Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Aust-NZ] Geospatial Events Calendar?

2007-10-15 Thread Allan Doyle

There's another at http://www.esa.int/esaCP/index_Calendar.html

I thought setting up a calendar would be a good idea at one point,  
too. Then I saw how many are out there already, and the enormity of  
the task sunk in. Not only are there a lot of calendars out there,  
but many events are already on many of the calendars. But they are on  
there with metadata that was interpreted by the calendar keeper from  
the source material about the conference.


It's ironic that this is essentially the same kind of thing that  
plagues the geo data world. Lots of datasets get shipped around,  
slowly losing their ties to the source data set as people use and  
reuse the data.


The ideal solution is the same. Standardized metadata attached to the  
source material in a crawlable way. Make sure the catalogs (in this  
case, calendars) retain pointers to the source material.


Allan

On Oct 14, 2007, at 23:43 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Cameron,

The GSDI people maintain a list of conferences at:

http://www.gsdi.org/events/upcnf.asp


This may help.

Bruce




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Has anyone set up (and maintaining) a Geospatial Events Calendar?
Ideally one that I can import into my Google Calendar.
It would be useful for picking future OSGeo conference dates that  
don't

clash.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Events Calendar?

2007-10-15 Thread Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
2007/10/15, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Has anyone set up (and maintaining) a Geospatial Events Calendar?
 Ideally one that I can import into my Google Calendar.
 It would be useful for picking future OSGeo conference dates that don't
 clash.



Hi,

I maintain that calendar:

http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ak1i8t86206kbg5njvv91ra43o%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics

Mostly, but not only, Spanish events. I always try to add a url to the
event website and a brief description.

I also know that ones:

A Very Spatial Podcast Calendar:
http://www.veryspatial.com/calendar/publish.php/?user=public

Hablandodesigs.com:
http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/oaakuqgoos9fnenq6dahpi4qo8%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics

Regards,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How to assess rendering quality?

2007-10-15 Thread Jody Garnett

Gilles Bassière wrote:

Hi list,

I'm doing a comparative study of OpenSource cartographic servers 
(Mapserver, Geoserver and Mapnik). Beside raw performance and 
features, I'd like to assess the rendering quality, say how pretty 
produced maps are. Precisely, I'm interested in the quality of the 
drawing work, my point is not about symbology, nor styling of maps.


I have some problems to find a set of objective criteria I could 
benchmark my servers against. So far, I have already identified the 
following:

- sharpness of details
- smoothness of lines

I like how sharpness of details and smoothness of lines are in conflict :-)

- uniformity of colors

I'm open to any comments. Do you think these criteria are consistent 
regarding the purpose of my study? Does anyone have other criteria to 
suggest?
All my advice falls under symbology / styling and how well a map 
communicates.


It is going to be very difficult to access quality in an objective 
manner; here are a couple of ideas:
- Compare the full colour PNG formats to close the applications can come 
to that using 8=bit PNG or JPeg

- Compare ability to labeling (if you do not consider that styling)

If you can load your own data into the different environments a range of 
different tests should open up for you:

- compare image at different scales; notice when features cut out
- see how well they do at rendering narrow polygons; subtract points if 
the resulting map looks invalid
- zoom out and notice how well features (and labels) converge or are 
combined


Best of luck for what should be a really interesting write up; I am 
looking forward to seeing how MapServer 4 does against MapServer 5.



Jody
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[OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

2007-10-15 Thread Landon Blake
I want to thank Allan, Brad, and Chris for their responses to my post
about starting a California Chapter.

Allan had an excellent suggestion about representing the OSGeo at the
CALGIS 2008 Conference in Modesto. I think this would be a great short
term goal for our chapter. Modesto is right down Highway 99 from
Stockton, so if this idea has support from other OSGeo members I can
plan on representing the OSGeo there in some fashion. Would any other
members of our fledgling chapter be able to help with that?

I think it would be prudent to request a mailing list for
almost-a-chapter from Tyler.

I think we then need to accomplish the following tasks to get our
chapter off of the ground:

[1] Determine what needs to be done to meet the requirements for an
OSGeo chapter. I imagine we might have to elect some chapter
representatives and come up with some type of charter.

[2] Decide on one or two well defined goals for 2008. Perhaps these will
be software-related, perhaps they won't be. I'll send a subsequent post
on this topic.

I can do some research on the requirements at a booth for the CALGIS
2008 Conference in Modesto. Can Allan, Chris or Brad work on determining
the requirements to become an OSGeo chapter? (Or, I can trade tasks with
someone.)

