[OSGeo-Discuss] New Mexico local chapter?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Perry, Gary, Tim, Mark, Richard, thank you all for your support. I'm looking forward to a local chapter (it would be the first in the US, hard as it is to believe). As for the education suggestions, thank you once again. I'll get Amy Ballard in touch with the education project at OSGeo since she is the GIT chair at our community college. Karl and I are thinking of tag teaming a class, and he has some curriculum built up, but it would be best if it was built around what OSGeo had in mind. I spoke with Tyler today about the chapter and I have attempted to address an apparently unique issue. The NM chapter wants to begin some software projects that don't yet exist, OS or otherwise, and it's unclear what I meant by starting something up under the banner of OSGeo. MapServer is managed by UMN, GRASS by ITC, OSSIM by RadiantBlue, but we folks don't have an organization that would create software, manage it, release it as open source, so our organization would be...the New Mexico chapter of OSGeo. It's a New Mexico OSGeo project, so they direct it, and they release it, technically OSGeo releases it. That's all. It's a new concept for OSGeo, but I think it helps, and I think it will be common as time goes on. The more formal membership in OSGeo becomes, the more solid that link becomes. We do all have organizations already, but nothing that would allow us to work on something under their employ and release it as open source, and I can tell you, if it isn't open source, it isn't going to happen at all, at least not from me. Few of us are professional programmers (e.g., I'm not) and can't devote much, if any, time to these projects during work hours, and people tend not to write software on their own time either if it's just for work. In short, it's open source or no source. So who owns it? Nowhere in the discussion of open source have I ever seen that addressed because nobody owns it. Anyone can take it and develop on their own branch however they like, although that rarely happens. Any source I write I intend to release as GPL, free, and anyone can do what they want with it, and I think most of New Mexican developers have something identical in mind. Essentially, think of it like any other open source project, MapServer, etc., the copyright is held by whoever wrote it but as you know GPL allows for all kinds of things that your traditional copyright disallows. Most things are on SourceForge, we want to host our own source because we're geeks and we thinking setting up Subversion would be fun. Thank you for your consideration. Please email me or this list if you have any other questions, and otherwise thanks again for all the encouragement. -Zack -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyC38bb3W6CZJLjURAkZuAJ0VuIf5/lz7n480EzxPJAL/AKuBCQCfZ3vX GtksMu1zFoZ+TO+Jei3F/aM= =gsog -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2007 Call for Workshops
Below is the FOSS4G conference call for workshops... Tyler The FOSS4G (Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial) conference is pleased to announce the Call for Workshops for the 2007 conference, being held September 24-27 in beautiful Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. FOSS4G is the premier conference for the open source geospatial community, providing a place for developers, users, and people new to open source geospatial to get a full-immersion experience in both established and leading edge geospatial technologies. This is your chance to showcase your favorite application, integration solution, or other topic. You will use your superior classroom skills to lead a group of attendees through your chosen topic in either a half-day or ninety minute lab or classroom format. Half-day workshops will be delivered on Monday, September 24 (the Workshops day), while the ninety minute workshops will run concurrently with the presentations during the remainder of the conference. While we are open to workshops on a wide range of topics, we strongly encourage workshop submissions on the following topics: Practical Introduction to ___ Interoperability NeoGeography and NovelGeography Using a Software Stack 3D Worlds In the tradition of previous FOSS4G events, we expect that the majority of workshops will be "hands on", with participants seated in front of computers and able to follow along with the instructor, working directly with the software and applications under discussion. Be prepared to spend considerable effort in creating your workshop. Past experience has shown that a high quality workshop requires about three days of preparation for each hour of presentation time. As part of this preparation you will be expected to develop material for attendees to take away with them, such as handouts, a 'workbook', CDROM, etc. In recognition of this effort, workshop presenters will receive a reduction in the price of conference registration: free registration for delivering a half-day workshop half-price registration for delivering a 90-minute workshop Because of limited space, you may want to consider submitting two versions of your topic, one for each length format. Please visit the workshops page on our website to download the submission templates and instructions for sending them in: http://www.foss4g2007.org/workshops.html The deadline for workshop submissions is February 28, 2007. Submit early, submit often! ___ Announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/announce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007 - Call for OSGeo speakers...
