RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)?
Concerning OpenJump it is really good but I couldn't make a pie chart map with it as I could do with Arcview 3.x I added the charts plugin but I think It doesn't classify the size of charts symbol. Does anyone can do it by any open-source GIS? Mohamed Mostafa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? A convert! Welcome Jennifer. I can't speak for GRASS, but I know that OpenJUMP (http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/OpenJUMP.html) could be compared to the old 3.X Arcview. It has limited printing abilities at this point in time, but I don't think there is a better cross-platform tool for basic ESRI Shapefile manipulation. (I'm a volunteer on the project and therefore biased in my opinion on this matter.) I think you will find you can do 95% of what you could with ESRI software, you'll just have to do it with an assortment of tools instead of a single tool. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Horsman Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:41 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? The thread that was started today with the subject "Your open source career" got me thinking about asking a question that has been rolling around in my head. This is pointed at those people who have experience with ESRI products as well as OS GIS products. I have been a long-time user of ESRI products, but I want to start my own contract business and will not be able to afford the license for ArcGIS/ArcInfo. So I recently set up a Linux box with GRASS installed, but it has been over 10 years since I have used GRASS (it has probably changed since then too!) Does GRASS have the same analysis and display capabilities as ArcGIS? I know this is a very general question, so perhaps another question would be where does GRASS fall short and where does it excel in comparison to the ESRI products? Thanks, Jennifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (aswith ESRI)?
Hello Mohamed, It's under development in gvSIG. Within this year (rough approximation) a new version whould be published with advanced symbology support as well as other features. If interested, you may have a look at the gvSIG road map [1] Regards [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=funcionalidades&L=2%2Findex.php%3Fid%3D&K=1&L=2 - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohamed Ghareeb >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:14 PM >To: 'OSGeo Discussions' >Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with >OS (aswith ESRI)? > >Concerning OpenJump it is really good but I couldn't make a >pie chart map with it as I could do with Arcview 3.x I added >the charts plugin but I think It doesn't classify the size of >charts symbol. >Does anyone can do it by any open-source GIS? > >Mohamed Mostafa > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:36 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with >OS (as with ESRI)? > >A convert! Welcome Jennifer. > >I can't speak for GRASS, but I know that OpenJUMP >(http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/OpenJUMP.html) could be >compared to the old 3.X Arcview. It has limited printing >abilities at this point in time, but I don't think there is a >better cross-platform tool for basic ESRI Shapefile >manipulation. (I'm a volunteer on the project and therefore >biased in my opinion on this matter.) > >I think you will find you can do 95% of what you could with >ESRI software, you'll just have to do it with an assortment of >tools instead of a single tool. > >Landon > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Horsman >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:41 PM >To: OSGeo Discussions >Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS >(as with ESRI)? > >The thread that was started today with the subject "Your open >source career" got me thinking about asking a question that >has been rolling around in my head. This is pointed at those >people who have experience with ESRI products as well as OS >GIS products. > >I have been a long-time user of ESRI products, but I want to >start my own contract business and will not be able to afford >the license for ArcGIS/ArcInfo. So I recently set up a Linux >box with GRASS installed, but it has been over 10 years since >I have used GRASS (it has probably changed since then too!) > >Does GRASS have the same analysis and display capabilities as >ArcGIS? I know this is a very general question, so perhaps >another question would be where does GRASS fall short and >where does it excel in comparison to the ESRI products? > >Thanks, >Jennifer > > > >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > >Warning: >Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed >against defects including translation and transmission errors. >If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of >this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this information in error, please notify the sender >immediately. >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >___ >Discuss mailing list >Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)?
