Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk
On 21/01/12 16:21, Pedro wrote: Apparently someone decided that it was a good idea to replace the Floppy icon. I'm sorry I didn't get a change to vote (if there was any voting) Personally I think that regardless if people know what a Floppy is, they recognized that symbol as the Save icon (basically a blue square with a white rectangle). Today I loaded LO 3.5.0 RC1 and for a moment I thought the Save button was gone, until I realized it was replaced by another icon. I would like to understand how or when this was decided so that next time I can have a say (or not, if user input is not required or wanted) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-we-replace-Floppy-Disk-tp3617084p3678013.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). Terry W -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have to manually switch to another icon set. I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched before posting here. The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so that it is no longer the default for any new user? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-we-replace-Floppy-Disk-tp3617084p3678054.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. I didn't follow the thread that closely earlier on, but I seem to remember that somebody said that some of the available icon sets did not use the floppy icon for save. Is that correct or is my memory in error? Terry W -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Can we replace Floppy Disk
On 21/01/12 16:51, Pedro wrote: Terry Warby wrote What icon set are you using? I have 3.5RC1 installed under both Xubuntu 11.10 and Win7 and have the floppy icon for save in both (using the crystal and galaxy icons). I was using the Automatic (Tango) icon set. I guess from now on I will have to manually switch to another icon set. I am aware that I can switch icon sets. Actually I had already switched before posting here. The point is: did everybody agree that the Floppy icon was a bad idea so that it is no longer the default for any new user? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Can-we-replace-Floppy-Disk-tp3617084p3678054.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Just did a quick check and it seams that of the icon sets I have installed only the tango icon sets don't use the floppy icon. This was probably covered earlier in the thread! Terry W -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] (Re-Post) Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update
On 14/10/10 05:25, Scott Furry wrote: Dear LibreOffice Community, I am Re-Posting the original survey under new title. If you wish to have a discussion about the survey or aspects of someone's responses, I would kindly ask that you start a new thread (please add discussion or similar to the title so as to distinguish the discussion from the survey itself). For those of you who have replied, thank you. I have your answers tucked away and you do not have to fill this out again. For those who have not replied, with a rather timely new beta release, please give thought about what is important to you when it comes to installing/updating LibreOffice. Your responses will help TDF understand its users. I intend to keep this thread going for a couple more weeks. At that time, I'll compile and report back the results. Thanks to all, Scott Furry Original Survey Follows - As suggested, this post is intended to get the opinion of the community about how best to deliver LibreOffice to its users. Given that LibreOffice is an important and viable alternative to paid-for office productivity software, and we all feel strongly and passionately about the direction of LibreOffice, input about the community members' expectations/needs/users is needed. From what we have heard on this topic so far: - Mac users have commented that they do not have an issue with the current installer available on the Mac platform. - Window users indicated that an update mechanism would be great. Some commented that the current Windows installer leaves artifacts behind. The Windows Installer does not detect/remove previous installations properly. - Linux users have discussed vast amounts opinions on packaging in Linux. Some have questioned if distributing packages is a good thing. --- This survey is to gauge the views of the LibreOffice community on the install/update method of LibreOffice. Please voice your opinion so that these considerations may be taken into account when the LibreOffice method of install/update is studied by the developer team. Please *bottom-post* your opinions. How do you expect LibreOffice to be updated? How do you Install/Update LibreOffice? What do you expect when Installing/Updating LibreOffice? Other programs have separate updating programs (iTunes being an example), if it was technically feasible, would having a separate install program for LibreOffice (with updating features) be useful to you? Would having a download and update site, as well as a Unix|Linux package repository site, be of value to you? --- Please note that I am not affiliated with DocumentFoundation. I am like you, a community member who wants to see LibreOffice be very successful. So let's hear what you think folks? Regards, Scott Furry 1.Updates. Linux - Personally there is no problem with the current OOo practice of distro packages and OOo vanilla packages in parallel. This would suit me for LibO. However, it would be helpful for newbies if updates from the distro repositories could be available between distro upgrades - thinking particularly of Ubuntu and derivatives. Updates.Windows - I have no problem with the current OOo practice, however a decent installer and, perhaps the ability to carry out partial updates/upgrades would be helpful. 2. I install install/upgrade the vanilla versions for linux (ubuntu) and use this in parallel with the distro version (OOo). When LibO goes to 3.3.0 final I'll probably remove the distro version. 3. Separate install/updating program - Haven't thought about this - could be nice but would want to know a few more details first. 4.Download Update site in addition to a linux distro repository site - I regard this as a must - see my answer to 1., above. Hope these answers add usefully to the sum total of knowledge being acumulated! Terry W -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Explanation . . . ?