Aaron, I might be able to swing a Friday the 27th in Portland, though I don't think that I'll be able to attend the whole conference. I could possibly serve as a panel speaker if you needed one, depending on the topic, and would be willing to do a couple of hours at the booth as well. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Racicot Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:51 AM To: 'OSGeo Discussions'; 'Visibility Committee Discussion List' Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007 - Call for OSGeo speakers... I will be organizing the OSGeo presence at OSCON this year (and guess what, I am already behind schedule!). I was planning on submitting a proposal for a 90 minute session (hopefully for 3-4 speakers) on behalf of OSGeo as well as hosting a BOF again this year. We had great interaction with the community last year and the audience was very receptive to our cause. I would love to get an idea of who plans to attend and who would be willing to talk. I plan on presenting and would love to get 2-3 more people, hopefully willing to give talks on specific projects or integration efforts. Please let me know ASAP as I will put in the proposal later today and any other names and email addresses I can mark down as speakers would be great. We are tentatively lined up to have a booth again this year (very similar to last year's event) so I will be looking to get people signed on for "booth duty" as well. More to come after we get confirmation of a speaking slot at the end of the month. A ++ Aaron Racicot - GIS Programmer 360.221.2441 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ e c o t r u s t pobox 1614 langley wa 98260 www.ecotrust.org ++ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Nebert Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007 Be Heard at OSCON 2007 -- Submit Your Proposal to Lead Sessions and Tutorials by February 5! The O'Reilly Open Source Convention July 23-27, 2007 Portland, Oregon http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/ More than 2500 open source developers, gurus, experts and users will gather, eager to network, learn, and share the latest knowledge on open source software. We think of this group as "the best of the best," and we invite you to contribute to the more than 400 sessions and 40 tutorials designed to build inspiration and know-how. Submit your proposals at: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/create/e_sess Share your favorite techniques, your proven successes, and newly developed technology in tracks for Linux, PHP, Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, Databases, Desktop Applications, Web Applications (client-side and server-side), Windows, Administration, Security, and Emerging Topics. For full details and guidelines on submitting your proposal, go to http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/. If you know someone who would be a good speaker, please pass this email on. Whether as a speaker or as an attendee, you'll want to participate in this meeting of the best minds in the business, which will also include the O'Reilly Radar Executive Briefing. Be sure to save the dates -- July 23-27. Registration will open in early April. We hope to see you in Portland in July! The OSCON Team P.S. Remember, proposals for sessions and tutorials must be submitted to http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/ by (11:59PM Pacific Standard Time) Monday, February 5. -- Douglas D. Nebert Geospatial Data Clearinghouse Coordinator, Information Architect FGDC/GSDI Secretariat Phone: +1 703 648 4151 Fax: +1 703 648-5755 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007 - Call for OSGeo speakers...
I will be organizing the OSGeo presence at OSCON this year (and guess what, I am already behind schedule!). I was planning on submitting a proposal for a 90 minute session (hopefully for 3-4 speakers) on behalf of OSGeo as well as hosting a BOF again this year. We had great interaction with the community last year and the audience was very receptive to our cause. I would love to get an idea of who plans to attend and who would be willing to talk. I plan on presenting and would love to get 2-3 more people, hopefully willing to give talks on specific projects or integration efforts. Please let me know ASAP as I will put in the proposal later today and any other names and email addresses I can mark down as speakers would be great. We are tentatively lined up to have a booth again this year (very similar to last year's event) so I will be looking to get people signed on for "booth duty" as well. More to come after we get confirmation of a speaking slot at the end of the month. A ++ Aaron Racicot - GIS Programmer 360.221.2441 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ e c o t r u s t pobox 1614 langley wa 98260 www.ecotrust.org ++ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Nebert Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007 Be Heard at OSCON 2007 -- Submit Your Proposal to Lead Sessions and Tutorials by February 5! The O'Reilly Open Source Convention July 23-27, 2007 Portland, Oregon http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/ More than 2500 open source developers, gurus, experts and users will gather, eager to network, learn, and share the latest knowledge on open source software. We think of this group as "the best of the best," and we invite you to contribute to the more than 400 sessions and 40 tutorials designed to build inspiration and know-how. Submit your proposals at: http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/create/e_sess Share your favorite techniques, your proven successes, and newly developed technology in tracks for Linux, PHP, Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, Databases, Desktop Applications, Web Applications (client-side and server-side), Windows, Administration, Security, and Emerging Topics. For full details and guidelines on submitting your proposal, go to http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/. If you know someone who would be a good speaker, please pass this email on. Whether as a speaker or as an attendee, you'll want to participate in this meeting of the best minds in the business, which will also include the O'Reilly Radar Executive Briefing. Be sure to save the dates -- July 23-27. Registration will open in early April. We hope to see you in Portland in July! The OSCON Team P.S. Remember, proposals for sessions and tutorials must be submitted to http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2007/ by (11:59PM Pacific Standard Time) Monday, February 5. -- Douglas D. Nebert Geospatial Data Clearinghouse Coordinator, Information Architect FGDC/GSDI Secretariat Phone: +1 703 648 4151 Fax: +1 703 648-5755 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New Mexico local chapter?
