Re: [tdf-discuss] Licensing question

2013-07-26 Thread RA Stehmann
On 26.07.2013 00:06, theUser BL wrote:
> At first: Congratulation to LibreOffice 4.1.
> 
> In the forums to german news, the most people want to see LibreOffice and 
> ApacheOpenOffice to merge.
> 

Merging parts of the code is one thing, merging the projects is another.

IMO a good and fair collaboration between the projects would be better
for the improvement of Free Software than merging both projects.

Regards
Michael



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Licensing question

2013-07-26 Thread RA Stehmann
On 26.07.2013 00:32, Toki Kantoor wrote:
> On 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, theUser BL wrote:
> 
>> The big question is: Why doing LibreOffice that?
> 
> The short answer is that the licenses that each organization uses allows
> that to happen.
> 
> The longer answer is that free qua libre has implications that free qua
> open does not have. Implications that the Apache Foundation is
> apparently not willing to accept. Likewise, free qua open has
> implications that free qua libre does not have. Implications that the
> Document Foundation is apparently not willing to accept.
> 

That's not the whole truth. The Apache licence doesn't contain a
copyleft clause - that's true.

But the MPL contains a very weak copyleft. The copyleft of the LGPL is
much stronger.

So: why does LibreOffice use the MPL?

Think about it!

Regards
Michael





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Re: [tdf-discuss] Licensing question

2013-07-26 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Michael,

On Fri, 2013-07-26 at 09:53 +0200, RA Stehmann wrote:
> So: why does LibreOffice use the MPL?

The MPLv2 has many advantages and some weaknesses, as do all licenses
depending of course on what you want to achieve. Having said that,
personally I believe it is a great choice for LibreOffice and what TDF
want to achieve. Some fairly large chunks of MPL code are also
distributed with the AOO binaries, it is a 'category-b license' in their
nomenclature.

Either way - I don't believe the framing of your question is that
helpful, or takes account of the balance of contribution & momentum on
the ground. As such, I don't think this is likely to be a terribly
productive interaction no matter what some subset of user comments on
web news threads say today.

All the best,

Michael.

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[tdf-discuss] security related information, CVE-2013-2189 and CVE-2013-4156

2013-07-26 Thread Caolán McNamara
Apache OpenOffice has announced the details of CVE-2013-2189 and
CVE-2013-4156 as they affect Apache OpenOffice, i.e.

CVE-2013-2189: CVE-2013-2189: OpenOffice DOC Memory Corruption
Vulnerability
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.maven.announce/1503

CVE-2013-4156: OpenOffice DOCM Memory Corruption Vulnerability 
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.maven.announce/1504

I have now put up equivalent advisory pages for LibreOffice as...

a) http://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/CVE-2013-2189/
CVE-2013-2189: Microsoft .doc Memory Corruption Vulnerability
We fixed this problem as a side effect of our fixes for CVE-2011-2713 so
any version of LibreOffice >= 3.4.3 is unaffected.

and

b) http://www.libreoffice.org/advisories/CVE-2013-4156/
CVE-2013-4156: Microsoft .docm Denial Of Service
We had done some additional work in that filter so for LibreOffice the
document triggered a NULL deref and immediate termination of the
application. So it's a mild denial of service issue for LibreOffice,
nevertheless upgrading to LibreOffice 3.6.7/4.0.4/4.1.0 will avoid the
DOS.

C.


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