RE: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
An excellent potted history of OSS is in Steven Weber's 'The Success of Open Source' Gavin Are you coming to www.foss4g2008.org? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: 21 August 2008 07:53 AM To: PROJ.4 and general Projections Discussions Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Users and Developers mailing list'; 'PostGIS Users Discussion' Subject: Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?) Norman Vine wrote: Mateusz Loskot writes Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit off topic?) George Silva wrote: Hello lists, As you can i see im mailing this message to some lists around the web (im sorry if thats a problem). At the moment i am writing my BSc thesis (Geography) focusing the development of a open source software and database for logging and analysing traffic accidents in Uberlândia, MG - Brazil. I am dedicating a chapter in my thesis to explaining Open Source Software, and OSS for GIS. i searched the web for some history of OSS in general, but i found too many different sources. So i come to you, developers of GIS OSS, to see if you can give me references of where to search for the history and process regarding this theme. George, Here is number of keywords related to history of FOSS4G and that you may google for and find details: - Sol Katz - Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) - GRASS History (http://grass.itc.it/devel/grasshist.html) - UMP MapServer history Mateusz Great credits but don't forgot http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/ or perhaps http://members.verizon.net/~vze2hc4d/proj4/ :-) Thanks Gerry !! Norman, Yes, I've forgot about these two. Thanks for completing. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
Rafal Wawer wrote: Thank you Markus, I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time for me to include it in the references (-; Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects? Rafal, Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list of dates I've identified: late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS) 1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS 2000 - GDAL gets Python support 2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV 2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS 2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS 2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects 2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS 2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS 2002 - MapServer gets Python support 2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS 2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS(bit offtopic?)
Thank you very much Mateusz. So far we are utilizing Paul Ramzsy's classification to language tribes and the utility groups from CASCADOSS inventory. A time dimension is a very nice add-on, especially that I am expecting a large growth in number of software projects becoming OSS4G to be visible during last years. Best regards: Pozdrawiam serdecznie: RAf Dr. Rafal Wawer K.U.Leuven RD Division SADL (Spatial Application Division) Celestijnenlaan 200e bus 2224 BE-3001 Leuven-Heverlee Belgium tel. 0032 16 329731 - Original Message - From: Mateusz Loskot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS(bit offtopic?) Rafal Wawer wrote: Thank you Markus, I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time for me to include it in the references (-; Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects? Rafal, Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list of dates I've identified: late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS) 1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS 2000 - GDAL gets Python support 2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV 2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS 2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS 2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects 2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS 2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS 2002 - MapServer gets Python support 2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS 2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
Mateusz Loskot wrote: 2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS MapServer started using CVS only in 2000, but existed since around 1995. Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
Hi all, In light of the EndOfLive announcement of Mapbuilder I have done some research on the history of mapbuilder: 29 september 2001 Mapbuilder-devel mailinglist created 28 july 2008 End Of Life announcement Regards Steven On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Rafal Wawer wrote: Thank you Markus, I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time for me to include it in the references (-; Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects? Rafal, Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list of dates I've identified: late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS) 1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS 2000 - GDAL gets Python support 2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV 2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS 2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS 2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects 2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS 2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS 2002 - MapServer gets Python support 2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS 2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and use of freenode for IRC
On 20-Aug-08, at 7:55 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: I have very similar experience about registering a group/project on Freenode. I've done it for MOSS4G and #moss4g channel (I understood I have to register to get registered channel) but with no response. Yes, the group registration took some time and was very manual, but cornering one of the admins online really helped :) I don't see any benefit, personally, to having a registered group managing all the OSGeo project channels as well. Since #osgeo is really the main one tied to an organisation. The main benefit is that no one can officially take over control of your channel for some reason, but if you've registered the channel already, then you already have full control. If you ever end up being concerned and don't want to risk anything, then rename your channel to include the #osgeo- prefix, e.g. #osgeo- moss4g. A few local chapter groups are already doing this e.g. #osgeo-fr #osgeo-es. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
someone might be interested in getting this historical info into the wikipedia entry for OSGeo - would also provide a good way for long term maintenance and updating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osgeo Dave On 21-Aug-08, at 11:41 AM, Steven M. Ottens wrote: Hi all, In light of the EndOfLive announcement of Mapbuilder I have done some research on the history of mapbuilder: 29 september 2001 Mapbuilder-devel mailinglist created 28 july 2008 End Of Life announcement Regards Steven On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Rafal Wawer wrote: Thank you Markus, I will teach FOSS4G upcoming days. The article appeared right on time for me to include it in the references (-; Hopefully it will develop to cover most of the existing FOSS4G projects. A roadmap of FOSS4G projects? Rafal, Recently, I've been writing a small article about FOSS in GIS with focus on Python applications and researched the history a bit. Here is a list of dates I've identified: late 70's - begin of Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) late 80's - US Army starts Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (GRASS) 1998 - GDAL initial revision in CVS 2000 - GDAL gets Python support 2000 - Atlantis Scientific starts OpenEV 2000 - MapServer initial revision in CVS 2001 - OSSIM initial revision in CVS 2002 - Intevation starts Thuban projects 2002 - Quantum GIS initial revision in CVS 2002 - GEOS initial revision in CVS 2002 - MapServer gets Python support 2002 - AVPython for ArcView 3.x published as FOSS 2006 - MapBender gets first bits in CVS Certainly, only a small part of FOSS4G projects are listed. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
