[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim Le 2013-02-21 10:11, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : The persona designs that that you link to are stored in the /gallery/persona/ folder. How do you access them, or switch back to them, without needing to go back to the Firefox site and re-link to them? It doesn't look like we can re-link back to previous personas. I tried using all the different URL settings but no go. I'll add a bug for this. I see not options there for that. Also, you do have a gallery option to create a new Theme, but you are not able to go to the hidden /gallery/ folder for persona files on your system already. Actually, I do not know what LO means by New Theme in the Gallery option. Is it just a new set of images or is it something else. In this case, you are working with the Tools-Gallery files. Themes means the name of the file folders that hold the same types of images. For example a Theme could be cars, or, people, or, vivulas or ... well you get the point. LibreOffice calls these types of file folders Themes. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Le 2013-02-22 15:50, Marc Paré a écrit : Hi Tim Le 2013-02-21 10:11, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : The persona designs that that you link to are stored in the /gallery/persona/ folder. How do you access them, or switch back to them, without needing to go back to the Firefox site and re-link to them? It doesn't look like we can re-link back to previous personas. I tried using all the different URL settings but no go. I'll add a bug for this. I see not options there for that. Also, you do have a gallery option to create a new Theme, but you are not able to go to the hidden /gallery/ folder for persona files on your system already. Actually, I do not know what LO means by New Theme in the Gallery option. Is it just a new set of images or is it something else. In this case, you are working with the Tools-Gallery files. Themes means the name of the file folders that hold the same types of images. For example a Theme could be cars, or, people, or, vivulas or ... well you get the point. LibreOffice calls these types of file folders Themes. Cheers, Marc Oops! I forgot to put in the bug that I filed: Bugzilla – Bug 61311 Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi KJ Le 2013-02-21 01:45, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit : Hi Marc, Am 21.02.2013 07:30, schrieb Marc Paré: * ability of designer to select the menu font colour https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61206 Maybe a duplicate to https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60542 I marked it as duplicate. If it isn't turn it back. Thanks! Yes it is. I didn't see it. BTW ... when a bug is marked as duplicate, do devs look at it too, it think the explanation on the duplicate may explain more the problem. Or should I just copy the description to 60542? Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/20/2013 11:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-19 15:20, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Howmany users do you want messing about with the program folders and not just the user profile ones? I does not matter to me who it is, that is not something we should have our users do. It would be better to have the themes and persona files placed inthe user profile folder [ .config/libreOffice/4/ ] instead of the /opt/. . . program folders needing root/admin passwords. So, do the command: dolphin. . ., you can through the terminal make the file manager work as the rootuser? Did not know that. I wasn't expecting our users doing this, just thought you were not aware ... As for placing the personas into the .config, totally agree. Marc The persona designs that that you link to are stored in the /gallery/persona/ folder. How do you access them, or switch back to them, without needing to go back to the Firefox site and re-link to them? I see not options there for that. Also, you do have a gallery option to create a new Theme, but you are not able to go to the hidden /gallery/ folder for persona files on your system already. Actually, I do not know what LO means by New Theme in the Gallery option. Is it just a new set of images or is it something else. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Le 2013-02-19 15:20, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Howmany users do you want messing about with the program folders and not just the user profile ones? I does not matter to me who it is, that is not something we should have our users do. It would be better to have the themes and persona files placed inthe user profile folder [ .config/libreOffice/4/ ] instead of the /opt/. . . program folders needing root/admin passwords. So, do the command: dolphin. . ., you can through the terminal make the file manager work as the rootuser? Did not know that. I wasn't expecting our users doing this, just thought you were not aware ... As for placing the personas into the .config, totally agree. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim, Le 2013-02-18 20:09, Marc Paré a écrit : Would you like me to submit some bugs for these? There are quite a few and the devs are interested in making this work as it get a lot a attention. So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61205 * ability of designer to select the menu font colour https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61206 * transparency issues where the icon does not show properly if the background is NOT white https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61208 Marc Done. I didn't add a bug about the persona not making use of the footer option as I can't really see where the footer would fit on my LibreOffice4 page. There just doesn't seem to be any space for it. Not unless my settings have removed a bar, but I seem to have the regular bar on the bottom. Anyway, let me know if you think the use of the footer should/could be filed as a bug. