Re: [tdf-discuss] We're on slashdot

[Fridrich Strba]

On Sun, 2010-10-17 at 22:35 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> I've been intending to check how many CC members are Oracle employees
> and how many are not. Do they really have the votes to force these
> changes?


They have all the votes, basically many developers in Hamburg are either
leads or co-leads of a project. So, when the voting comes, they might be
democratically incited by their managers to cast the right vote. The
tentacles ORCL has on the community structures was nicely shown when
they encouraged all project leads from ORCL to vote against Thorsten
Behrens as product development representative, in spite of quite a good
support he had in non-ORCL community part. The actually had to put
against him a straw candidate being an ORCL employee because nobody in
the other part of the community did see any reason to propose anybody
else then Thorsten.

But, even if they did not have the votes, did Robert Mugabe need to win
elections to be president?

Cheers

Fridrich


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Re: [tdf-discuss] why LibO?

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Hello,

On 17/10/2010 04:15, James wrote:
>  Is LibO the official short name for LibreOffice?
> I hate it, it sounds like a system library.
> LO is better.

By reading the lists of discussion, I came to the opinion that this was
the abbreviation that the community was prefering, that is why for beta2
I changed the occurences of LO in the build to LibO.

Please, could you come to an agreement? If the agreement is different, I
can change it back for beta3, but would not like to do this ping-pong
anymore after that, since it makes the upgrades just a pain.

I really don't have any love/hate relationship with software name, so
let the community decide.

Cheers

Fridrich

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Re: [tdf-discuss] (Re-Post) Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

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Hello,

On 14/10/2010 09:25, David Nelson wrote:
> Plus I noticed that Ubuntu distributes an OOo (LibO in future, I
> guess) that is slightly better integrated visually into Gnome than the
> current LibO beta I installed... an added value from additional work
> they do before shipping a distrib update/upgrade?

Not really, just that I am building the release versions of LibO so that
it can run on any machine where OOo runs (with only little notable
upgrade needed and it is glib 2.8.3+). This means that I build against
GTK+ 2.4.x series and some of the cool stuff is simply not there in that
version. Moreover, the build does not use to the maximum possible extent
any system library and dlopens instead of links some others.

That is why it is always preferable to rely on your Linux vendor to
provide the package for that distribution which might simply be smaller,
faster and better integrated. Although, the release build can be
basically used everywhere, with some limitations to the user experience.

Cheers

Fridrich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenSuSE and Libò

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On 13/10/2010 17:44, Carlo Strata wrote:
> 1. May OOo 3.2.1.x/3.3.x and Libò coexist (in the same operating system
> instance, I mean)? At least in linux? May I go on with just downloaded
> Libò x86-64 beta2?

Yes, you can take the rpm version of beta2 and install on your openSUSE.
It will not conflict (at most you will have to give it a --force for
some two or three mimetype files). Install the freedesktop menus and you
should be having nice working shortcuts in your Menu under Office.

> 2. When does Novell/OpenSuSE start to build Libò in his (our!) OBS? I
> mean here:
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/
> 
> or here
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Office:/ (in a new
> "LibreOffice" directory)
> 
> or here, too
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/ (in a new
> "LibreOffice" directory)?
> 
> To search in the OBS you could go here (The Famous Webpin page)
> http://packages.opensuse-community.org/

Here, Petr Mladek will for sure tell you more

> It's now time for Novell and OpenSuSE whole Community to start giving
> solid/concrete Libò/TDF support signs! :-)

Yeah, I also think that it is now hight time for Novell and openSUSE
Community to get finally involved ;)

Fridrich
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

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Please, don't enter into political consideration of something that was
just a bug. It was me that screwed it up and during the pre-announcement
phase sprint, I forgot to regenerate the product IDs and thus LO had the
product IDs of OOo. This is fixed in beta2, so stay tuned. As a
side-effect though is that one has to uninstall beta1 before one can
install correctly beta2.

Cheers

F.

On 12/10/10 01:00, NoOp wrote:
> LibO install in Windows currently follows the go-oo practice of removing
> existing OOo installs (without warning). It can of course be installed
> in parallel (see my thread "[libreoffice-users] [Windows] LibO in
> parallel w/OOo?" on the users list, but that provides several distinct
> disadvantages:
> 
> 1. No system file association or icons.
> 2. No menu items (user must create their own + desktop icon)
> 3. Program file names are the same as OOo (soffice, scalc etc) so there
> is no easy way to distinguish between _which_ soffice et al that you are
> running.
> 
> Given that LibO is a "fresh start", it would be nice if LibO can, in the
> future, behave in a responsible manner on Windows installs and not trash
> a user's version of OOo. After all, the user should have the freedom
> (Libre?) of being able to have both OOo and LibO installed on their
> system (in the same way one can on linux). I think that new (Windows)
> users to LibO might get pretty upset when they find that the install has
> trashed their OOo. I'm familiar with the issue of go-oo & Kami's
> OxygenOffice version trashing OOo in the install process, but new
> users/converts from OOo will not.
>   Also recommend that the bins be changed from soffice to loffice etc.,
> so that it's easy to determine which is which on the system.
> 
> Disclaimer: I primarily use only linux, but I also use WinXP/7 for
> testing OOo, and now LibO.
> 
> 

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice build on

[Fridrich Strba]

Just drop at #libreoffice at irc.freenode.org. We are many there to make
you build on CentOS 5. I manage even to build it on CentOS 4, so it
should not be bad :)

Fridrich

On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 01:48 +0700, Nguyen Vu Hung wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Anyone can tell me how to build LibreOffice on CentOS 5.5?
> 
> # I couldn't find the thing I need in
> # http://www.documentfoundation.org/develop/
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards,
> Nguyen Hung Vu [aka: NVH] ( in Vietnamese: Nguyễn Vũ Hưng
>  )
> vuhung16plus{remo...@gmail.dot.com
> , YIM: vuhung16 , Skype:
> vuhung16plus
> A brief profile: http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/~vuhung/Nguyen.Vu.Hung.html
> 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libreoffice 64bit program in Windows

[Fridrich Strba]

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This is great idea, could you please join #libreoffice on
irc.freenode.org and subscribe libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org


There are people hanging there that could help you to start doing the
porting work.

Cheers

Fridrich

On 29/09/2010 08:44, Jan Parttimaa wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I want to say first congratulations about new and better community.
> 
> I have a proposal. What if would be a two program for Windows: 32- bit
> Libreoffice in Windows and 64- bit Libreoffice in Windows.
> 
> 
> What to you think about that? :)
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Jan Parttimaa
> 

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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice on Fedora12 64bit

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Install the libreoffice3.3-freedesktop-menus rpm and run
update-desktop-database

On 29/09/2010 08:23, Danishka Navin wrote:
> I have installed LibraOffice 64bit version on F12 X86_64 after removing
> OpenOffice.
> I can't see any LibreOffice Application under Application > Office Menu
> 

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