Zachary, I think this is a good idea and i'd suggest you take a look at OSSIM http://www.ossim.org which is more focused on photogrammetry and remote sensing. It already performs orthorectification, precision terrain correction, map projection/datum shifts, and supports several rigorous camera models. OSSIM is an OSGeo project, but is not as well known as some of the online mapping tools due to its more scientific orientation and corresponding learning curve. OSSIM would certainly benefit from additional capabilities in some of these areas and educational materials. Contact me directly if you are interested in finding out more. Mark Lucas I think a chapter in New Mexico focused on the technologies that you have defined would be an asset to the overall OSGeo effort. On Feb 4, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Zachary L. Stauber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Some of us down here in New Mexico (or up depending on your orientation) want to start a local chapter. I've started a wiki here listing some info on us. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/New_Mexico Anyone think it's a great idea? A bad idea? Too small of an area? Too big? Just right? Before you answer let me go into a little bit of why we need a chapter. I work for a private engineering firm that does photogrammetry that does a high volume of orthophotos plus I teach photogrammetry part time at the local tech-voc institute where we can't afford the usual software. I'd like to see the software cheaper (specifically, free) and developers pay more attention to bug fixes and so on, which open source usually does. So I need a vehicle for starting up photogrammetry in open source, and rather that duplicating efforts, we figured we'd join OSGeo. My co-worker John Nipper is a programmer with experience in programming for aerial cameras and LiDAR sensors and wants to help. But we also need to be able to solicit help from experts in the field, professors of photogrammetry and surveying, mathematics, etc., and open source is the only neutral ground on which we can easily work together. My colleague and chair of the GIT program at the tech-voc school Amy Ballard wants to offer a class just on open source software. She believes it's taking off and will is useful in real jobs around New Mexico, and she wants to encourage its further use. R. Cliff Wilkie, geodetic surveyor for the City of Albuquerque, wants to offer users some shifting and reprojection software for surveyors to manipulate their points that operates transparently and has a good manual or explanation of the mechanics internally so people know what's happening to their data, for people like him to whom 1mm is a significant error. Karl Benedict is hosting the server. He's the senior research analyst and IT manager for the University of New Mexico's Earth Data Analysis Center. He's been 100% open source for years now, big user of the usual suspects (MapServer, Linux, SOAP, and so on), and is all for encouraging their use in the GIS community in New Mexico. I think we have a unique setup here, not only having people from all three communities (private, government, and academic) but most important working in some fields that are somewhat esoteric. GoogleEarth has millions of users, and with it things like MapServer. Desktop GIS has tens of thousands around the world, but photogrammetry and high accuracy geodesy, probably only several hundred. So there are a lot of things being developed in the high volume areas of open source that get a lot of attention, and the esoteric ones don't so much, which is too bad because the commercial software available suffers in quality from the same dynamic. There are only a dozen photogrammetry packages out there compared to scores of desktop GIS, and most of them are flirting with a price around US$20,000 per component, per license. The US National Geodetic Survey provides some tools for datum shifts and reprojecdtions like CorpsCon, but they are US-centric, and the development is controlled by a body which is not funded as well as it should be considering it's the foundation on which all geographic data is collected. Some software is still DOS-only. We need to be part of OSGeo so development can make sure the intellectual property rests in the public domain and the development is still controlled by a long-lived body devoted to the task like OSGeo rather than the US federal government or any private business. They can donate money and their peoples' time to us, grants, etc., but development that goes into a private box is notoriously cumbersome to update, doesn't have a wide range of users to test it, and has a habit of dying off. -Zack Stauber -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFxnYobb3W6CZJLjURAjYzAKCQyn
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Was New Mexico- Educational resources
We have produced several intro course works (Udig, Quantum GIS, MapWindow) for open source GIS desktop software here at Florida State, You are welcome to use them if you want. Also we have a course for open source software that includes other software beside GIS . I can send the syllabus if you want. It includes all the reading assignments, etc. Tim Bowden wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 07:18 -0500, Gary Watry wrote: We have produced several intro course works (Udig, Quantum GIS, MapWindow) for open source GIS desktop software here at Florida State, You are welcome to use them if you want. This is something that would be useful to the wider OSGeo community. One of the things that was asked of us at linux.conf.au open day was what resources were available to teaching staff. If OSGeo had a repository of coursework or contacts that have developed coursework, it would make it easier to point people to the right place. Is this something that could be added to such a repository? Is the education committee building such a thing? Regards, Tim Bowden ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- The information transmitted is intended solely for the person or entity for which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from your computer. Gary L. Watry GIS Coordinator Center for Ocean-Atmospheric Prediction Studies FSU / COAPS Johnson Building, RM 231 2035 East Paul Dirac Drive Tallahassee, Florida 32306-2840 Phone (850) 645-7457 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Was New Mexico- Educational resources
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 07:18 -0500, Gary Watry wrote: > We have produced several intro course works (Udig, Quantum GIS, > MapWindow) for open source GIS desktop software here at Florida State, > You are welcome to use them if you want. > This is something that would be useful to the wider OSGeo community. One of the things that was asked of us at linux.conf.au open day was what resources were available to teaching staff. If OSGeo had a repository of coursework or contacts that have developed coursework, it would make it easier to point people to the right place. Is this something that could be added to such a repository? Is the education committee building such a thing? Regards, Tim Bowden ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New Mexico local chapter?
