Re: [board-discuss] budget for business cards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 Em 12-02-2013 08:32, Florian Effenberger escreveu: Hello, unfortunately, this got a bit lost before FOSDEM and the 4.0 release, so I'd like to call for a vote on it now. Italo Vignoli has kindly produced business cards for the whole board, to hand out during events and other official occasions. The total costs for all cards is 657,60 €. I'd like the board to approve this sum for the production. Florian - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRG2MyAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxNwEIALl+0nxU89YXn81jYcxItbG+ 7anXOdlv2Ifj8z83o2pey6KwhDmeiIo531/SFtXbbSQ87vwhAhqtyfrp4DGBR3JI qBwrztTeygody/V7ed0duDbIpsW0EdNoVVPC5M7oEp8VE8CKm0svdoebdIfUzZYv ao0qTGge3egIEbYsY2ltdFMQiUfQ7UnxxzGD/bGloCPrCmhSWhJCdg/bB9vvcMPy MGI2za/d3+KSdYojqjCW6UPvFHcLPEgkL0lMfSX0mEgqnE3+MBgZx8IW8D9G3Iy3 JYhe34v5DERKNnyr39bZmqLAuXYYlHCLWehPNxZ9ddzgj1sGvPS65+pTdKiT9tw= =0+cJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[board-discuss] [4.0] Review
Hi to all board members, as 4.0.0 is rolled out there should be a review about what happened: The good points, the bad points What can we do in the same way, what in a better way the next time? What is needed to get it better? A discussion may cause some budget thoughts, community handling, marketing concepts, Whiteboards, Easy Hacks etc. IMHO the board should be the starting point and the lead of such a discussion to give it a direction for the whole community. What do you think? -- Grüße k-j
Re: [board-discuss] [4.0] Review
Hello K-J, thanks for your email. You are right but I don't think it will be formal. However we must do it one way or another. Best, Charles. klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de a écrit : Hi to all board members, as 4.0.0 is rolled out there should be a review about what happened: The good points, the bad points What can we do in the same way, what in a better way the next time? What is needed to get it better? A discussion may cause some budget thoughts, community handling, marketing concepts, Whiteboards, Easy Hacks etc. IMHO the board should be the starting point and the lead of such a discussion to give it a direction for the whole community. What do you think? -- Grüße k-j -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté.
Re: [board-discuss] Development Budget Request
Hi, Thorsten Behrens wrote on 2013-02-12 15:40: Even more specifically, development build hardware. For the gerrit/jenkins setup, we need a (small) build farm. ok, I have added 8.000 € budget proposal for development hardware onto the budget in WebDAV, which is used as basis for my regular mailings. :) Florian
Re: [board-discuss] Development Budget Request
Hi Jonathan, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-02-13 17:29: Regarding the build farm how many Linux machines are we looking for. I am running some tests and I am on a virtual server provider called linode. I am building on their 512mb virtual private servers and they are quite quick and 16 euros a month. the initial proposal is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02815.html Let's move the technical discussion onto the website lists, where it's better suited, IMHO. Florian
Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expenses
Hello Italo, Italo Vignoli wrote on 2013-01-29 14:29: I will travel to Oman in midi February, for the Free Open Source Software Conference (http://fossc-oman.net/). Flight and lodging are covered by the organization, but I will incur in some expenses for local transportation (mostly taxis) and meals. In addition, I will spend the following amounts for my trip to the US in late March, based on a thorough research of the least expensive options: sorry for my late reply, and thanks so much for all your activity! I assume you are talking about the decision # 20121220-01 from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions, right? (budget of 2,000 € for Italo Vignoli's trip to POSSCON and LibrePlanet) So, for the Oman trip there has been no budget approved at all so far, it is only for POSSCON and LibrePlanet, as far as I can so. For the ease of voting, I propose to: 1. Vote on having a budget of 2.500 € in total for your trips to POSSCON, LibrePlanet and FOSSC Oman, 2. thereby revoking decision # 20121220-01 Did I get this right, does this make sense, or did I miss some requests? Please confirm, then we can start voting. ;) Florian
Re: [board-discuss] Travel Expenses
On 2/13/13 5:37 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I assume you are talking about the decision # 20121220-01 from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions, right? (budget of 2,000 € for Italo Vignoli's trip to POSSCON and LibrePlanet) Yes. So, for the Oman trip there has been no budget approved at all so far, it is only for POSSCON and LibrePlanet, as far as I can so. For the ease of voting, I propose to: OMAN should be mostly covered, although I have discovered by digging into the country website that I might be asked to pay for the enry VISA (around 40 Euro, but this is not clear), plus I will have to cover taxi transfers and meals, and I do not know - because I did not get answers to my questions - to which extent the organization covers them (might be all covered, but I will discover it once there). The US trip could prove more expensive than planned because of taxes on lodging, which are difficult to understand as they are not shown on the hotel rates, and other possible extras. I have booked hotels different from the event suggested ones, as I have found cheaper options (but unfortunately not so cheap). I hope to spend the lowest figure, of course, but I prefer to ask in advance than to create a problem afterwards. 1. Vote on having a budget of 2.500 € in total for your trips to POSSCON, LibrePlanet and FOSSC Oman, 2. thereby revoking decision # 20121220-01 Did I get this right, does this make sense, or did I miss some requests? Please confirm, then we can start voting. ;) I confirm, and I will abstain from the vote for obvious reasons. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com
