[IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all the designers?
There are simply more jobs than IxDs right now. We're all engaged in solving interesting problems, and the world is exploding with yet more possibilities. The fear I share with others is that we all face a serious professional issue if unqualified folks fill IxD shoes and cause industry to sour on our discipline. I'm thinking that facing outward and being more direct with industry is crucial for IxDA. Leaving aside the somehow too-touchy definitional question...which I believe is not as out of whack as some contend... I do believe that IxDA has to help us maintain standards and build out the fields of our shared expertise. As a member of the board, I want to make this happen. So, what are some of the best means we (IxDA) could employ to communicate the IxD message & self-definition with recruiters, HR departments, education, business leaders, etc.? Cheers, Liz On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Brett Ingram wrote: > Which brings me to the original question in this discussion thread. > What I haven't really seen anyone write is that the reason it is hard > to find designers might be because we are happily employed and not in > the market for a job. Director, IxDA / www.ixda.org CDO, Devise / www.devise.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all the designers?
The only profession I see in a more unbalanced demand/supply position is the SEO specialist. On Feb 21, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Elizabeth Bacon wrote: > There are simply more jobs than IxDs right now. We're all engaged in > solving interesting problems, and the world is exploding with yet > more possibilities. > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all the designers?
Have people considered that the current lack of good developers in the market place has meant that graduates upwards have been focusing on the development end of the process and not the design end. I'm often coming across fellow freelance IxDs that basically are retraining as developers as they can't find work in the design field but are seeing developers in great demand and often earning up to twice the pay packet. This also comes to the issue of availability of good professional training for for IxDs. In many places its just not available at all. IxD is also often seen as the "anyone" can do that end of the developmental cycle. -- Gary Barber Freelance User Interaction Designer / Information Architect web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com Elizabeth Bacon wrote: > There are simply more jobs than IxDs right now. We're all engaged in > solving interesting problems, and the world is exploding with yet > more possibilities. > > The fear I share with others is that we all face a serious > professional issue if unqualified folks fill IxD shoes and cause > industry to sour on our discipline. I'm thinking that facing outward > and being more direct with industry is crucial for IxDA. Leaving > aside the somehow too-touchy definitional question...which I believe > is not as out of whack as some contend... I do believe that IxDA has > to help us maintain standards and build out the fields of our shared > expertise. As a member of the board, I want to make this happen. > > So, what are some of the best means we (IxDA) could employ to > communicate the IxD message & self-definition with recruiters, HR > departments, education, business leaders, etc.? > > Cheers, > Liz > > > On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Brett Ingram wrote: > > >> Which brings me to the original question in this discussion thread. >> What I haven't really seen anyone write is that the reason it is hard >> to find designers might be because we are happily employed and not in >> the market for a job. >> > > > Director, IxDA / www.ixda.org > CDO, Devise / www.devise.com > > > > > > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! > To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe > List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines > List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all the designers?
Totally. I've been asked, pressured and made to take courses in development because it's not quite as easy to make a direct Microsoft Project statement on how some design matters in the end. A more usable or beautiful end result is harder to prove in a countdown of hours and money for a client project. Damnit :-| Scott On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Gary Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have people considered that the current lack of good developers in the > market place has meant that graduates upwards have been focusing on the > development end of the process and not the design end. > > I'm often coming across fellow freelance IxDs that basically are > retraining as developers as they can't find work in the design field but > are seeing developers in great demand and often earning up to twice the > pay packet. > > This also comes to the issue of availability of good professional > training for for IxDs. In many places its just not available at all. > > IxD is also often seen as the "anyone" can do that end of the > developmental cycle. 'Life' plus 'significance' = magic. ~ Grant Morrison Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Means to an IxDA message? WAS: Re: Where are all the designers?
You don't have to change your focus from design to development. Find an industry where design matters or a corporation that values design as a differentiator. There is no lack of these industries or corporations, and the list is growing. If I was building web sites for small clients who have few $$ and a no inhouse dev staff, and they wanted everything yesterday and the value to their business was having a web site at all, not in it leading the market placethen of course, I would hire that extra developer versus a designer. This is a "well duh" situation as a designer, and you shoud move on. Lastly, there are product areas where design doesn't enable "make it better" attributes (useable/beautiful). Design is the product, it is the thing itself you are buying, it enables the creation. I think the iphone is a good example. It is not a phone. It is a new product category...most similar to the PDA, but through design I think it breaks through into something other than that...which is mainstream. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Scott McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > matters in the end. A more usable or beautiful end result is harder > to prove in a countdown > of hours and money for a client project. > > Damnit :-| > > Scott > > Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