I know this is not OS but GoogleChart is easy to use: http://code.google.com/apis/chart/ http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p3&chd=t:20,40,30,10&chs=250x100&chl= Hello|World|of|Google and it can be used to add chart icons for use in online mapping interfaces, not necessarily Google's, and not just pie charts. However, as with all of Google stuff the license is a gotcha for most businesses. Adding your own similar chart tool using svg or wpf/Silverlight interfaces would not be much of a problem. Plus you get better scaling with vector graphics along with click/rollover/tooltip... capabilities. Raster Icon charts seem to be a useable approach for map data as discussed here: http://blog.thematicmapping.org/2008/04/using-google-charts-with-kml.html I'd favor vector if you want drill-in capability though. randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mohamed Ghareeb Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:14 AM To: 'OSGeo Discussions' Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? Concerning OpenJump it is really good but I couldn't make a pie chart map with it as I could do with Arcview 3.x I added the charts plugin but I think It doesn't classify the size of charts symbol. Does anyone can do it by any open-source GIS? Mohamed Mostafa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 10:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? A convert! Welcome Jennifer. I can't speak for GRASS, but I know that OpenJUMP (http://jump-pilot.sourceforge.net/OpenJUMP.html) could be compared to the old 3.X Arcview. It has limited printing abilities at this point in time, but I don't think there is a better cross-platform tool for basic ESRI Shapefile manipulation. (I'm a volunteer on the project and therefore biased in my opinion on this matter.) I think you will find you can do 95% of what you could with ESRI software, you'll just have to do it with an assortment of tools instead of a single tool. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifer Horsman Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:41 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)? The thread that was started today with the subject "Your open source career" got me thinking about asking a question that has been rolling around in my head. This is pointed at those people who have experience with ESRI products as well as OS GIS products. I have been a long-time user of ESRI products, but I want to start my own contract business and will not be able to afford the license for ArcGIS/ArcInfo. So I recently set up a Linux box with GRASS installed, but it has been over 10 years since I have used GRASS (it has probably changed since then too!) Does GRASS have the same analysis and display capabilities as ArcGIS? I know this is a very general question, so perhaps another question would be where does GRASS fall short and where does it excel in comparison to the ESRI products? Thanks, Jennifer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Auto complete in Open Jump. OS GIS vs ESRI
Hi all, here is some encouraging information from OJ Cheers Ravi Kumar Note: forwarded message attached. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.--- Begin Message --- Send jump-users mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of jump-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks withOS (as with ESRI)? (Stefan Steiniger) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:32:01 -0600 From: Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [jump-users] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks withOS (as with ESRI)? To: JUMP Users Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: OSGeo Discussions Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed btw. OpenJUMPs Nightly Build has also an Auto-Complete Polygon tool, now. From a personal stand point I think OpenJUMPs editing capabilities for Vector data are very good and straight forward. What we don't - in comparison to ESRI ArcGIS is something like the "tracing" function. Stefan RAVI KUMAR wrote: > Hi Cameron, > the table of comparison is informative. > Most of the ARC-GIS users (my personal view) are Vector GIS users. > They are concerned of > 1. Registration of Paper maps into GIS > 2. Attribution > 3. Analysis depending on their need. > > CAD > > 4. Outputs of the above are also to be plotted in elegant maps with > proper symbology and standard colors. > > As an OSGeo enthusiast I recommend a cocktail of OS GIS software mix. > > > OpenJUMP and Qgis for steps Qgis 1 to 3 > Qgis and GRASS for advanced analysis > GRASS for statistical analysis with R > > OpenJUMP and Inkscape for step 4. As a geologist I get oriented > structures properly symbolised and rotated (possible in OpenJUMP) > > Am making some notes and soon wish to offer for downloading through > GRASS and OpenJUMP websites. > > Ravi Kumar > > > */Cameron Shorter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Ravi, > What us Open Source evangelists are missing is an honest comparison > between ESRI desktop applications and Open Source equivalents. > > What is it about ArcView and ArcGIS that people really like, listed > feature by feature in a table. > Then identify whether Open Source covers it and how. > Very important is to address usability. How quickly can an Arc* user > migrate to Open Source? > My skill set is lacking here as I don't have much experience in either > ESRI or the Open Source desktop tools. It seems like you have > experience > with both which puts you in a unique position. > > Is this something you, or one of your students would like to > investigate > further? Maybe build a table similar to this one: > http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/Desktopgis_overview.htm > > RAVI KUMAR wrote: > > Hi, > > this is the kind of question I face when in my lectures evangelising > > OS GIS. > > ArcGIS has many tools, though some prefer to call it a deluge of > > tools, which almost distance the user from understanding the concept > > of GIS. > > > > Auto Complete Polygon: > > In Qgis which is a very userfriendly OS GIS you have 'Cut > polygon', do > > try and find the difference. > > > > Polygonising from lines: > > Open JUMP has one of the most userfriendly approaches. > > Create lines and polygonise in OpenJUMP and the software > automatically > > creates a folder for Dangles (un-wanted line pieces) > > > > The query is more for Vector GIS, I suppose. > > > > GRASS GIS: > > It has so many features for Image analysis and Raster GIS, the > > commercial GIS need a barge pole to even touch it. The vector > Part of > > GRASS is robust too. > > > > Ravi Kumar > > > > > > */Markus Neteler /* wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM, George R. C. Silva > > wrote: > > ... > > > One thing GIS OS software could have are better editing tools. I > > do miss > > > them alot, and the one is ArcGIS are unbeatable (i dont know any > > O.S. > > > software that have 'autocomplete polygon', tons of snapping > > options, etc - > > > btw, if you do, let me know). > > > > > > FOSS is great, but it lacks (IMHO) better editing options. > > > > We are working on that: > > http://gr