We have produced several intro course works (Udig, Quantum GIS, MapWindow) for open source GIS desktop software here at Florida State, You are welcome to use them if you want. Also we have a course for open source software that includes other software beside GIS . I can send the syllabus if you want. It includes al the reading assignments, etc. Zachary L. Stauber wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Some of us down here in New Mexico (or up depending on your orientation) want to start a local chapter. I've started a wiki here listing some info on us. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/New_Mexico Anyone think it's a great idea? A bad idea? Too small of an area? Too big? Just right? Before you answer let me go into a little bit of why we need a chapter. I work for a private engineering firm that does photogrammetry that does a high volume of orthophotos plus I teach photogrammetry part time at the local tech-voc institute where we can't afford the usual software. I'd like to see the software cheaper (specifically, free) and developers pay more attention to bug fixes and so on, which open source usually does. So I need a vehicle for starting up photogrammetry in open source, and rather that duplicating efforts, we figured we'd join OSGeo. My co-worker John Nipper is a programmer with experience in programming for aerial cameras and LiDAR sensors and wants to help. But we also need to be able to solicit help from experts in the field, professors of photogrammetry and surveying, mathematics, etc., and open source is the only neutral ground on which we can easily work together. My colleague and chair of the GIT program at the tech-voc school Amy Ballard wants to offer a class just on open source software. She believes it's taking off and will is useful in real jobs around New Mexico, and she wants to encourage its further use. R. Cliff Wilkie, geodetic surveyor for the City of Albuquerque, wants to offer users some shifting and reprojection software for surveyors to manipulate their points that operates transparently and has a good manual or explanation of the mechanics internally so people know what's happening to their data, for people like him to whom 1mm is a significant error. Karl Benedict is hosting the server. He's the senior research analyst and IT manager for the University of New Mexico's Earth Data Analysis Center. He's been 100% open source for years now, big user of the usual suspects (MapServer, Linux, SOAP, and so on), and is all for encouraging their use in the GIS community in New Mexico. I think we have a unique setup here, not only having people from all three communities (private, government, and academic) but most important working in some fields that are somewhat esoteric. GoogleEarth has millions of users, and with it things like MapServer. Desktop GIS has tens of thousands around the world, but photogrammetry and high accuracy geodesy, probably only several hundred. So there are a lot of things being developed in the high volume areas of open source that get a lot of attention, and the esoteric ones don't so much, which is too bad because the commercial software available suffers in quality from the same dynamic. There are only a dozen photogrammetry packages out there compared to scores of desktop GIS, and most of them are flirting with a price around US$20,000 per component, per license. The US National Geodetic Survey provides some tools for datum shifts and reprojecdtions like CorpsCon, but they are US-centric, and the development is controlled by a body which is not funded as well as it should be considering it's the foundation on which all geographic data is collected. Some software is still DOS-only. We need to be part of OSGeo so development can make sure the intellectual property rests in the public domain and the development is still controlled by a long-lived body devoted to the task like OSGeo rather than the US federal government or any private business. They can donate money and their peoples' time to us, grants, etc., but development that goes into a private box is notoriously cumbersome to update, doesn't have a wide range of users to test it, and has a habit of dying off. -Zack Stauber -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFxnYobb3W6CZJLjURAjYzAKCQynd6k2tKDNeNFmwffbFQ+vIbSQCgzWKu JLrHodF+U83EWlB2MraThAU= =0GF3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- The information transmitted is intended solely for the person or entity for which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this informatio