Preliminary December 2012 profits losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2012-12-12)
Florian Effenberger wrote: TDF Budget as of 2012-12-12 This is a non-binding draft. ConCardis is subject to conversion rates and fees. Empty fields declare either no spending, or amount already booked. For SPI, incl. AB fees, see http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2012-September/003100.html Incoming Bank account 93.695,68 € Credit card account 311,69 € PayPal 369,20 € Flattr 0,00 € ConCardis (not taken into account) Outgoing one-time fees LibOCon videos -1.600,00 € Private BoD decision -1.350,00 € Outgoing recurring fees, extrapolated to the rest of the year Servers and bandwith -750,50 € Mail forwarding service -178,50 € ConCardis fees -73,50 € SIP line -50,70 € Tax advisory (est.) -1.500,00 € Authority fees -150,00 € Authority fees reserve -621,47 € INCOMING TOTAL 94.376,57 € OUTGOING TOTAL -6.274,67 € TOTAL BALANCE 88.101,90 € SAFETY RESERVE -15.000,00 € BUDGET 73.101,90 € Dear members, TDF supporters, please find attached our December 2012 profits losses report. This report is preliminary, pending tax advisor approval for the TDF annual financial report. Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Title: The Document Foundation, Berlin Profit & Loss For Period Covering 2012-12-01 to 2012-12-31 The Document Foundation, Berlin Profit & Loss For Period Covering 2012-12-01 to 2012-12-31 Revenues 3220 Received donations / grants EUR 0.00 3221 Monetary Donations With Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 1,425.00 3223 Monetary Donations Without Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 22,253.51 3225 Benefits in Kind With Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 0.00 3227 Benefits in Kind Without Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 0.00 3230 Expense Allowances With Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 0.00 3232 Expense Allowances Without Receipt for Tax Purposes EUR 0.00 Total Revenue EUR 23,678.51 Expenses 2560 Travel costs refunds EUR 1,846.00 2565 Members boarding costs -EUR 40.00 2701 Office supplies EUR 0.00 2702 Telephone EUR 60.00 2704 Other Costs EUR 0.00 2752 Professional association fees EUR 0.00 2753 Insurance costs EUR 0.00 2802 Gifts, anniversary, honors EUR 0.00 2803 Training costs EUR 0.00 2804 Teaching and youth work EUR 0.00 2810 Representation costs EUR 0.00 2894 Tax consulting fees EUR 35.70 2900 Other costs charitable mission EUR 533.60 2900-1 Hosting costs charitable mission EUR 1,005.58 2900-2 Office services Berlin EUR 178.50 2900-3 Other costs software deployment EUR 0.00 Total 2900 Other costs charitable mission EUR 1,717.68 3251 Paid donations / grants EUR 0.00 4712 Bank surcharges EUR 0.00 4752 Insurance costs EUR 0.00 4894 Tax consulting fees EUR 0.00 4900 Other asset management costs EUR 0.00 Total Expenses EUR 3,619.38 Net income for Period EUR 20,059.13 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [tdf-discuss] Watermark in PDF Export
Andreas Mantke wrote: currently the color of the watermark and the font/typeface are hard coded. There is no option to change that yet. Though it shouldn't be too hard to add - want to file an easy-hack bug for it, Andi? Cheers, -- Thorsten -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Watermark in PDF Export
On 02/12/2013 04:59 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am 12.02.2013 15:53, schrieb CVAlkan: Hi: Is there any way to modify the attributes of the watermark that Writer puts into a pdf that it generates? For instance, can the font/typeface, color, orientation, page-placement, etc. be specified somewhere? I've looked through the documentation and help files and such, but found nothing relevant. Thanks for any information. currently the color of the watermark and the font/typeface are hard coded. There is no option to change that yet. Regards, Andreas To get around that limitation[s], why not create a watermark image and place it in the background? I made a very faded color image and placed it in the background in several places on a letterhead. It was so light and faded it could be printed, but would not show up when copied. Althoughthey did not need it, that allowed them to have a way to make sure no one could make copies of the document[s] and claim that it was the original. The color image printed out well in either bw or color. So, if you really need to have a watermark design that cannot be done with the watermark option, try doing that. To be honest, I created the letterhead using OpenOffice.org and did not know how to use any watermark feature. So I used what I knew how to do, the background image. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
