Re: [discuss] Suggestions for Bioinformatics Student Group Development

2018-10-22 Thread kevin.stachelek via discuss
Thanks Anita and Sarah, 

I'll take a look and share with my group!
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Re: [discuss] Suggestions for Bioinformatics Student Group Development

2018-10-22 Thread Sarah Stevens via discuss
Hi Kevin,Love all the resources that have been mentioned.  Thanks Anita for
mentioning our paper.  Let me know if you want to talk more about it, Kevin or
anyone. Best,Sarahhttp://sarahlrstevens.info/  





On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 1:08 AM, Schurch, A.C. a.c.schu...@umcutrecht.nl  wrote:
Hi Kevin,
You might also find this preprint useful: 

Building a local community of practice in scientific programming for Life
ScientistsSarah L.R.  Stevens, Mateusz  Kuzak, Carlos  Martinez, Aurelia  Moser,
 Petra M.  Bleeker, Marc  Galland  bioRxiv 265421; doi:  
https://doi.org/10.1101/265421

Regards,
Anita




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Thanks very much Pariksheet,

I will contact my library and HPC team, and definitely look into using slack
(outside and during meetings) 

thanks for the links Phillip, It's nice to have some more thorough, fundamental
resources for planning the meetings. I have mostly found scattered links about
coding clubs via twitter (sometimes via your feed i think) 

Thanks!



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Re: [discuss] Suggestions for Bioinformatics Student Group Development

2018-10-18 Thread kevin.stachelek via discuss
Thanks very much Pariksheet,

I will contact my library and HPC team, and definitely look into using slack 
(outside and during meetings) 

thanks for the links Phillip, It's nice to have some more thorough, fundamental 
resources for planning the meetings. I have mostly found scattered links about 
coding clubs via twitter (sometimes via your feed i think) 

Thanks!
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Re: [discuss] Suggestions for Bioinformatics Student Group Development

2018-10-18 Thread Philipp Bayer via discuss
Hi Kevin

Some materials:

Mozilla runs Study Groups (where you can register your group too), they
have very good materials on running these:
https://science.mozilla.org/programs/studygroups/run

Amanda Miotto (also on this list?) has a handbook for running Hacky
Hours, these are similar in scope to what you're trying to do:
https://github.com/amandamiotto/HackyHourHandbook

I run the Hacky Hour here at UWA in Perth, some points:

- be careful of language, try not to be offputting/lecturing, be
welcoming and understanding - Greg's book Teaching Tech Together
summarises many good points: http://teachtogether.tech/en/ see
especially this chapter http://teachtogether.tech/en/motivation/

- be inclusive, try to not make it a 'boys' club nerd event' - it's much
harder to sustain a regular event if it's always the same 5 guys, they
won't be around forever. Different people will give you different
viewpoints - I'm always so happy when archaelogists come along to our
meetings! They got amazing problems I didn't know existed

- talk to your library, to your graduate school, your local HPC team,
they're happy to promote you, maybe to send people along too. There are
newsletters run by these organisations which are happy to include you.

- We have a state-wide Carpentries Facebook group which is useful to
spread information about upcoming events/meetups:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1798197997093258/

- take your time - we've been running the Hacky Hour here for more than
a year and we still get a week here or there where nobody comes because
of time pressures. That's part of it, too.

- maybe make a Twitter account? it's a good chance to show off pictures
and your members, so that potential members can see what the audience is
like (Nick Hamilton at https://twitter.com/hackyhourstluc?lang=en does
this VERY well). It's also a good place to summarise what you're looking
at in your regular meetings

hope this helps! there's also a hacky hour mailing list for hacky hour
coordinators, not sure whether that'll help: 
hacky-hour--coordinat...@googlegroups.com

Cheers
Philipp

On 10/19/18 11:49 AM, kevin.stachelek via discuss wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm part of a small student group at my university attempting to grow
> coding and data science capacity among students in the life sciences.
> I am interested in getting guidance on how to organize and sustain
> this kind of organization. I have experience and interests in
> bioinformatics, shell, R, and python.
>
> I have limited experience with the carpentries directly, but was
> guided here via a mentoring request. We hold somewhat weekly meetings
> at which a relatively experienced member presents on a given topic. We
> are alternating each semester focusing on python and then on R with
> some shell skills thrown in.
>
> I'm looking for suggestions to make our group more welcoming to
> newcomers and interesting for typical life sciences coding needs.
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [discuss] Suggestions for Bioinformatics Student Group Development

2018-10-18 Thread Pariksheet Nanda
Hi Kevin,

That's commendable; weekly meetings are a lot of work!  As far as getting
informal guidance, what been working for us at the University of
Connecticut is having chat groups.  Our bioinformatics core has a Slack
channel that's monitored by the core admins and the Cyber Security club has
Telegram chat groups where they also have undergrads interested in learning
the shell and other things.  The nice thing about chat media is newcomers
who need help with something can get a quick response and it's not as
formal as something like e-mail; if they are working on something and need
help they're not going to wait for an in-person meeting to happen some day
of the week to come get their questions answered.  Either way, sustaining
these types of things still needs interested and responsive people.

Aside from that, most people want structure.  It's hard to get people to
come sit around at a place in the hope of getting help from strangers; it's
easier for them to see a well thought out presentation or attend a hands-on
workshop.

Pariksheet

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:50 PM kevin.stachelek via discuss <
discuss@lists.carpentries.org> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I'm part of a small student group at my university attempting to grow
> coding and data science capacity among students in the life sciences. I am
> interested in getting guidance on how to organize and sustain this kind of
> organization. I have experience and interests in bioinformatics, shell, R,
> and python.
>
> I have limited experience with the carpentries directly, but was guided
> here via a mentoring request. We hold somewhat weekly meetings at which a
> relatively experienced member presents on a given topic. We are alternating
> each semester focusing on python and then on R with some shell skills
> thrown in.
>
> I'm looking for suggestions to make our group more welcoming to newcomers
> and interesting for typical life sciences coding needs.
>
> Thanks!
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