Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-26 Thread Justin Carter
On 9/26/06, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did so a few days ago. They didn't pick up the story.
>
> On 9/25/06, Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > I'd suggest getting a Visual jQeury Magazine article on Ajaxian.com.

Oh well, I've submitted an email to them as well, trying again can't
hurt :) And Visual jQuery Magazine is DEFINITELY worthy of a front
page article. I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't want to run
with it.

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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Matt Stith
I know ajaxian has a lot of readers, when i figured out the mooglets API, ajaxian linked to it, and i just about tripled my hits for the days that that article was on the front page.On 9/25/06, 
Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/26/06, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final> push, I'd be eternally grateful.
I'd suggest getting a Visual jQeury Magazine article on Ajaxian.com. Ithink it has a reasonable amount of readers. You can use thecontribute news link on the top right hand corner of the front page:
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Yehuda Katz
I did so a few days ago. They didn't pick up the story.On 9/25/06, Justin Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:On 9/26/06, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final> push, I'd be eternally grateful.I'd suggest getting a Visual jQeury Magazine article on 
Ajaxian.com. Ithink it has a reasonable amount of readers. You can use thecontribute news link on the top right hand corner of the front page:http://www.ajaxian.com/
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Justin Carter
On 9/26/06, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final
> push, I'd be eternally grateful.

I'd suggest getting a Visual jQeury Magazine article on Ajaxian.com. I
think it has a reasonable amount of readers. You can use the
contribute news link on the top right hand corner of the front page:

http://www.ajaxian.com/

cheers,
Justin

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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Dave Benjamin
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, Yehuda Katz wrote:

> Good fyi. I'd quibble about the front-page of the programming section. 
> I'm sure there are *some* people that check sections of interest to 
> them. May not be a whole lot of people, but there are certainly *some.* 
> Am I missing something?

I get the programming RSS feeds for both reddit and digg. However, I find 
the digg feed rather boring, and the articles there to be of lesser 
quality on average. So, while I will possibly glance at an article on the 
programming digg, if it makes it to the front of the programming reddit 
I've probably read it.

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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Yehuda Katz
On 9/25/06, John Resig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front page> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please digg> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).
You do realize that that's not how Digg works, right? Stories get duggand once they reach a certain threshold, they hit the frontpage. Thisis the only step that matters, because it'll then hit people's RSS
readers - and hit the people who simply refresh the homepage all day.After that, it doesn't matter what you do - at all. A couple facts:- Once a story is off the frontpage, no one reads it anymore.- Giving a story more votes won't keep it on the frontpage for longer
(reddit does this, not digg)- Being on the frontpage of the programming section has no consequenceone way or another.Just FYI.Good fyi. I'd quibble about the front-page of the programming section. I'm sure there are *some* people that check sections of interest to them. May not be a whole lot of people, but there are certainly *some.* Am I missing something?
Also, how does Digg figure out how long to keep something on the front page? Does it simply get pushed off once something else gets pushed on? That seems a bit strange.
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread John Resig
> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front page
> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please digg
> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).

You do realize that that's not how Digg works, right? Stories get dugg
and once they reach a certain threshold, they hit the frontpage. This
is the only step that matters, because it'll then hit people's RSS
readers - and hit the people who simply refresh the homepage all day.

After that, it doesn't matter what you do - at all. A couple facts:
- Once a story is off the frontpage, no one reads it anymore.
- Giving a story more votes won't keep it on the frontpage for longer
(reddit does this, not digg)
- Being on the frontpage of the programming section has no consequence
one way or another.

Just FYI.

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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Dan Atkinson

Here's the proposed title for issue two:

BREAKING NEWS: MOST AMAZING FREE NON-RIAA WEB 2.0/AJAX MAGAZINE EVER WITH
PHOTOS!

The use of specific words are well known to SEO folks now. A good freelancer
can make hundreds of dollars a day by digging stories to the front page.

References:
http://www.gadzooki.com/the-economic-value-of-a-front-page-digg/
http://digg.com/tech_news/Nano-mario_wants_his_amazing_RIAA_photos_
http://www.xedant.com/researches/top_422_digg_com_attention_grabbing_words.php


David Olinsky wrote:
> 
> Yehuda, next time put a combination of 'Most Amazing Video Ever!',  
> 'Ruby', 'Free', 'Ajax' and 'OSX' and you'll never move off the front  
> page :)
> 
> Again, nice work on the magazine.
> 
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Yehuda Katz
We should work up a digg-strategy based on the new digg algorithm. I was quite happy about the diggs, but I know it could have been a lot better.At some point, I'll do a site redesign, and we can digg that up.
-- YehudaOn 9/25/06, David Olinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yehuda, next time put a combination of 'Most Amazing Video Ever!','Ruby', 'Free', 'Ajax' and 'OSX' and you'll never move off the frontpage :)Again, nice work on the magazine.---DavidQuoting Yehuda Katz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> Sorry to be doing this, but I just want to try one last round of promotion.>> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front page
> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please digg> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).>> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Andy Matthews
Well hopefully, by that time the magazine will have taken off on it's own
and it won't be a problem.

Good point though.



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I should point out that, after Digg's recent changes, it'll quite easily
spot
'cartels' which regularly vote on the same stories.

If the same people digg the same articles, then what'll happen is that, by
issue 3 - 6 or so, our votes will be nigh on worthless as they will be
reweighted to prevent 'digg-bombing', and simply won't go very far to the
front page.


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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Will Jessup
David,

Add "top 10" and "bush" to that list.

Will
> Yehuda, next time put a combination of 'Most Amazing Video Ever!',  
> 'Ruby', 'Free', 'Ajax' and 'OSX' and you'll never move off the front  
> page :)
>
> Again, nice work on the magazine.
>
> --
> -David
>
> Quoting Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>> Sorry to be doing this, but I just want to try one last round of promotion.
>>
>> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front page
>> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please digg
>> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).
>>
>> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final
>> push, I'd be eternally grateful.
>>
>> -- 
>> Yehuda Katz
>> Web Developer | Wycats Designs
>> (ph)  718.877.1325
>> 
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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread David Olinsky
Yehuda, next time put a combination of 'Most Amazing Video Ever!',  
'Ruby', 'Free', 'Ajax' and 'OSX' and you'll never move off the front  
page :)

Again, nice work on the magazine.

--
-David

Quoting Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Sorry to be doing this, but I just want to try one last round of promotion.
>
> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front page
> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please digg
> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).
>
> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final
> push, I'd be eternally grateful.
>
> -- 
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> Web Developer | Wycats Designs
> (ph)  718.877.1325



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Re: [jQuery] Digg push

2006-09-25 Thread Dan Atkinson

I should point out that, after Digg's recent changes, it'll quite easily spot
'cartels' which regularly vote on the same stories.

If the same people digg the same articles, then what'll happen is that, by
issue 3 - 6 or so, our votes will be nigh on worthless as they will be
reweighted to prevent 'digg-bombing', and simply won't go very far to the
front page.
 

wycats wrote:
> 
> Sorry to be doing this, but I just want to try one last round of
> promotion.
> 
> The Visual jQuery Magazine is about to fall off the bottom of the front
> page
> of the Programming Category. To try to forestall that for a bit, please
> digg
> it if you haven't already (and ask your friends to do so as well!).
> 
> You guys have put Visual jQuery on the map. If you can help with one final
> push, I'd be eternally grateful.
> 
> -- 
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> Web Developer | Wycats Designs
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