Landon

-Original Message-
From: Brad Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:20 PM
To: Landon Blake
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter

 Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter of
 the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area that
 this would have been done already.

I queried about it early in OSGeo history, but never received interest.

 I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't know
 if I want to run and administer things on my own. Are there any
 other interested OSGeo members in California?

I also had similar concerns.

 I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and
 simple goals. This would help our group to be focused and have
 something to actually work together on. I'm pretty flexible to what
 the goals might be, although I have a particular interest in a couple
 of areas. :]

What did you have in mind?  I'm a GRASS developer and reside in the
South-east Bay (Fremont).  It would be nice to work on something with
someone who didn't drink the ESRI Koolaid for a change...


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Events Calendar?

2007-10-15 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
I have also been testing having a common/shared (via webdav) .ics  
file that we could use.  Would that help?  I was envisioning having  
one for tracking OSGeo meetings, but we could also use one for events  
in general.


Tyler

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

2007-10-15 Thread Landon Blake
I've contacted the administrative staff for the conference about
requirements and costs for a booth. I'll report to the list when I have
learned more.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Putler
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:59 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

Hi Landon,

Sounds good. I registered for the conference since the price goes up $50
(from $125 to $175) tomorrow.

Dan

On Mon, 2007-15-10 at 10:32 -0700, Landon Blake wrote:
 Dan,
 
 The website for the conference is here:
 
 http://www.calgis.org/
 
 I'll get a hold of the management to see what the costs/requirements
are
 for setting up a booth.
 
 Landon
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Putler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 AM
 To: Landon Blake
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning
 
 Hi Landon,
 
 It turns out that for complicated dual career reasons, I'm in NorCal
 about half of the time and Vancouver the other half (I guess making me
 eligible to be both in the California and British Columbia Chapters).
 I'm interested in helping out if I can. The CALGIS event seems
 particularly interesting (I grew up in Modesto, and much of my family
is
 still there). What are the details on this event, and how can I
 (potentially) help?
 
 Dan
 
 On Mon, 2007-15-10 at 09:37 -0700, Landon Blake wrote:
  I want to thank Allan, Brad, and Chris for their responses to my
post
  about starting a California Chapter.
  
  Allan had an excellent suggestion about representing the OSGeo at
the
  CALGIS 2008 Conference in Modesto. I think this would be a great
short
  term goal for our chapter. Modesto is right down Highway 99 from
  Stockton, so if this idea has support from other OSGeo members I can
  plan on representing the OSGeo there in some fashion. Would any
other
  members of our fledgling chapter be able to help with that?
  
  I think it would be prudent to request a mailing list for
  almost-a-chapter from Tyler.
  
  I think we then need to accomplish the following tasks to get our
  chapter off of the ground:
  
  [1] Determine what needs to be done to meet the requirements for an
  OSGeo chapter. I imagine we might have to elect some chapter
  representatives and come up with some type of charter.
  
  [2] Decide on one or two well defined goals for 2008. Perhaps these
 will
  be software-related, perhaps they won't be. I'll send a subsequent
 post
  on this topic.
  
  I can do some research on the requirements at a booth for the CALGIS
  2008 Conference in Modesto. Can Allan, Chris or Brad work on
 determining
  the requirements to become an OSGeo chapter? (Or, I can trade tasks
 with
  someone.)
  
  Landon
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Brad Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:20 PM
  To: Landon Blake
  Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter
  
   Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter
 of
   the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area
that
   this would have been done already.
  
  I queried about it early in OSGeo history, but never received
 interest.
  
   I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't
 know
   if I want to run and administer things on my own. Are there any
   other interested OSGeo members in California?
  
  I also had similar concerns.
  
   I was thinking we could form a chapter with one or two clear and
   simple goals. This would help our group to be focused and have
   something to actually work together on. I'm pretty flexible to
 what
   the goals might be, although I have a particular interest in a
 couple
   of areas. :]
  
  What did you have in mind?  I'm a GRASS developer and reside in the
  South-east Bay (Fremont).  It would be nice to work on something
with
  someone who didn't drink the ESRI Koolaid for a change...
  
  
-- 
Dan Putler
Sauder School of Business
University of British Columbia
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Events Calendar?

2007-10-15 Thread Cameron Shorter

Mmm,
I hadn't through the complexity of my request for this deceptively 
simple problem.
Agreed, standardized structured data is part of the ultimate solution. 
Do you enter every event and swamp the user with noise?
I guess a user would want to subscribe to a number of domain or 
geography specific calendars.

