[tdf-discuss] Impossible to unsubscribe
Just alerting the community that the robots for subscribing or unsubscribing via email from documentfoundation.org lists such as this one have not been working for at least the past couple of weeks.Yes, I am attempting to unsubscribe from this same email address at which I receive list messages. The error message sent back by the server is:This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:discuss+unsubscribe@documentfoundation.orgSMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: host pumbaa.documentfoundation.org [176.9.37.77]: 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=30143-12 - SPAMAn attempt to subscribe to this list generates this error message:Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:discuss+subscribe@documentfoundation.orgTechnical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain documentfoundation.org by pumbaa.documentfoundation.org. [2a01:4f8:150:4343::2]. The error that the other server returned was: 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=31994-01 - SPAMI have also tried writing topostmaster@documentfoundation.orgas per the instructions onhttp://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/but got no response. It seems that there is a spam trap that bounces messages, perhaps, with blank subjects and bodies, but someone forgot to make an exception for server requestshope someone gets it fixed soon, I am retiring this email address and would like to subscribe to some lists from a different email address :-(kazar -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Impossible to unsubscribe
Wow, formatting got completely screwed up between Thunderbird on my end and the listserv on the other. I hope this is more clear: Just alerting the community that the robots for subscribing or unsubscribing via email from documentfoundation.org lists such as this one have not been working for at least the past couple of weeks.Yes, I am attempting to unsubscribe from this same email address at which I receive list messages. The error message sent back by the server is: = This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: host pumbaa.documentfoundation.org [176.9.37.77]: 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=30143-12 - SPAM = ... An attempt to subscribe to this list generates this error message: = Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain documentfoundation.org by pumbaa.documentfoundation.org. [2a01:4f8:150:4343::2] The error that the other server returned was: 554 5.7.0 Reject, id=31994-01 - SPAM = I have also tried writing to postmas...@documentfoundation.org as per the instructions on http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ but got no response. It seems that there is a spam trap that bounces messages, perhaps, with blank subjects and bodies, but someone forgot to make an exception for server requests. I hope someone gets it fixed soon, I am retiring this email address and would like to subscribe to some lists from a different email address :-( kazar -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] removing mailing list prefixes?
On 8/2/2012 4:10 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, M. Fioretti wrote on 2012-08-02 11:15: According to this page it does: http://legroom.net/howto/thunderbird Thunderbird does, GMail doesn't. :) I filter just fine in Thunderbird on the recipients ... e.g., for this list To contains discuss@documentfoundation.org OR Cc contains documentfoundation.org Gmail would handle that filter just fine also kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action
On 4/16/12 10:15 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote: Hi, all. A few months ago, we had some good discussion about improvements to Writer's notes feature, in a thread titled Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges As a result, Chrisoph added a feature request-- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38244 --and a place to vote for it-- http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_38244_-_Enable_attaching_comments_to_document_text_ranges_in_Writer I do not see how to vote. I created an account, I am logged in, I have clicked the validation link in the email that was sent, logged out and back in again, but I still see this on the View Source page: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Preferences. I would love to see this feature added. IMO the main feature set that could stand improvement would be those things that facilitate collaborative editing. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action
I wrote I do not see how to vote. I created an account, I am logged in, I have clicked the validation link in the email that was sent, logged out and back in again, but I still see this on the View Source page: You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Preferences. NEVER MIND. The site (or Firefox) was being picky about the fact that I had confirmed my e-address in one browser tab, then reloaded the Vote for Enhancement page in another tab. Tab-distinct cookies is not something I've run into before, do they actually exist? Anyhow. I will add my vote now! kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action
On 4/17/12 1:43 AM, adept techlists - kazar wrote: I would love to see this feature added. IMO the main feature set that could stand improvement would be those things that facilitate collaborative editing. arrrgggh. OK i got myself registered on the wiki after some rigamarole. Went into Edit pane on that bug added my comment in the same format as all the other ones that are there: # myCommentHere ... this is how I always have edited any wiki page. Preview shows my comment but the page does not. I give up. But I do love the idea :-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action
REALLY NEVER MIND THIS TIME. I realize i put my comment under the disagree subheading. Easy to do for mere mortals who are not developers ... I scrolled to the bottom and added my comment, which then put it under some strange phrase that was surrounded by things like ' ' ' and was hard to read so my eye skipped over that line. Regular people like me shouldn't be allowed into wikis, LOL! The code just makes me cross-eyed. I'm glad some sort of voting mechanism has been set up, but i look forward to someday seeing feature-voting mechanism that just lets those allergic to plain-text coding click checkboxes and buttons. Glad I didn't do worse damage, apologies to all for the noise. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] How developers scare end-users away from filing bugs
