there too. just stumbled across a small problem - the message links to the old bylaws, which are not really valid anymore (IMHO, there is an executive director mentioned and so on). The edited ones, reflecting what's in the statutes and reality, are in the works - busy times. :-) Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
Florian Effenberger wrote (20-05-12 10:39) Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-05-20 06:57: Do you find yourself contributing to LibreOffice's lists and helping users in various ways? If you do, or, if you would like to do this in a constructive way, you may qualify to become a member of the TDF Community membership family. thanks for posting - will spread your mail on the social networks! Good post indeed, thanks! I think there will be some active members of the community in the Netherlands/Flanders too, that maybe didn't apply for membership until now. Will pass the message there too. -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] AskLibO blitzes
Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-05-20 06:39: Would it be a good idea to organize a monthly call for a AskLibO blitz? I think that's a brilliant idea! Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] FYI, LibreOffice membership
Hi, Marc Paré wrote on 2012-05-20 06:57: Do you find yourself contributing to LibreOffice's lists and helping users in various ways? If you do, or, if you would like to do this in a constructive way, you may qualify to become a member of the TDF Community membership family. thanks for posting - will spread your mail on the social networks! Florian -- Florian Effenberger, Chairman of the Board Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