On 30/09/2010 22:19, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-09-30 15:32, jonathon a écrit : On 09/29/2010 05:45 PM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: If they insist on keeping the trademark given to Sun Microsystems becau se the community hadn't an entity to claim violations and abuse, I seriously doubt that Oracle will donate the trademarks to Document Foundation. Selling them is a possibility, but the price would probably be for whatever OOo, as an independent company, would sell for. As such, all planning should be done on the basis that the project has been rebranded to LibreOffice. jonathon It wouldn't surprise me if Oracle did hand over the OpenOffice.org trademark name. They will no doubt have been on this mailist and seen how many of the localization teams have moved to the LibreOffice group. I don't think that this change in direction was a big surprise to them as it wasn't for the OpenOffice.org community. It would be in their interest as corporate citizens to establish good will with the OpenOffice.org community, and, as the LibreOffice is happening with or without the OpenOffice.org name, the game to them is lost. It's just a matter of clearing all liabilities from their end of their business model and joining the Document Foundation project along with everyone else. I don't think that there is any animosity between the group, we should all be thankful that Sun bought and delivered the code to OSS regardless of how they may or may not have run the code approval system. Just imagine the pre-StarOffice days, when the only real word processor in town was MSOffice and Wordperfect had been decimated by its competitor. Without Sun's generosity, we would not now be in a position to create a foundation based on an OSS office suite. So, hats off and congratulations first of all to Sun Microsystems who gave us this wonderful piece of software, and hopefully, hats off with congratulations and upmost of thanks to Oracle for helping us with the transition from being under the safety of a corporate umbrella to a document foundation based on OSS and the sharing of code. Oracle/Sun would then be remembered as a darling corporation who helped foster OSS adoption. With a little luck, Oracle could offer support for the Document Foundation with seed money and hardware facilities/support until the foundation's business model is put into work and able to stand on its own financially. This is what happened to Mozilla when it first set out on its own. Hopefully, the LibreOffice will be only a temporary and brief episode and the OpenOffice.org brand will live on along with the great community that it has always had. Let's keep the lines of communication open and remain positive. Cheers Marc First, let me congratulate all those that have taken this initiative. As a long time lurker and (very) occasional contributor to the OOo users list and a user of OOo for the past seven or eight years, I welcome the chance to be a (small) part of this community led project. Like others, I really hope that Oracle do hand over name and branding of OpenOffice.org. It has a fantastic reputation and user base and being able to use it will help to consolidate the new Foundation when formally established. However, I think that we have to be realistic. Oracle are in business to make money. Software and hardware are just their means to do it. Oracle have already re-branded Star Office as Oracle OpenOffice. Unless they see a real commercial advantage in doing so, they will not pass on the name and branding. They already see FLOSS as detracting from their commercial interests and being in competition with them. Why else would they cease development of Open Solaris? I think that until the Document Foundation actually has the OpenOffice.org name and trademark in its hands, we have to operate on the basis that the name and further development of OpenOffice.org will only be on the basis of supporting Oracle's commercial offerings. I hope this doesn't seem to gloomy a view. Its not meant to be. On the contrary, I am extremely optimistic for the future of LibreOffice. Many thanks to all those involved in this initiative. Terry W -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
