Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

2012-01-12 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 13:34:

 Italian user list (us...@it.libreoffice.org) seems to be broken or in
 some busy state: what's the matter?
 It may be since about January the 4th.
 [...]
 I just checked, and the list seems to work fine. Not many messages coming
 in, but the last one was from January 11th, sent by you:

To add on that: Looking at the logs: A couple of messages have been
rejected as SPAM, but judging from the sender-addresses
do-not-re...@select2gether.com or norespon...@yahoo.com.es or
mrcostaakdam...@msn.com those rejections seem to be legitimate.

But you might post a notice stating something if you receive a
message stating that your post was rejected as spam, please send again
and cc the postmaster (@documentfoundation.org) address to evaluate
the reason.

But to state it clearly: I as well as Florian see nothing wrong with
the list - it just is a more silent list - not unusual for it to not
receive a post for a few days.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

2012-01-12 Thread Carlo Strata

Il 12/01/2012 13:56, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto:

Hi *,

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org  wrote:

Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 13:34:


Italian user list (us...@it.libreoffice.org) seems to be broken or in
some busy state: what's the matter?
It may be since about January the 4th.

[...]
I just checked, and the list seems to work fine. Not many messages coming
in, but the last one was from January 11th, sent by you:

To add on that: Looking at the logs: A couple of messages have been
rejected as SPAM, but judging from the sender-addresses
do-not-re...@select2gether.com or norespon...@yahoo.com.es or
mrcostaakdam...@msn.com those rejections seem to be legitimate.

But you might post a notice stating something if you receive a
message stating that your post was rejected as spam, please send again
and cc the postmaster (@documentfoundation.org) address to evaluate
the reason.

But to state it clearly: I as well as Florian see nothing wrong with
the list - it just is a more silent list - not unusual for it to not
receive a post for a few days.

ciao
Christian




Thank you to Everyone, but (...) someone of us receive something like this:


 Messaggio originale 
Oggetto: Delivery Status Notification
Data: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 20:22:50 +0100
Mittente: Mail Delivery Service postmas...@cp-out8.libero.it
A: lcc...@infinito.it



 - These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail 
server:

us...@it.libreoffice.org; Failed; 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address)

Remote MTA bilbo.documentfoundation.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550 
5.7.1us...@it.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail 
appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached 
results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.



Whati do you think about?

Carlo

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Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [tdf-discuss] Italian user list seems to be broken or in busy state: what's the matter?

2012-01-12 Thread Carlo Strata

Il 12/01/2012 15:02, Florian Effenberger ha scritto:

Hi,

Carlo Strata wrote on 2012-01-12 14:18:


 Remote MTA bilbo.documentfoundation.org: SMTP diagnostic: 550
5.7.1us...@it.libreoffice.org: Recipient address rejected: Mail
appears to be spam or forged and is rejected due to policy. Using cached
results - retrying too fast. penalty: 30 seconds x 0 retries.


Whati do you think about?


this means that the mailserver trying to deliver messages has been put 
on several (external, non-TDF) blacklists, probably for sending out 
spam. It is mainly your provider's duty to fix this problem. We need 
to rely on blacklists for spam filtering.


In cases where your provider cannot help you, we can -temporarily- 
whitelist the sending server. So, first is to ping your provider and 
tell him he seems to be blacklisted due to spamming. In case that does 
not help, the next time you receive such a message, please send a 
direct note to postmas...@documentfoundation.org, with the date and 
time of the original message, and we will investigate.


Sorry for any inconveniences,
Florian


Thank you all!

It happens sometimes that libero.it smtp is seen as spammer. This time 
to Felix others to me. I'll keep in mind your suggestions.

I think too it's better to rely on blcklists for spam filtering! ;-)

Carlo


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