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Marc, Am 21.02.2013 07:30, schrieb Marc Paré: * ability of designer to select the menu font colour https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=61206 Maybe a duplicate to https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=60542 I marked it as duplicate. If it isn't turn it back. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/18/2013 08:09 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-18 18:51, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the FF Persona designs call for. So if the menu color is white in Firefox, LO will still use the black menu color. That really messes up people who want a dark color background that works well with FF. So you reported the bug? Bug#? ;) No I have not. I am still dealing with a few things on my end that is more time-sensitive than trying to figure out what is neededfor a bug report. If you want to know briefly. . . Persona/Theme designs include font color specifications where the designer selects the right menu font color for the background. ALSO, it appears that some of the toobars have icons that have transparencyissues, where the icon does not show properly if the background is not WHITE. So that is another issue. Then there is the fact the the persona/theme includes a footer image, but it appears that LO either does not use thatfooter or does not do it properly. There may be more there as well, but I just installed LO 4.0 onthe desktop I do the design work at and just got some various persona/themes submitted/approved that have different background colors and text colors. Try this theme design. . . http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/494461 It works well if you have the white menu text that will show up in Firefox. But the text is black with Ubuntu's 64-bit or Win7 64-bit versions of LO4.0.0.3. So I am still finding things that could be bugs or something. Maybe the developers had not even thought about changing the menu text color. Then there is the in-ability for testing the theme in LO like FF allows you to do. That is either a good idea or bad one. You can choose either way and be right. Would you like me to submit some bugs for these? There are quite a few and the devs are interested in making this work as it get a lot a attention. So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? * ability of designer to select the menu font colour * transparency issues where the cison does not show properly if the background is NOT white * does not show footer images Are there anymore? Marc Please do. The font color is the biggest issue. There are too many persona/themes that need to use a light font color. The next issue it the icons using transparent backgrounds instead of white. Anything else is a plus. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim, Am 19.02.2013 15:43, schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P: On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? I don't know. I asked Jan (the developer) and he showed me this way. And so I tested it in Win8 and XP. Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? I don't know. I have neither Linux nor Mac. But I think so, especially for Linux. Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? The path where you installed LibO 4. Win8: Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4.0\program\edition -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
It was suggested that someone create a wiki page that shows the step by step creation and use of a persona/theme for the LO users. I might even take a shot at it. Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. Still there is not documentation, anywhere, about the pre-installed Persona that is the default after you install LO 4.0.x. So, the only info is using the ones on the Firefox gallery of themes and personas [personae]. That is what I am doing. I create these designs using the FF process and submit it to their gallery system. There seems to be a bug that does not pick up the specified font color [not just a header image] for the background image, there have been some users that are using darker backgrounds that use light text for Firefox and Thunderbird, but does not show up using those designs with LO 4.0.0.3. So there may be some need to do more than just place a header image in a undocumented folder, to get everything working. I just think that someone just forgot about the menu color issues that may come up with some backgrounds. Also, some of the toolbar icons have their backgrounds set as transparent, instead of white, so they have a hard time being seem on any non-white background color. Well, that can be fixed by just making sure these icons are saved without a transparency or replace the transparent background with white. That is a hassle, but it can be done simply, as long as you have access to all of the icon files. Of course some extension add icons to your toolbar menu[s], so their authors will need to make their icons with non-transparent backgrounds. But, hey, this is a new design element and it will take a few versions to get it all worked out and bug free. On 02/19/2013 10:33 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Tim, Am 19.02.2013 15:43, schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P: On 02/19/2013 02:43 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote: Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. Where is the documentation for that? I don't know. I asked Jan (the developer) and he showed me this way. And so I tested it in Win8 and XP. Does it work for Windows, Linux, and Mac? I don't know. I have neither Linux nor Mac. But I think so, especially for Linux. Where is the libo/program folder on Ubuntu and Win7? The path where you installed LibO 