Eg: For me I'd be looking for calendars for:
OSGeo International Events
OGC International Events
OGC Testbed X Events (for the testbeds I'm involved in)
Australian National Geospatial Events
Aggregate of National Geospatial Events (Occasionally required to avoid 
classes when picking conference dates)

Australian local Geospatial Events
Mapbuilder meetings
OpenLayers meetings
Geotools meetings

Ah - it is all too hard!


Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
I have also been testing having a common/shared (via webdav) .ics file 
that we could use.  Would that help?  I was envisioning having one for 
tracking OSGeo meetings, but we could also use one for events in general.


Tyler

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Whitney

Unfortunately, I will not be able to go to CalGIS.

The requirements for a new chapter are available at http:// 
www.osgeo.org/content/chapters/guidelines.html:

--
In order to form a chapter, the following steps should be taken:

OSGeo Chapter should self-organize (for instance in the OSGeo wiki,  
via OSGeo mailing list, etc), seeking to determine if a critical mass  
of interest exists to justify a chapter.
OSGeo Chapter should prepare a mission and objectives indicating  
the scope of the planned chapter (geographic or linquistic extent for  
instance).
OSGeo Chapter should propose an official representative to liaise  
with the OSGeo Board. If accepted by the board, the representative  
will be an officer of OSGeo.
OSGeo Chapter should submit an official expression of interest to  
form a chapter to the OSGeo board, listing initial members, mission,  
representative, legal form (incorporated?) and other supporting  
information.
The OSGeo board shall then consider passing a motion forming the  
chapter, and designating the liason officer.


In considering the formation of new OSGeo chapters, the board will  
consider issues including:
Does the mandate (geographically or linguistically) conflict with  
other existing chapters or chapters-in-formation?
Does the chapter appear to have sufficient interest to justify  
official formation?
Does the chapter appear to be open to broad membership, and  
representative of the target geographic or linguistic community? (eg.  
if a chapter had the objective to cover all Spanish speakers, it  
would be inappropriate if the only interest demonstrated was from one  
country)



-- Chris Whitney



On Oct 15, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Landon Blake wrote:


I've contacted the administrative staff for the conference about
requirements and costs for a booth. I'll report to the list when I  
have

learned more.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Putler
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:59 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

Hi Landon,

Sounds good. I registered for the conference since the price goes  
up $50

(from $125 to $175) tomorrow.

Dan

On Mon, 2007-15-10 at 10:32 -0700, Landon Blake wrote:

Dan,

The website for the conference is here:

http://www.calgis.org/

I'll get a hold of the management to see what the costs/requirements

are

for setting up a booth.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: Dan Putler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:23 AM
To: Landon Blake
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter - A Beginning

Hi Landon,

It turns out that for complicated dual career reasons, I'm in NorCal
about half of the time and Vancouver the other half (I guess  
making me

eligible to be both in the California and British Columbia Chapters).
I'm interested in helping out if I can. The CALGIS event seems
particularly interesting (I grew up in Modesto, and much of my family

is

still there). What are the details on this event, and how can I
(potentially) help?

Dan

On Mon, 2007-15-10 at 09:37 -0700, Landon Blake wrote:

I want to thank Allan, Brad, and Chris for their responses to my

post

about starting a California Chapter.

Allan had an excellent suggestion about representing the OSGeo at

the

CALGIS 2008 Conference in Modesto. I think this would be a great

short

term goal for our chapter. Modesto is right down Highway 99 from
Stockton, so if this idea has support from other OSGeo members I can
plan on representing the OSGeo there in some fashion. Would any

other

members of our fledgling chapter be able to help with that?

I think it would be prudent to request a mailing list for
almost-a-chapter from Tyler.

I think we then need to accomplish the following tasks to get our
chapter off of the ground:

[1] Determine what needs to be done to meet the requirements for an
OSGeo chapter. I imagine we might have to elect some chapter
representatives and come up with some type of charter.

[2] Decide on one or two well defined goals for 2008. Perhaps these

will

be software-related, perhaps they won't be. I'll send a subsequent

post

on this topic.

I can do some research on the requirements at a booth for the CALGIS
2008 Conference in Modesto. Can Allan, Chris or Brad work on

determining

the requirements to become an OSGeo chapter? (Or, I can trade tasks

with

someone.)

Landon

-Original Message-
From: Brad Douglas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:20 PM
To: Landon Blake
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] California Chapter


Has there ever been any discussion of forming a California chapter

of

the OSGeo? I would think with all the geo guys in the Bay Area

that

this would have been done already.


I queried about it early in OSGeo history, but never received

interest.



I would be interested in helping out with this, although I don't

know