Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-18 Thread leif 

Hi Jenkins and all,
I absolutely agree that this is an issue we must pay attention to.

I might be able to find a partial sponsor but I must have some kind of 
commitment from others. First of all I must have a roadmap and 
estimates. I prioritized list of requirements is needed for the 
estimates. Did anyone think about how huge a project it is? Is it 
realistic to finalize this for the 3.6 release? Otherwise put it on the 
roadmap for 3.7.


Also I might have a new hacker, but he needs a "mentor". He will be 
partly paid by the company I work for.


We need to establish a project with engineers and designers.


Cheers,
Leif Lodahl
The Danish Team


On 16-04-2012 16:15, Charles Jenkins wrote:

Hi, all.

A few months ago, we had some good discussion about improvements to 
Writer's notes feature, in a thread titled "Enhancement Request: 
Comment Ranges"


As a result, Chrisoph added a feature request--
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38244

--and a place to vote for it--
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_38244_-_Enable_attaching_comments_to_document_text_ranges_in_Writer 



I'd appreciate if anyone who hasn't already done so would go vote for 
it, but the real reason I'm writing today is to ask for other ideas 
about how to encourage implementation of these enhancements.


Would a bug bounty work well for this type of feature? I'm nervous 
about doing that, because I wouldn't want to shell out money for 
features that don't actually work or don't end up making into the 
"real" release.


I'm going to have to do more editing in the future, and Microsoft Word 
2011 for the Mac is just a disaster with regard to comments, so I'm 
dying to have a version of LO that could replace it.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread adept techlists - kazar 

On 4/16/12 10:15 AM, Charles Jenkins wrote:

Hi, all.

A few months ago, we had some good discussion about improvements to 
Writer's notes feature, in a thread titled "Enhancement Request: 
Comment Ranges"


As a result, Chrisoph added a feature request--
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38244

--and a place to vote for it--
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_38244_-_Enable_attaching_comments_to_document_text_ranges_in_Writer 



I do not see how to vote. I created an account, I am logged in, I have 
clicked the validation link in the email that was sent, logged out and 
back in again, but I still see this on the View Source page:



You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set 
and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences 
.




I would love to see this feature added. IMO the main feature set that 
could stand improvement would be those things that facilitate 
collaborative editing.


kazar


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread adept techlists - kazar 

I wrote
I do not see how to vote. I created an account, I am logged in, I have 
clicked the validation link in the email that was sent, logged out and 
back in again, but I still see this on the View Source page:



You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:

You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set 
and validate your e-mail address through your user preferences 
.






NEVER MIND. The site (or Firefox) was being picky about the fact that I 
had confirmed my e-address in one browser tab, then reloaded the Vote 
for Enhancement page in another tab. Tab-distinct cookies is not 
something I've run into before, do they actually exist? Anyhow. I will 
add my vote now!


kazar

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread adept techlists - kazar 
REALLY NEVER MIND THIS TIME. I realize i put my comment under the 
"disagree" subheading. Easy to do for mere mortals who are not 
developers ... I scrolled to the bottom and added my comment, which then 
put it under some strange phrase that was surrounded by things like ' ' 
' and was hard to read so my eye skipped over that line.


Regular people like me shouldn't be allowed into wikis, LOL! The code 
just makes me cross-eyed. I'm glad some sort of voting mechanism has 
been set up, but i look forward to someday seeing feature-voting 
mechanism that just lets those allergic to plain-text coding click 
checkboxes and buttons. Glad I didn't do worse damage, apologies to all 
for the noise.


kazar

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread adept techlists - kazar 

On 4/17/12 1:43 AM, adept techlists - kazar wrote:
I would love to see this feature added. IMO the main feature set that 
could stand improvement would be those things that facilitate 
collaborative editing.
arrrgggh. OK i got myself registered on the wiki after some rigamarole. 
Went into Edit pane on that bug & added my comment in the same format as 
all the other ones that are there:


# myCommentHere 


... this is how I always have edited any wiki page.

Preview shows my comment but the page does not. I give up. But I do love 
the idea :-)


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread Cor Nouws 

Hi Charles,

Thanks for working on your ideas!

Charles Jenkins wrote (16-04-12 16:15)


Would a bug bounty work well for this type of feature? I'm nervous about
doing that, because I wouldn't want to shell out money for features that
don't actually work or don't end up making into the "real" release.


It's basically very simple: if it can be done, and a bounty (or just 
other actions/relations) will make a developer to work on the code, the 
feature will make it to LibreOffice. Core devs are very supportive to 
help new developers people start :-)


HTH & regards,

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[tdf-discuss] Getting Action

2012-04-16 Thread Charles Jenkins 

Hi, all.

A few months ago, we had some good discussion about improvements to Writer's notes 
feature, in a thread titled "Enhancement Request: Comment Ranges"

As a result, Chrisoph added a feature request--
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38244

--and a place to vote for it--
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_38244_-_Enable_attaching_comments_to_document_text_ranges_in_Writer

I'd appreciate if anyone who hasn't already done so would go vote for it, but 
the real reason I'm writing today is to ask for other ideas about how to 
encourage implementation of these enhancements.

Would a bug bounty work well for this type of feature? I'm nervous about doing that, 
because I wouldn't want to shell out money for features that don't actually work or don't 
end up making into the "real" release.

I'm going to have to do more editing in the future, and Microsoft Word 2011 for 
the Mac is just a disaster with regard to comments, so I'm dying to have a 
version of LO that could replace it.

--

Charles







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