Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
2011/2/21 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 02/20/2011 07:39 AM, M Henri Day wrote: I recently had occasion to reinstall 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10 (n b, not because of a problem in Ubuntu itself, but because I replaced Windows Vista with Windows 7 on the Windows side of this dual-boot machine and thereafter failed in my attempts to restore GRUB2) and after doing so, noticed that no matter what I tried, I was unable to get SCIM to import CJK languages into a Writer text. Same problem, of course, when using OOo ; I'm using the latest (Swedish) 3.3 version in both cases. SCIM works fine with other applications on Ubuntu, like the gedit text editor or Gmail's compose. In contrast to the situation on Ubuntu, I have no problem using the Microsoft IMEs to import these languages into LO or OOo texts. However, I don't want to be forced to run Windows 7 in order to write, e g, a Chinese or Japanese text in a LO or OOo document. Is it possible to get SCIM and LO to play nice with each other and in that event, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to go about doing so ?... Henri Perhaps try iBus instead? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus NoOp, thanks for your suggestion. Alas, I found myself unable to get IBus to work ; for example, after installing IBus according to the instructions on the Ubuntu Community page and adding Chinese and Japan, I didn't find «IBus Preferences» under «System» → «Preferences», nor did «Ctrl + Space» start IBus in, e g, LibreOffice, despite my having selected «ibus» as my keyboard input method under «System» → «Administration» → «Language Support». So I'm still trying to get SCIM to work. The thing that surprised me with respect to Christian's advice above to set SCIM as my «global default» was that I thought I had already done so ; i e, I had edited my profile under /etc by adding the following : # SCIM export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' export GTK_IM_MODULE=scim export XIM_PROGRAM=scim -d export QT_IM_MODULE=scim scim -d I had also ensured that the following lines appeared in /etc/scim/global : /SupportedUnicodeLocales = sv_SE.utf8,en_US.UTF-8. Previously, these measures have sufficed to make SCIM work with OOo/LO What next ?... Henri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
Hi Henri, On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:18 AM, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/21 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 02/20/2011 07:39 AM, M Henri Day wrote: The thing that surprised me with respect to Christian's advice above to set SCIM as my «global default» was that I thought I had already done so ; i e, I had edited my profile under /etc by adding the following : # SCIM export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' export GTK_IM_MODULE=scim export XIM_PROGRAM=scim -d export QT_IM_MODULE=scim scim -d The profile is only used for interactive/login shells, i.e. when you open a terminal and launch LO/OOo from there it is applied, but when running it from the menu it is not used at all. What next ?... As mentioned earlier: Modify the launchers (the different soffice scripts you already cited - those are shell scripts that setup some environment variables and then launch the binary) Or add it to your display-manager's set of default environment variables. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
On 02/21/2011 04:18 PM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/21 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 02/20/2011 07:39 AM, M Henri Day wrote: I recently had occasion to reinstall 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10 (n b, not because of a problem in Ubuntu itself, but because I replaced Windows Vista with Windows 7 on the Windows side of this dual-boot machine and thereafter failed in my attempts to restore GRUB2) and after doing so, noticed that no matter what I tried, I was unable to get SCIM to import CJK languages into a Writer text. Same problem, of course, when using OOo ; I'm using the latest (Swedish) 3.3 version in both cases. SCIM works fine with other applications on Ubuntu, like the gedit text editor or Gmail's compose. In contrast to the situation on Ubuntu, I have no problem using the Microsoft IMEs to import these languages into LO or OOo texts. However, I don't want to be forced to run Windows 7 in order to write, e g, a Chinese or Japanese text in a LO or OOo document. Is it possible to get SCIM and LO to play nice with each other and in that event, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to go about doing so ?... Henri Perhaps try iBus instead? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus NoOp, thanks for your suggestion. Alas, I found myself unable to get IBus to work ; for example, after installing IBus according to the instructions on the Ubuntu Community page and adding Chinese and Japan, I didn't find «IBus Preferences» under «System» → «Preferences», nor did «Ctrl + Space» start IBus in, e g, LibreOffice, despite my having selected «ibus» as my keyboard input method under «System» → «Administration» → «Language Support». So I'm still trying to get SCIM to work. The thing that surprised me with respect to Christian's advice above to set SCIM as my «global default» was that I thought I had already done so ; i e, I had edited my profile under /etc by adding the following : # SCIM export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM' export GTK_IM_MODULE=scim export XIM_PROGRAM=scim -d export QT_IM_MODULE=scim scim -d I had also ensured that the following lines appeared in /etc/scim/global : /SupportedUnicodeLocales = sv_SE.utf8,en_US.UTF-8. Previously, these measures have sufficed to make SCIM work with OOo/LO Henri, SCIM is AFAIK really outdated. IBus is certainly the better choice. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, 32-bit hence things might be a bit different. I got IBus to work pretty easily by adding it at System - Preferences - Startup Applications. After restarting the desktop you should have an IBus tool in the system tray. In general, it might be easier to get help at the IBus user forum: http://groups.google.com/group/ibus-user?pli=1. I guess there should also be resources with Ubuntu handling that kind of topics. Last but not least the forum of the Beijing Linux User Group should also be worth a try: http://www.beijinglug.org/index.php?option=com_kunenaview=listcatcatid=0func=listcatItemid=138 (registration required). Best regards, Peter -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
Hi Peter, On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 02/21/2011 04:18 PM, M Henri Day wrote: SCIM is AFAIK really outdated. SCIM works fine, worked fine for the past years. IBus is certainly the better choice. There have been so many better choices already that really fucked up. pulseaudio (now, after years of betterness its becoming to be usable, i.e. supported by the user-facing stuff), the better, improved Mail-merge wizard in OOo/LO, device-kit power (that is too stupid to recognize battery/AC plug status, a stuff that both acpi and hal don't have any problem with, better gdm that in turn means loosing the fast-user-switch applet, etc. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
On 02/21/2011 12:18 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/21 NoOp ... Perhaps try iBus instead? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus NoOp, thanks for your suggestion. Alas, I found myself unable to get IBus to work ; for example, after installing IBus according to the instructions on the Ubuntu Community page and adding Chinese and Japan, I didn't find «IBus Preferences» under «System» → «Preferences», nor did «Ctrl + Space» start IBus in, e g, LibreOffice, despite my having selected «ibus» as my keyboard input method under «System» → «Administration» → «Language Support». Log out back in, or: $ killall gnome-panel System|Preferences|Keyboard Input Methods ... Note: you really should move this over to the user list: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ us...@libreoffice.org: User support list for LibreOffice users needing help with a problem. this list: discuss@documentfoundation.org: Mailing list for general discussions about The Document Foundation. On the user list see the thread: LibreOffice with iBus on linux. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
On 02/21/2011 01:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Peter, On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Peter Junge snipped wrote: On 02/21/2011 04:18 PM, M Henri Day wrote: SCIM is AFAIK really outdated. SCIM works fine, worked fine for the past years. ... http://sourceforge.net/projects/scim/files/scim/ == 2009. http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/scim/index.php?title=Main_Page SCIM platform project is suffered from lack of working members. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/desktop-karmic-input-methods http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus It might work fine, but Peter is correct, scim is really outdated. Yes, it's maintained in Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scim but lots of older working packages are still maintained. Also note that scim is only available from the universe repository. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus has been available since karmic and in the main repository. The good part is that you have choices :-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10
On 02/20/2011 07:39 AM, M Henri Day wrote: I recently had occasion to reinstall 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10 (n b, not because of a problem in Ubuntu itself, but because I replaced Windows Vista with Windows 7 on the Windows side of this dual-boot machine and thereafter failed in my attempts to restore GRUB2) and after doing so, noticed that no matter what I tried, I was unable to get SCIM to import CJK languages into a Writer text. Same problem, of course, when using OOo ; I'm using the latest (Swedish) 3.3 version in both cases. SCIM works fine with other applications on Ubuntu, like the gedit text editor or Gmail's compose. In contrast to the situation on Ubuntu, I have no problem using the Microsoft IMEs to import these languages into LO or OOo texts. However, I don't want to be forced to run Windows 7 in order to write, e g, a Chinese or Japanese text in a LO or OOo document. Is it possible to get SCIM and LO to play nice with each other and in that event, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to go about doing so ?... Henri Perhaps try iBus instead? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
