Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-28 Thread e-letter
A hyperlink to gnuplot was provided
(http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.gnuplot.user/5655) but
as originally stated, how this would help is not understood.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *,

well, I give up. I only see tons of quoted text which doesn't help in
any way and neither get answers on my qestions nor the desired
links or information. No chance to go further.

Maybe it's an option for you to subscribe in normal mode to make some
conversation possible.

Sorry, no help possible as long I don't get the information and links I
asked for here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06370.html
and having You subscribed at t...@documentfoundation.org in both digest
and normal mode in order to stop spamming the discuss list with garbage.
Get information on subscription process by sending a mail to: 
test+h...@documentfoundation.org which sends you a mail containing the
info.

e-letter schrieb:

>This hyperlink shows email message
> digest...http://pastebin.com/HYdu0rCz

which unfortunatly doesn't help.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-27 Thread e-letter
Still blocked;

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-27 Thread e-letter
This message sent previously failed to be accepted my the mail server;
being resent in two parts. Part one of two

On 26/05/2011, e-letter  wrote:
>>e-letter schrieb:
>>
>>>A link would not show the behaviour;
>>
>>Thanks for your estimation. My intention was rather to have easy access
>>to information of that list and to an example where Your answer really
>>worked.
>>
> See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.gnuplot.user/5655,
> but this does not show anything.
>
>>As I spend enough time investigating Your problem
>>http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.test
>>I hoped to save the time of searching myself..
>>
>>>would be better to subscribe to gnuplot mailing list digest mode.
>>
>>A link where to do so was really great - allthough not helpful *for me*
>>as I don't have gmail running and I don't intend to do so.
>>
>>>When the 'reply' function is activated in gmail web-mail interface, the
>>>mail message format is retained.
>>
>>As told, I would like to see a succesful example of an answer sent by
>>You if You make possible to provide a link.
>>
>>By the way:
>>As workaround to send proper answers is "ordering" the desired mail
>>sending a mail to:
>>discuss+ge...@documentfoundation.org where "N" is the number of that
>>mail provided with the digest.
>>
>
> This does not seem to be an acceptable alternative method. The user
> would reply, change manually the recipient e-mail address and then
> wait for a response from the servers.
>
>>Additionally You're hereby invited to subscribe to
>>test+subscribe-dig...@documentfoundation.org
>>where we try to solve Your problem. We need your experience with digest
>>handling and your testing skills. ;o))
>>
> Subscription has been enabled.
>
> Below is copy of the digest mode message received
>

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-25 Thread e-letter
A link would not show the behaviour; would be better to subscribe to
gnuplot mailing list digest mode. When the 'reply' function is
activated in gmail web-mail interface, the mail message format is
retained.

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[tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-24 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *,

e-letter schrieb:
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM, e-letter  wrote:

[..]

>>> When can someone improve mailing list behaviour with web mail
>>> clients like gmail???

[..]

> The problem is that replies to messages cannot be performed directly.
> This behaviour does not occur in other mailing lists, e.g. gnuplot.

can You give a link to gnuplot list archive, where it worked?


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[tdf-discuss] Problematic digest mail answering - Buggy mailclient? (was: Paid Developers)

2011-05-15 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi e-letter, *,

e-letter schrieb:
>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:36 PM, e-letter  wrote:

[..]

>>> When can someone improve mailing list behaviour with web mail
>>> clients like gmail???

Well I did some testing. Might be it's a good Idea to find the reason
*before* declaring the mailing list software the culprit ;o)).

Look here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/test@documentfoundation.org/msg00118.html

>> Sorry, but what do you mean?
>> Obviously the mailinglist has no influence whatsoever how a webmail
>> or regular mailclient behaves.

> Is this true? Surely different mailing list manager software will
> function differently?

>>> Even for this e-mail digest, the reply function results
>>> in deletion of the original message content, apart from the text
>>> shown above. This means a text editor has to be used...:(

.. Which is the case anyway - even if provided by the mail client
software :o))

>> Sorry, please be more descriptive. That mail (#6131) is this one:
>> 
http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg06225.html
>> http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg06096.html

> A digest message is received
> Opening the message shows all of the content
> After activating the 'reply' function, the reply text box does not
> contain the original digest message content

As written in testmails - Thunderbird also makes trouble regarding this
- 4 Year old kmail doesn't. ==> Bug??

[..]

> The problem is that replies to messages cannot be performed directly.
> This behaviour does not occur in other mailing lists, e.g. gnuplot.

So might be they provide digest mails in a gmail more digestible manner
- i.e. not base64 encoded?

But as long as nobody claims base64 encoded mailcontent beeing improper
mail handling, this is buggy behaviour of the client software and should
be reported as Bug to the software vendor.


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