4. Win8: Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4.0\program\edition -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Tim Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. I know you should not do this often, but, if I have to edit anything or move files in/out or create file folders at root level, I do the following: * open console (Konsole) * do the command: su - * type in root password * do the command: dolphin or konqueror * YOU ARE NOW IN ROOT AND DOING DOLPHIN IN ROOT ! * BE AWARE THAT YOU MAY BORK YOUR SETUP IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL * create and transfer the files that you wish Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : I just think that someone just forgot about the menu color issues that may come up with some backgrounds. Also, some of the toolbar icons have their backgrounds set as transparent, instead of white, so they have a hard time being seem on any non-white background color. Well, that can be fixed by just making sure these icons are saved without a transparency or replace the transparent background with white. That is a hassle, but it can be done simply, as long as you have access to all of the icon files. Of course some extension add icons to your toolbar menu[s], so their authors will need to make their icons with non-transparent backgrounds. But, hey, this is a new design element and it will take a few versions to get it all worked out and bug free. +1 Nice of you to give us samples to work with and to help with improving it. Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
On 02/19/2013 01:25 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Tim Le 2013-02-19 12:06, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : Since the libo/program/edition/header.jpg info is not part of the current documentation, maybe someone could write up the text on how to use that option. I know that you cannot create a new folder in the /program/ folder, since it is locked and needs a root password to create it. So you cannot do this with you file manager in Linux. I know it might be easier with a Windows users. I know you should not do this often, but, if I have to edit anything or move files in/out or create file folders at root level, I do the following: * open console (Konsole) * do the command: su - * type in root password * do the command: dolphin or konqueror * YOU ARE NOW IN ROOT AND DOING DOLPHIN IN ROOT ! * BE AWARE THAT YOU MAY BORK YOUR SETUP IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL * create and transfer the files that you wish Cheers, Marc Howmany users do you want messing about with the program folders and not just the user profile ones? I does not matter to me who it is, that is not something we should have our users do. It would be better to have the themes and persona files placed inthe user profile folder [ .config/libreOffice/4/ ] instead of the /opt/. . . program folders needing root/admin passwords. So, do the command: dolphin. . ., you can through the terminal make the file manager work as the rootuser? Did not know that. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Le 2013-02-18 18:51, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : On 02/18/2013 04:08 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-18 2:00 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I just found out that LibreOffice does not use the font color that the FF Persona designs call for. So if the menu color is white in Firefox, LO will still use the black menu color. That really messes up people who want a dark color background that works well with FF. So you reported the bug? Bug#? ;) No I have not. I am still dealing with a few things on my end that is more time-sensitive than trying to figure out what is neededfor a bug report. If you want to know briefly. . . Persona/Theme designs include font color specifications where the designer selects the right menu font color for the background. ALSO, it appears that some of the toobars have icons that have transparencyissues, where the icon does not show properly if the background is not WHITE. So that is another issue. Then there is the fact the the persona/theme includes a footer image, but it appears that LO either does not use thatfooter or does not do it properly. There may be more there as well, but I just installed LO 4.0 onthe desktop I do the design work at and just got some various persona/themes submitted/approved that have different background colors and text colors. Try this theme design. . . http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/494461 It works well if you have the white menu text that will show up in Firefox. But the text is black with Ubuntu's 64-bit or Win7 64-bit versions of LO4.0.0.3. So I am still finding things that could be bugs or something. Maybe the developers had not even thought about changing the menu text color. Then there is the in-ability for testing the theme in LO like FF allows you to do. That is either a good idea or bad one. You can choose either way and be right. Would you like me to submit some bugs for these? There are quite a few and the devs are interested in making this work as it get a lot a attention. So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? * ability of designer to select the menu font colour * transparency issues where the cison does not show properly if the background is NOT white * does not show footer images Are there anymore? Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: creation of a Persona Gallery Page on LO page system
Hi Marc, Tim, all, Am 19.02.2013 02:09, schrieb Marc Paré: So these would all be individual bug submissions: * ability to test (locally) your designs? That is easily to do: - create a folder in libo/program called edition - put in a jpg called header.jpg - switch on the option Pre-Installed Persona (if available) in the option Personalization That's it. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
