Re: [tdf-discuss] HC issue
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.comwrote: hey guys i think i have a solution to the high contrast issue with a dark desktop theme. how come we aren't using the app selection menu from OOo? it works just fine in regards to a dark colored background. attached there are the images. one in white is the LO with a dark theme, and white app selection menu. if you high light over the text it will appear if not it vanishes into the menu due to the text being white. the other image is the OOo app selection which works just fine in regards to a dark theme. Jonathan, I didn't get any attachments. It's possible they were stripped by the list manager - Can you upload them to an image host and share the links? Thanks, -- Kevin Vermeer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: A proposal for effective, volunteer-friendly user support in LibreOffice
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Nathan nathan1...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/23/2010 11:57 AM, plino wrote: I do agree that volunteer-friendly user support is the key for the success of any Open Source project. However, in my opinion e-mail and mailing lists are obsolete and ineffective tools. A user forum (with optional mail notification) and a wiki are much more powerful tools. A forum makes it much easier to create a hierarchy of helpers based on merit and on the other hand to handle poorly behaved users. A wiki can be an organized structure of accumulated knowledge. i agree, a forum would be more efficient and easier to manage. Out of all the open source forum solutions currently out, I would have to say that Vanilla forums is the best. Between active development, aesthetically appealing, up to date feature sets, it has it all. http://www.vanillaforums.org Forums and wikis both have their uses, but a wiki is limited by the keywords the user knows, its existing content, and its search function, and a forum is prone to developing long, meandering questions/discussions and lots of duplicate questions. As Benjamin demonstrated (accidentally), they're not ideal for question-and-answer discussions. He linked to stackoverflow.com, which is not an open-source platform, but is a great precedent for a support system. It integrates the concepts of a blog, wiki, forum, and Digg/Reddit into one system that seems to work well for asking and getting answers to questions. Superuser.com is actually the place to ask questions about the use of software rather than Stackoverflow, which is for development. OpenOffice.org actually has 181 questions in their own tag on this site. There are no questions about LibreOffice yet. Should we start a new tag for LibreOffice and maintain a presence there? -- Kevin Vermeer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:58 PM, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+ooofut...@googlemail.com lohmaier%2booofut...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi Larry, *, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Gmail very capable for mailing lists. Except for the very one drawback you just demonstrated: When changing the subject, gmail will break the thread (start a new one) as it will remove the references from the reply. This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with [tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others insert the Re: before the [tdf-discuss] token, leading to four kinds of subjects like: 1. [tdf-discuss] Communication in Mailinglist 2. Re: [tdf-discuss] Communication in Mailinglist 3. [tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist 4. Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist Having these four different styles instead of just two is what causes conversations to break. gmail (and possibly others) use the first and second styles, and don't recognize that the third is a reply to the first, generating the fourth. What clients generate the third? One solution to the problem is to agree on using either the second or third style, and punish anyone who uses the banned version. This will be difficult, as most people don't realize where the Re: goes in their own replies, and some mail clients will default to the other version. The better solution in my mind is to remove the [tdf-discuss] part of the subject. I know it's the [tdf-discuss] mailing list because of the address discuss@documentfoundation.org and the signature, and this information doesn't have to be duplicated in the subject line. Most modern mail clients include some filter functionality to help differentiate between mailing lists - browsing a list of subjects and expecting anyone who communicates with you to label themselves with a token in brackets is rather old-fashioned. Also, having that token in every subject is redundant when browsing properly filtered emails. -- Kevin Vermeer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Communication in Mailinglist
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.comwrote: On 2010/11/23 12:25 PM Kevin Vermeer wrote: This only happens on this list, because every subject is prepended with [tdf-discuss] and some replies get Re: inserted after it while others insert the Re: before the [tdf-discuss] token, leading to four kinds of subjects like: Once again I am glad that I follow this list as a newsgroup through gmane. None of the post I get have [tdf-discuss] in the subject line. As for the insertion of the Re:, that is determined by the email client. Some insert it before, some after [tdf-discuss]. Why does gmane remove it? It's clearly a part of the subject, if you look at the original headers. Is filtering with tokens in square brackets a standardized or recommended practice? If so, I'll submit a bug report to the gmail team, and that will be the end of it. However, gmane is the only client I'm aware of that handles it in a special way (based on the gmail web interface and Mozilla Thunderbird and Apple Mail tools). If the action it takes is to strip it, then why bother in the first place? -- Kevin Vermeer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
