[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: IBM is alive ;)
Hello Jonathan Aquilina, Am 2012-02-04 15:37:19, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: The migration to the Cloud seems quite interesting and fit for a general discussion list ;) Its actually quite funny I was thinking of offering something in the cloud with a web based version of LO to my clients where they would rent a virtual private server for the office and login or use the web version to do their work respectivley. Currently I develop a Cloud-Service and I have already asked for a Web- Version of OOo or LO... ;-) I do exactly the same as you... =8O And believe it, I know several 100 other peoples (most IT selfemployed) which do the same as we. It is time to get a working Web-Version Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux Internet Service Provider, Cloud Computing http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ itsystems@tdnet Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de Owner Michelle Konzack Gewerbe Strasse 3 Tel office: +49-176-86004575 77694 Kehl Tel mobil: +49-177-9351947 Germany Tel mobil: +33-6-61925193 (France) USt-ID: DE 278 049 239 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: IBM is alive ;)
Hello Jonathan Aquilina, Am 2012-02-04 20:07:46, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Ben i just had a major botched issue with vmware in regards to using esxi to resell services using this virtualization platform. I am apprehensive to try again with them cuz the company is so full of beurocracy it makes it hard for a small business such as mine to buy into their products. You are not alone! I had to drop VMWare entirely! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux Internet Service Provider, Cloud Computing http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ itsystems@tdnet Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de Owner Michelle Konzack Gewerbe Strasse 3 Tel office: +49-176-86004575 77694 Kehl Tel mobil: +49-177-9351947 Germany Tel mobil: +33-6-61925193 (France) USt-ID: DE 278 049 239 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Forums... again
Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-24 11:09:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: hmmm. it loads in 2 seconds here (and i have very low quality DSL). So take my word for it, your mailing list messages to any list that is archived, as are all TDF lists, are indexed by search engines. I am on GSM and theoretical use UMTS/HSPA but where I live we have a radio hole and only sometimes it works or using an illegal 14dbi Yaggi antenna Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-24 11:21:03, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I just want to write in as a consultant and end-user, to point out several of the major benefits of forums over mailing lists that I have not noticed yet in this discussion: mainly --visibility, persistence and searchability Mailinglists Archives are widely mirrort and searchable too I am actually a fan of the mailman software used to run this list and have hosted several email lists using mailman (and, before that, majordomo). However, i find that whereas email lists are better for discussions like this one, web forums make more sense for official and/or community support. For software I use that has web -based support forums, I almost always can find that the question I have has already been asked and answered by someone else, or that the problem I wish to report has already been supported. If you've ever tried searching in mailman archives to see if your question has already been posted answered, it is an exercise in total frustration. FUD Another thing: once I'm on a web forum, if I have time I start poking through the categories to pick out topics of interest and i learn so much about the forum. And another thing: effectively moderated forums will have a FAQ section so that rather than the regular participants having to answer the same questions over and over they can simply point to the FAQ. Web-Forums areheavy target of spamers... Iknow many of them which where hijacked by PE and asian electronic sellers and such... For those who complain of the bandwidth and time entailed in loading web pages: There is this little thing called RSS, it's been around for a couple of years ;-) ... It tells nothing... (experience) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Forums... again
Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-22 19:01:54, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Just wanted to briefly point out that your participation on these libreoffice mailing lists ARE being indexed by search engines http://www.google.com/search?q=michelle+konzack+libreoffice It is slow! I can not use it! Also it produce a very high traffic which I have to pay. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Forums... again
Forgotten one thing: As a developer, I have always my MUA open in one of m screens and I see, when I new message, maybe for me important, came in. Also I see immediately Subjects: I am interested in or I like to help. This is not possibel on Web-Forums which you have to reload all 35 mins and then of course have to walk through all Sub-Forums pages. This is WHY it is not reliabel for peoples which like to support the community. Note: I am owner of more then 180 mailinglists which I manage my own, but as a Web-Forum it would require at least 10-15 peoples here. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Hello aqualung, Am 2011-04-17 09:07:45, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I keep hearing freedom, but is it about the freedom of users from being locked into a proprietary file format... or the freedom of unattached software developers to get their patches committed? Do people here really believe that a community of unpaid enthusiasts can take the place of a major corporation, or several, putting dozens of experienced professional developers to work Monday thru Friday, month after month? If so, it's a pipe dream! What about paying for support? Coming back to the call for a forum, why not let the users decide how they would prefer to ask for assistance? ??? User can ALREADY choose the Mailinglist or the Forum! Maybe yo should go and hire some PROs which do there Job in the Forum? Note: I hate Web-Forums and I hate social networks, because they ARE associal! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Forums... again
Hello RGB ES, Am 2011-04-17 21:33:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: For whatever reason normal people do not use mailing lists nor irc channels. Hmmm, do you mean I am not normal? - This is discrimination! This people who arrives to that get-help page searching for help with their problems will not find solutions on an easy way. And people who cannot find a solution on an easy way will not use a product. I do not use thos crapy forums, because I have to search to long for it. It is NON reliabel and slow. Do not belive I want to give a searchengine any infos about me, because I need help with a stupid program. Mailinglists are the fastest way to get help, because the Real Helpers use all mail to communicate faster and easier! Only some non-well-educated noobs use searchengine+forum! NNTP and MAIL exist since 30 years with success! Is everything about trust: people will trust a product not because they can use it for free (people usually do not consider idealogical issues like file formats nor open code when choosing their solutions), usually they only look if that software can solve their *immediate* problem on an easy way. And that of course include how they get help when they have a problem. Mailinglist are the way to go! I am volunter on some mailinglistst and I definitively would not do it, if I have to use forums on my TabletPC. get an answer there, we trust the people who maintain that board so use it with confidence and good luck you will help a lot more people. You can pay peoples to maintain this board and of course the costs for maintenance of such server which is much higher then a mailinglist. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again
Hello aqualung, Am 2011-04-17 11:26:23, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: The http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ should be at or near the top. WHY? I think the first one should be the ORIGINAL mailinglist, because it is more ipmortant. Also WHY OpenOffice and not LibreOffice? Of you want an OpenOffice Forum, you should ask Oracle for it! :-D Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Mail List issues
Hello Charles Marcus, Am 2011-03-11 08:52:18, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: 1. Change the subject of the confirmation email. Something like: ACTION REQUIRED: You MUST CONFIRM your unsubscribe request from listname This sound like courier-mlm which I use on my OWN system and it force peoples to put te word yes into the Subject: to subscribe. :-D 2. Don't require the user to REPLY to the email - include a clickable LINK in the email they can click on to execute the unsub request. Yeah, thats sound perfectly, because stupid users click on anything 3. Considering that the vast majority - over 99% most likely - of users who click on the current link actually want to unsubscribe, regardless of how you personally feel about it, there really, really needs to be a DIRECT unsub link in the footer. Windows-Clicky-Idiot-Users Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Spam filtering the mailing lists
Hello Friedrich, Am 2011-01-18 15:14:15, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: No single one coming through here sent by the lists I subscribed (de-discuss, tdf-discuss, steering-discuss). You could find them in the list-archive? But yes, there are some sent to the mailadress used in that mailinglists, which is another topic. I have checked my archive (I am subscribed with two E-Mails) too and currently there is not a singel spam. And currenty I do not filter my second (secret) E-Mail because aaa mailinglist I have on it are spamfree Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
