Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
Depending on the situation, some interfaces are allowing an entire table row to be a click target, giving color or other visual indication that the row has been toggled to a selected state. Allowing this action for multiple rows does seem an improvement over making users target a series of small check boxes. - Matt . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=32951 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
I don't claim to know all of the PC keyboard shortcuts. However, I'm aware of the traditional Shift + click and Ctrl + click to select multiple items. This behavior is used in applications like Microsoft Outlook and also in windows explorer to select multiple files. Yes, there is no visual clue or good affordance. It wouldn't have normally occurred to me to try shift+click in a table where the rows have check boxes because the natural tendency would be to directly select the check boxes. I am not sure if it was a conscious design decision or an artifact of the software implementation. Letting people know visually or at the least through help documents would benefit users. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Meredith Noble < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I had the exact same issue and sadly decided to go with the > > > standard checkbox approach, because my client's customers were already > > > used to that style of interaction, and because I couldn't come up with > > > anything else that worked well with the number of batch actions I had. > > > Couldn't you enable both so they can "learn" the interaction over time? > > The Hotmail model, yeah, absolutely. I just tried it out with Shift+Click > and Ctrl+Click and it's great; Fitt's Law at its best. But it never would > have occurred to me to try Shift+Clicking, and I never saw anything on the > interface that suggested it might work that way. How did you discover it, > Suba? > > If my client's developers weren't already going nuts, I might suggest it > now... but perhaps I'll save it for phase 2. :) > > I'd put in a little help bubble explaining the feature though. As soon as I > see checkboxes the idea of Shift+Clicking just doesn't enter my brain. > > Meredith > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
> > I had the exact same issue and sadly decided to go with the > > standard checkbox approach, because my client's customers were already > > used to that style of interaction, and because I couldn't come up with > > anything else that worked well with the number of batch actions I had. > Couldn't you enable both so they can "learn" the interaction over time? The Hotmail model, yeah, absolutely. I just tried it out with Shift+Click and Ctrl+Click and it's great; Fitt's Law at its best. But it never would have occurred to me to try Shift+Clicking, and I never saw anything on the interface that suggested it might work that way. How did you discover it, Suba? If my client's developers weren't already going nuts, I might suggest it now... but perhaps I'll save it for phase 2. :) I'd put in a little help bubble explaining the feature though. As soon as I see checkboxes the idea of Shift+Clicking just doesn't enter my brain. Meredith Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
On Sep 16, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Meredith Noble wrote: I had the exact same issue and sadly decided to go with the standard checkbox approach, because my client's customers were already used to that style of interaction, and because I couldn't come up with anything else that worked well with the number of batch actions I had. Couldn't you enable both so they can "learn" the interaction over time? Cheers! Todd Zaki Warfel President, Design Researcher Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully. -- Contact Info Voice: (215) 825-7423 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://toddwarfel.com Twitter:zakiwarfel -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
> Check box table design is widely used for selecting multiple rows in a > table > and performing batch actions (example- delete, apply, assign). > Alternatively, Shift click can be used to enable multi selection. Hotmail > is doing this in a slightly different way. Are there any other thoughts, > examples out there for selecting multiple rows? Suba, we had a big discussion about this in March -- you might find some useful info in it: http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=26984 I had the exact same issue and sadly decided to go with the standard checkbox approach, because my client's customers were already used to that style of interaction, and because I couldn't come up with anything else that worked well with the number of batch actions I had. I had to figure out what to do with buttons that could only act on one item at a time vs. button that could act on many items at one time (batch). In the end, I disabled single-item buttons when the user selected more than one item. They display an explanation of why they're disabled on rollover. Would love to hear (or see!) if you end up finding some cool alternative to checkboxes! Meredith Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Alternate design for check box table
It would be interesting to play with Click + Drag to select multiple rows, similar to a list box. This is perhaps unexpected and advanced functionality, but with proper cues it can be learned and can speed the interaction up. It is also dependent on whether you need to preserve Click + Drag's default behavior of text selection. On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Suba Periyasami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Check box table design is widely used for selecting multiple rows in a > table > and performing batch actions (example- delete, apply, assign). > Alternatively, Shift click can be used to enable multi selection. Hotmail > is doing this in a slightly different way. Are there any other thoughts, > examples out there for selecting multiple rows? > > > -Suba > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