Apologies for my poorly written email. I should have waited until my headache goes away :p I wrote: Nevertheless, based on Rainer's well-reasoned response explaining that bug reports that do not include certain elements such as sample docs, screenshots, localization info and other things that are not asked for in the public-facing bug report form, are developers being done a disservice? That sentence might make more sense like this: Nevertheless, based on Rainer's well-reasoned response explaining that bug reports that do not include certain elements (such as sample docs, screenshots, localization info and other things that are not asked for in the public-facing bug report form) can actually stress QA/devs more than help them, are developers being done a disservice by the existence of a public-facing bug report form that does not ask for important details? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] How developers scare end-users away from filing bugs
I noticed a problem in a 3.5 RC 1, I was able to reproduce it every time I tried, and I decided to follow the nice end-user friendly links during the bug hunt. It felt really good as a non-developer to contribute in this very small way. I found the form for filing a big report helpful, although I have filed bug reports galore during my days as a Beta tester, year after year, for a database management title. So I filled in the sections of the bug report with the pertinent information. IMO there is next to no room in my report for misunderstanding as to what I am talking about and how to reproduce it. A developer tests it on a different platform, cannot reproduce, and basically spanks me by suggesting: - that I should have added screenshots (how would you take a screenshot of an Undo that does not work right?!), - I should have clicked some link he provided and read detailed instructions on how to submit my report (the link he tells me I should have read does not exist on the nice friendly page at https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/) - that I should include my LibO localization (UI language, Locale setting) which the form for the report did not ask me for - should include my Libo settings that might be related to your problems AND WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN thinks the end-user All in all this is very discouraging. I had high hopes when I heard about the bug hunt and saw the well-done page for the general public to submit bugs, that maybe this time around I've found an OS project where my contribution, however tiny, would go smoothly and be satisfactory. I do not understand what was unclear about my report but since it was apparently completely insufficient and unintelligible, should I spare my valuable time from submitting any more? This kind of treatment (see below) is classic for developers who never get out of their cubby to say hi to an end user and have a beer and get any sense of who it is they are even writing software for. My bug report is very clear, IMO. I did mention the keystroke for the problematic operation. I did describe the Current Behavior and the Expected Behavior as per the form that was presented for me to fill in. There is no way to take a screenshot of it, I'd have to make a movie. Most of this: OS (Version, Distribution, Language) was included in my user agent string, and nothing additional such as language was asked for in the form. So now my bug report is marked NEEDSINFO and I'm expected to supply all this info that I either already did supply or that is impossible to supply or that I have to start studying documentation to even know what the requested info is ( LibO localization) (sorry I'm a dumb American. I download. I install. I use. I have no clue about localization or where to begin to look for Libo settings that might be related to your problems) To sum up, I think I did a pretty damned good job as a non-developer in my bug report. I think it is clear. I also believe that instead of marking it NEEDSINFO this developer should have left it as Unconfirmed and asked someone on a Mac to confirm. I will not be going back to interact with this developer. And I seriously doubt I'll be filing another bug report. Sorry to say. Very regretfully. Sorry to be so steamed. Thank you for reading. kazar == (bug 45247) Ilyse Kazar 2012-01-25 14:46:07 PST Problem description: Steps to reproduce: 1. Open a spreadsheet that has data in some cells. I have tested with .csv and .ods 2. Click on a populated cell, start typing a few letters (i.e., to replace what was there 3. Press Undo (Cmd-Z) to undo your edit (i.e., in hopes of restoring the original contents of the cell). Press Undo again. Maybe again. Current behavior: The Undo starts suggesting possible content matches from other cells. No matter how many times you press undo the original contents of the cell will not reappear. It appears that the auto-complete logic is somehow trumping the Undo logic. Expected behavior: Undo should restore what was in a cell before typing. Platform (if different from the browser): Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/9.0.1 Comment 1 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45247#c1 Rainer Bielefeld 2012-01-25 21:25:16 PST NOT reproducible with LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC2 German UI/Locale [Build-ID: e371a95-bf68a13-5a1aa2b-d3c1ae9-b938258] on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) @Ilyse Kazar: May I ask you to read hints onhttp://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport? Then please: - Attach a sample document (not only screenshot) - Attach screenshots with comments if you believe that that might explain the problem better than a text comment. Best way is to insert your screenshots into a DRAW document and to add comments that explain what you want to show - Contribute a step by step instruction containing every key press and every mouse
[tdf-discuss] bug-hunt wiki: add info re IRC server name channel
I found the IRC channel in the invitational email. But only after looking on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1#Find_a_bug.3F where i did not find where to go. (But thanks for the link to IRC help!) In the Find a Bug? section there are links to Buzilla and the QA mailing list, and links for IRC Help, but the specific server channel are not named nor linked to. If there are any Mac-based readers -- the Mac Clients page is quite out of date. Just use Adium (via which you can amalgamate all sorts of chat protocols into one app) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use