Dennis any chance to add your hybrid pdf tutorial to the wiki somewhere? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ S. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to achieve; 1. Vendor-lock-in awarness 2. Hook in on the society learning curve status. The message is: ODT in place of DOC/DOCX, ODS in place of XLS/XLSX, ODP in place of PPT/PPTX. ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level ODF concept! [ ... ] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] November 2012 profits losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2012-12-06)
Florian Effenberger wrote: TDF Budget as of 2012-12-06 This is a non-binding draft. ConCardis is subject to conversion rates and fees. Empty fields declare either no spending, or amount already booked. For SPI, incl. AB fees, see http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2012-September/003100.html Incoming Bank account 83.447,62 € Credit card account 311,69 € PayPal 299,10 € Flattr 177,51 € ConCardis (not taken into account) Outgoing one-time fees LibOCon videos -1.600,00 € Private BoD decision -1.350,00 € Outgoing recurring fees, extrapolated to the rest of the year Servers and bandwith -750,50 € Mail forwarding service -178,50 € ConCardis fees -73,50 € SIP line -50,70 € Tax advisory (est.) -1.500,00 € Authority fees -150,00 € Authority fees reserve -621,47 € INCOMING TOTAL 84.235,92 € OUTGOING TOTAL -6.274,67 € TOTAL BALANCE 77.961,25 € SAFETY RESERVE -15.000,00 € BUDGET 62.961,25 € Dear members, TDF supporters, please find attached our November 2012 profits losses report. This is the first month accounting for accrued donations from our credit card provider (some of that going back into September). Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, Cheers, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Preliminary December 2012 profits losses (was: Re: [board-discuss] TDF Budget as of 2012-12-12)
Florian Effenberger wrote: TDF Budget as of 2012-12-12 This is a non-binding draft. ConCardis is subject to conversion rates and fees. Empty fields declare either no spending, or amount already booked. For SPI, incl. AB fees, see http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2012-September/003100.html Incoming Bank account 93.695,68 € Credit card account 311,69 € PayPal 369,20 € Flattr 0,00 € ConCardis (not taken into account) Outgoing one-time fees LibOCon videos -1.600,00 € Private BoD decision -1.350,00 € Outgoing recurring fees, extrapolated to the rest of the year Servers and bandwith -750,50 € Mail forwarding service -178,50 € ConCardis fees -73,50 € SIP line -50,70 € Tax advisory (est.) -1.500,00 € Authority fees -150,00 € Authority fees reserve -621,47 € INCOMING TOTAL 94.376,57 € OUTGOING TOTAL -6.274,67 € TOTAL BALANCE 88.101,90 € SAFETY RESERVE -15.000,00 € BUDGET 73.101,90 € Dear members, TDF supporters, please find attached our December 2012 profits losses report. This report is preliminary, pending tax advisor approval for the TDF annual financial report. Many thanks for your ongoing support, with kind regards, -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Deputy Chairman of the Board The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Wanted: Libreoffice php-based document management server
Hello, Nice work on LibreOffice 4, however, if I'm being greedy, I would also like a LibreOffice, php-based, document management server. I'm no php guru, but I'm a lot more comfortable with a php-based solution than a java-based solution. Hopefully more of the php-based CMS will begin offering CMIS plugins for documeant management, but I think a LibreOffice solution, A-to-Z (shared calendar), would be better. At the very least, the foundation should adopt an existing php-based CMS and push a CMIS document management plugin, or you can add a LibreOffice gpg extension, partner-up and create a AbiCollab.net-type solution which could generate revenue from users that sign up for Pro accounts via LibreOffice.org At any rate, commercial open source is open source backwards. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] [4.0] Review
Hi Klaus, On 13/02/2013 12:59, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Klaus, [...] Sophie was coming up with a better timeline / set of deadlines for the marketing / organisational things around the release put together which (I hope) would help improve communication between teams and general timeliness. Failing that - having a developers in the marketing calls earlier would be helpful I think. I'll upload a task board and a check list on the wiki, probably next week, with all projects involved and where communication has to flow from one project to another. I'll inform the marketing list when it will be ready so any body can add what I've missed :) Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Membership Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation
Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
It's Simon's tutorial, and this wiki page links to his YouTube video (scroll down a bit to find it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Video_Tutorials --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis any chance to add your hybrid pdf tutorial to the wiki somewhere? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ S. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to achieve; 1. Vendor-lock-in awarness 2. Hook in on the society learning curve status. The message is: ODT in place of DOC/DOCX, ODS in place of XLS/XLSX, ODP in place of PPT/PPTX. ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level ODF concept! [ ... ] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
