Re: [IxDA Discuss] History of Interaction Design training?

2009-10-30 Thread C Martin
I agree with Dave.  I work in both software and architectural.  

When working in software, I am a 'Usability Engineer'.  I am not a
developer - I work with developers.  I don't work with code.  This
has been some what of a tripping point at times.  I have seen more
than one company desperate to solve a chronic usability problem, but
reluctant to higher a consultant like me because I won't also build
it.  

As a 'usability engineer', I design and communicate requirements, 
negotiate priorities and possibilities, and advocate usability
issues.  Usability issues can encompass a very wide range of issues,
such as: human error, manufacturing cost, safety, satisfaction, work
flow, speed and communication.  None of which is coding. What I need
to know about coding, I generally learn from the developers I work
with.

Design-build has its advantages in some situations and not others. 
When the builder is also the designer, conflict of interest is always
an issue that must be balanced.  Design-build creativity and usability
can either suffer or flourish  it depends

When working in architectural, I can be a 'Usability Consultant' or
'architectural designer'.  Again, I am not a civil engineer or
structural engineer - but I work with engineers and a design team, to
negotiate the design needs of the end-client, human behavior, physics
and budget.

I am educated in mechanical design (associates) and psychology BS.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] History of Interaction Design training?

2009-10-29 Thread dave malouf
I would be very cautious about this topic. 
We don't even know definitively what an Interaction Designer is, let
alone how we were all educated.

While we are some 30 years into our existence (depending on what you
consider a "start date") the reality is that most of us 
a) got to "interaction designer" in the most convoluted of paths
2) don't even have the title of "interaction designer"

I would ask you, before submitting your research question, what is
the focus of intention of the research you want to do? Cmoparison to
what end? Why those professions? What similarities do they have to
IxD?

I find it odd that you wouldn't rather look at say other better
defined design positions such as graphic designer and industrial
designer and maybe even architecture (most formalized, requiring
licensing.) 

This is a topic though I have been giving a ton of attention to
lately. I was at a little mini-summit during IDSA in Miami last month
and it was depressing how even a solid design discipline like
Industrial Design is STILL struggling with core issues of "what
should we be teaching?" ... It really speaks to the state of
complexity of the world we now live in.

Anyway, that's my take. It obviously didn't answer your question,
but I feel it adds to the conversation your question implies.

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] History of Interaction Design training?

2009-10-29 Thread Leonardo Parra
Hi Sam,

Yesterday I came across an article from Digital Creativity (Vol 20)
you might want to check out: Breaking the rules in interactive media
design education. Oğuzhan Özcan;  Asim Evren Yantaç; Mary Lou O'Neil.
Get full pdf here:
http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/title~db=all~content=g911166153

It´s more about how to tackle innovation in interactive media design
education, but still related to your work.

Best,

Leonardo.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Sam Ladner  wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I'm a sometimes member of this list so apologies for busting in
> without having contributed for some time.
>
> I'm writing an article for Interactions magazine and I would really
> like to know how people are typically trained for interaction
> design.
>
> I know the IxDA personas were based on a survey, though I haven't
> seen the data, so don't know if they would answer my question.
>
> Does anyone have any papers or surveys or data that might help me
> answer this question? Ideally, I'd like to compare IxD to
> professions such as law or accounting, in terms of degrees,
> standardized tests, apprenticeships, and designations.
> 
> Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
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-- 
Leonardo Parra M.F.A.
Profesor
Departamento de Diseño
Universidad de los Andes
Bogotá, Colombia.

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[IxDA Discuss] History of Interaction Design training?

2009-10-29 Thread Sam Ladner
Hi folks,
I'm a sometimes member of this list so apologies for busting in
without having contributed for some time.

I'm writing an article for Interactions magazine and I would really
like to know how people are typically trained for interaction
design.

I know the IxDA personas were based on a survey, though I haven't
seen the data, so don't know if they would answer my question.

Does anyone have any papers or surveys or data that might help me
answer this question? Ideally, I'd like to compare IxD to
professions such as law or accounting, in terms of degrees,
standardized tests, apprenticeships, and designations.

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