On 12/8/11 5:43 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 08/12/11 18:47, adept techlists - kazar wrote: On 12/6/11 12:08 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a source of buttons to add to my web pages. Any thought/pointers anyone? Peter HB Not sure what your question has to do with discussing LibreOffice. Maybe in the future find a forum for web developers? But as for your buttons, perhaps try Crystal http://www.everaldo.com/crystal/?action=preview I think that you're missing the point. I wish to advertise *LibreOffice* via my web site and I assume that this would be a good thing. ;-) Oh, I definitely missed your point!! sorry kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice buttons for web site use
On 12/6/11 12:08 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I've been trying unsuccessfully to find a source of buttons to add to my web pages. Any thought/pointers anyone? Peter HB Not sure what your question has to do with discussing LibreOffice. Maybe in the future find a forum for web developers? But as for your buttons, perhaps try Crystal http://www.everaldo.com/crystal/?action=preview kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges
Ian Lynch mailto:ianrly...@gmail.com June 12, 2011 11:51 AM Even better if it was on the web so that documents could be created collaboratively ;-) Yes, that would be extremely nice, but given the many millions of people who have sporadic and/or slow connections, I would vote for first polishing up the collaboration features in the desktop app. (if i have/had a vote somewhere) kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges
I'll just add the point from a philosophical standpoint that almost more than enabling all humans to create documents (presos etc.), is enabling humans to work together. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges
Charles Jenkins mailto:cejperso...@tec-usa.com June 10, 2011 2:03 PM Truly, I beg you to add comment ranges in LibreOffice so I can stop using Word altogether for writing. I concur. Not only for writer/editor situations, but for all kinds of scenarios in which humans need to collaborate on a document. The key roadblock for using LibreOffice when I head up a team is exactly the need for a feature that makes it possible to mark off the text about which one is commenting. Charles really made the case. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges
Christoph Noack wrote: Quite some time ago, I defined the corresponding behavior so that it matches which the today's notes. The visual design: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_Design_NoteAnchor#Proposal_.22Boxes_.28Note_Anchor_Area.29.22 The behavior when inserting notes / editing text: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes_Design_WorkingWithNotes#Proposed_Designs perfect. Not a developer (so what good am i :-)) but I can say, these mockups represent what is really needed. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Forums... again
On 4/23/11 10:02 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello adept techlists - kazar, Am 2011-04-22 19:01:54, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Just wanted to briefly point out that your participation on these libreoffice mailing lists ARE being indexed by search engines http://www.google.com/search?q=michelle+konzack+libreoffice It is slow! I can not use it! Also it produce a very high traffic which I have to pay. hmmm. it loads in 2 seconds here (and i have very low quality DSL). So take my word for it, your mailing list messages to any list that is archived, as are all TDF lists, are indexed by search engines. since you pay metered bandwidth and are sensitive to the costs, you might trim your signature to one or two lines. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again
On 4/17/11 8:30 AM, RGB ES wrote: People like forums. People NEED forums. So, why every time the forum issue is considered here it falls on nothing? I just want to write in as a consultant and end-user, to point out several of the major benefits of forums over mailing lists that I have not noticed yet in this discussion: mainly --visibility, persistence and searchability I am actually a fan of the mailman software used to run this list and have hosted several email lists using mailman (and, before that, majordomo). However, i find that whereas email lists are better for discussions like this one, web forums make more sense for official and/or community support. For software I use that has web -based support forums, I almost always can find that the question I have has already been asked and answered by someone else, or that the problem I wish to report has already been supported. If you've ever tried searching in mailman archives to see if your question has already been posted answered, it is an exercise in total frustration. Another thing: once I'm on a web forum, if I have time I start poking through the categories to pick out topics of interest and i learn so much about the forum. And another thing: effectively moderated forums will have a FAQ section so that rather than the regular participants having to answer the same questions over and over they can simply point to the FAQ. For those who complain of the bandwidth and time entailed in loading web pages: There is this little thing called RSS, it's been around for a couple of years ;-) ... I subscribe to the RSS feed for web forums and downloading the subjects and summary of all the posts into a newsreader takes LESS bandwidth and time than receiving the same number of complete emails. Just click on the item of interest in your newsreader and you are taken *directly* to the web page with the post. Click the subscribe to this discussion box on that page, if you would like, and receive any further replies via email. Sure, leave the mailman lists up (who knows in how many places the instructions for subscribing have been posted) but also please start official TDF web-based support forums. I bet you'd find LibreOffice users who would volunteer to moderate one or two topic categories. (I raise my hand.) kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again