Great work Jean :) looks great hope a lot of other users will find this page as it's a great feature :) -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; Simon Phipps; discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness It's Simon's tutorial, and this wiki page links to his YouTube video (scroll down a bit to find it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Re sources#Video_Tutorials --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis any chance to add your hybrid pdf tutorial to the wiki somewhere? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ S. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to achieve; 1. Vendor-lock-in awarness 2. Hook in on the society learning curve status. The message is: ODT in place of DOC/DOCX, ODS in place of XLS/XLSX, ODP in place of PPT/PPTX. ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level ODF concept! [ ... ] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
I have now added an explicit link from the entry Docs wiki page to the video tutorials section on the 3rd-party page. Now that we are putting a longer list of video tutorials on that page, we may need to split them off onto a separate page. If we do, we'll leave a link on the 3rd-party page to the new location. The list of videos will need to be organised into logical, labelled categories at some point, too. --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Jean :) looks great hope a lot of other users will find this page as it's a great feature :) -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; Simon Phipps; discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness It's Simon's tutorial, and this wiki page links to his YouTube video (scroll down a bit to find it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Re sources#Video_Tutorials --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis any chance to add your hybrid pdf tutorial to the wiki somewhere? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ S. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to achieve; 1. Vendor-lock-in awarness 2. Hook in on the society learning curve status. The message is: ODT in place of DOC/DOCX, ODS in place of XLS/XLSX, ODP in place of PPT/PPTX. ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level ODF concept! [ ... ] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
:) hopefully come summer I can contribute more then I am both as part of the infra team and as an LO hacker -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:40 PM To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I have now added an explicit link from the entry Docs wiki page to the video tutorials section on the 3rd-party page. Now that we are putting a longer list of video tutorials on that page, we may need to split them off onto a separate page. If we do, we'll leave a link on the 3rd-party page to the new location. The list of videos will need to be organised into logical, labelled categories at some point, too. --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Great work Jean :) looks great hope a lot of other users will find this page as it's a great feature :) -Original Message- From: Jean Weber [mailto:jeanwe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:16 PM To: Jonathan Aquilina Cc: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; Simon Phipps; discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness It's Simon's tutorial, and this wiki page links to his YouTube video (scroll down a bit to find it): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_ and_Re sources#Video_Tutorials --Jean On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Dennis any chance to add your hybrid pdf tutorial to the wiki somewhere? -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: 'Simon Phipps'; 'Boudi van Vlijmen' Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: RE: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness +1 -Original Message- From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webmink.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 07:11 To: Boudi van Vlijmen Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ S. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Boudi van Vlijmen bo...@vanvlijmen.nlwrote: Friends, Every email I send has the footer as in this one. The purpose is to achieve; 1. Vendor-lock-in awarness 2. Hook in on the society learning curve status. The message is: ODT in place of DOC/DOCX, ODS in place of XLS/XLSX, ODP in place of PPT/PPTX. ODF is one bridge to far. People think in DOC, XLS and PPT. To get them away from that we should start from there. Not with a high level ODF concept! [ ... ] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6087 - Release Date: 02/07/13 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Help vendor-lock-in awareness
On 07/02/2013, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: I generally advise people to send me PDFs rather than editable documents unless there's a real need for me to edit them. That way there's no risk anyone will get locked-in to anything :-) If I *do* need to be able to edit I request Hybrid PDF files, which are PDFs with the original ODF source embedded. They are easy to make with LibreOffice and I've created a tutorial here: http://webmink.com/2012/05/07/making-hybrid-pdfs/ No such import filters by default in LO35413. To promote proliferation of odf documents, should distribute in these formats. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
