Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Pedro,

I slightly reorder your mail -

you wrote:
> Exactly. That is something the BoD has to decide. After all the
> quality of LibreOffice should be the BoD's main concern IMO...
> 
Quality surely should be a concern to all of us. But I disagree that
it should be _the_ overall main concern (if that's what you said) -
there are definitely other equally important aspects, such as
features, interoperability, usability, code quality, growing the
community etc etc.

> > [download page]
>
> No. There is no wording that can change the fact that TDF is
> recommending version 3.6.1 If it wasn't the Large Buttons should
> be pointing to version 3.5.6 (and soon to version 3.5.7)
>
I see what you mean. It is though highly demotivating for developers
to have their nice new version with all those nifty features hidden.

So this will need UX input and some hacking at the download page
code, possibly something resembling the old page, still used here:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ - but nicer?

Would you be willing to get this ball rolling?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Pedro schrieb:

Hi,

I agree with Thorsten and others that too easy access to old versions 
(what might contain security issues) is risky. But IMHO in the FAQ a 
"Where can I get old versions" with hints concerning possible risks 
would be appropriate.


CU

Rainer

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Thorsten Behrens]

Pedro wrote:
> This is something that the BoD needs to decide. If the Lifecycle
> has no value, then stop wasting time and resources on maintaining
> the previous branch. If it makes sense then don't recommend the
> new branch until it reaches x.x.3
> 
This seems ultimately to be still an issue of how
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ is worded, right? Also please
bear in mind that sweeping x.x.0-x.x.2 [1] under a rug will not
necessarily make the experience a better one, once we switch users
to x.x.3 subsequently.

If the answer to the above question is yes, and you're willing to
invest effort towards improving it, let's move this over to the
website list. Doing one thing without stopping to do the other
should be the aim.

[1] I would not take the "x.x.3 will be recommended" as the law -
maybe x.x.2 is already good enough, maybe only x.x.4 is.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Pedro schrieb:


I think that for testing and because of regressions it would be good that
the Portable version would match all stable versions of each branch.


Hi,

I think so, too, no idea why that version is missing.

You find a good overview concerning existing Portable versions here:

(please also see )

As far as I know the are all those versions are multilingual.

Best regards


Rainer

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Thorsten Behrens]

Pedro wrote:
> Better yet, it would be good if the last version of each branch
> was kept available at the LO download site.
> 
All old versions are available under
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ -
we just don't advertize that widely, they have less features, more
bugs, known security issues etc. ;)

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Portable

[Jonathan Aquilina]

Christian you mentioned that the portable version is hosted on the TDF
mirror. It can also be found on www.portableapps.com

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Pedro  wrote:

> Hi Christian
>
>
> Christian Lohmaier (klammer) wrote
> > Only insofar that Portable versions are hosten on our mirror
> > infrastructure and are advertized/available on our download pages.
> >
> > They are not produced by TDF itself.
>
> Thanks. That is what I thought.
>
>
> Christian Lohmaier (klammer) wrote
> >> Shouldn't there be an equivalent Portable version for each stable
> >> release?
> >
> > Portable releases always come a little after the original release, but
> > if there is one, it is added...
>
> My question is related to a problem I run into today while opening an odt
> created in 3.5.x and that won't open in 3.6.2.1
> There is no Portable version of 3.5.6 only of 3.5.5  (released in July
> 12th)
> However version 3.6.1 is already available (released in Sept 11th)
>
> This leads me to think that the guys creating the Portable version are
> possibly going to ignore version 3.5.7 (which is currently in rc1) in the
> same way that they never released version 3.4.6
>
> Of course any user can update the Portable install manually but it is not a
> simple trivial task.
>
> I think that for testing and because of regressions it would be good that
> the Portable version would match all stable versions of each branch. Better
> yet, it would be good if the last version of each branch was kept available
> at the LO download site.
>
> Just a suggestion for TDF to consider.
>
> Regards,
> Pedro
>
>
>
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