On 4/24/11 12:04 PM, Andy Brown wrote: adept techlists - kazar wrote: Sure, leave the mailman lists up (who knows in how many places the instructions for subscribing have been posted) but also please start official TDF web-based support forums. I bet you'd find LibreOffice users who would volunteer to moderate one or two topic categories. (I raise my hand.) The only thing I have to say is that a new forum is not needed. There are two long time forums already supporting LibO and a new LibO forum. The only thing that is needed/wanted is that the TDF/LibO support pages have links to them. Ah, OK, i just searched for libreoffice forum and found http://en.libreofficeforum.org/. Uncategorized, and I believe forums with categories are better learning tools. Plus, even though I started from the en. subdomain and selected English as my language on the home page, when I registered a new account the email instructions were: Witam kazaragain, Dziękujemy za rejestrację na LibreOfficeForum.org Twoja nazwa użytkownika: kazaragain Resetowanie hasła: http://libreofficeforum.org/user/password Jeżeli otrzymałeś ten e-mail przez pomyłkę, to znaczy, że ktoś próbował zarejestrować na Twój e-mail konto. Proszę w takim przypadku nie odpowiadać na e-mail - konta nie potwierdzone zostaną usunięte LibreOfficeForum.org Z pozdrowieniami, Zespół LibreOfficeForum.org http://en.libreofficeforum.org And I found another couple of similarly completely uncategorized forums. The forums at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ look much more promising, but are not these two products expected to diverge more and more? In my understanding LibreOffice is a new project that _started_ with OOo code but will be building separately. Or will changes made to LibreOffice be merged back into OOo? Obviously I am not a developer so I do not understand how these branches or forks work. I'm not asking to be educated here, that would be OT. Just saying that if LibreOffice is indeed a new product that will become less and less like OOo it ought to have its own official nice forum. Meanwhile sure, the link to http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ should be added prominently on the help page of the libreoffice site. Since I am not any kind of expert or web developer and have little understanding of how OS projects work, it would be silly for me to ask to be on the web team just to make one edit. I hope someone more appropriate for web team membership does that soon. thanks, kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again
On 4/24/11 2:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: What do you mean by Uncategorized? If you feel there is something that will make the forum better I am sure that it can be looked at by the management. good to hear. If you look at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ you will see topic categories. That is what I mean. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Forums... again
Also, Andy, please have a look at internationalizing the email one gets when one registers. It does not arrive in one's chosen language and, for me anyhow, I cannot read those instructions (in Czech or Polish or something, no insult intended to anyone's native language, most languages look the same to an uneducated American like me :-) ) thanks kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Forums... again
On 4/17/11 10:42 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: I do not use thos crapy forums, because I have to search to long for it. It is NON reliabel and slow. Do not belive I want to give a searchengine any infos about me, because I need help with a stupid program. Just wanted to briefly point out that your participation on these libreoffice mailing lists ARE being indexed by search engines http://www.google.com/search?q=michelle+konzack+libreoffice -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Where to find a ZIP for LibrOffice package ?
On 3/4/11 6:36 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 03/03/11 16:33, berthajm wrote: Hi there, I used to install oOo with the zip package for Windows. I'm bored with programs which add entries everywhere in the system and in the registry, Eh? How does adding entries in the Windows registry equate to BOREDOM? What a stupid comment... did you stop to consider that perhaps the choice of the word bored could have been simply a matter of less than optimal language translation? Perhaps berthajm meant tired of programs which add entries everywhere. I don't see this as being stupid and maybe your msg minus *your* final comment would have been more professional. kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: Looking for ONE person ( was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Looking for two people to act as sponsors of US TDF/LibreOffice fund raising event )
not in the position to fill the role of pledge-matching but just wanted to say this is a great idea. good luck! kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011
On 2/12/11 2:04 PM, Robert Derman wrote: Just so you all know, 4 GB of DDR3 RAM can now be purchased for $36. on the internet. In historical terms, that is indeed dirt cheap. and how much would it cost to have that RAM shipped to Ethiopia? and how many computers around the globe are still in use that have a max of far less ram than 4GB, even less than 1024MB? Also a 500 GB hard drive can now be purchased for less than $40., and a DVD burner for less than $20. Your ISP is in River Falls, Wisconson, U.S.A. The per capita GDP in the U.S.A. according to 2010 CIA World Factbook charts was $47,400 USD. (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2004rank.html) The per capita GDP in that chart for Ethiopia, for example (there are 15 countries with lower GDPs) is $1,000. Once you take into account the rich/poor divide that is rapidly growing wider in all non-socialized countries, the vast majority of Ethiopians live on far less than $1,000 per year. Visualize what kind of computer they might have, or might have access to in an internet cafe even in Addis Ababa. And if you put yourself in the skin of someone living in Ethiopia, Zimbabwe ($400 per-cap GDP), Cambodia ($2,000), Kenya ($1,600), India ($3,400) etc ... you'll see that spending $36 on RAM and $40 on a HD and $20 on a burner is truly out of reach for most of the world population. (and one must have a fairly recent model of computer to take advantage of cheap RAM and peripherals, as well) kazar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
