Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for OSGeo Slide Show/Presentation Material

2008-08-27 Thread Jacolin Yves
Le Wednesday 27 August 2008 02:12:10 Landon Blake, vous avez écrit :
 Thanks Aaron. I will look trough your presentations.
 Landon

 

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 Landon,

 I keep a few presentations (some focusing on OSGeo, but all open source
 related) archived at:

 http://www.reprojected.com/geoblog/presentations/

 feel free to grab whatever you might find useful.

 Aaron

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 I've been invited to give a presentation on OSGeo at the local GIS user
 group and my company has agreed to cover my time out of the office.
 (They even offered to sponsor the refreshments for the meeting.)

 I was hoping some other OSGeo members have done similar presentations.
 If anyone has material on the basics of the OSGeo (the organizations
 history, its goals, its structure) they would let me use in my own
 presentation I would really appreciate it.

 The presentation will be on October 23, 2008 in Jackson, California, if
 any nearby OSGeo members are interested in attending. (I'd welcome help
 with the presentation.)

 I'm hoping I can use the presentation to generate some more interest in
 OSGeo among local GIS users. I might also try to use it to kick-start a
 California or Central California OSGeo Chapter.

 The best part of this whole deal is the user group used to be dedicated
 to ESRI software. ESRI stopped sponsoring the local user groups so now
 they can have a wider variety of speakers. I've often wondered who in
 ESRI's marketing department made the decision to kill support for the
 local user groups...

 Landon

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Maybe you can check the OSGeo libray (hide somewhere) : 
http://www.osgeo.org/library.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Local Conference in USA

2008-08-27 Thread Jacolin Yves
Hi,

Maybe it is time to change the subject of this thread ;)

Regards,

Y.
Le Wednesday 27 August 2008 00:59:55 Landon Blake, vous avez écrit :
 Puneet wrote: a conference becomes too big to continue being useful.

 Do you mean too big as in number of people attending, too big as in
 number of topics presented, or too big in some other sense?

 Landon

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 On 8/27/08, Dave Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 2008/08/26 3:08 PM, James Fee wrote:
   I overheard someone say at GeoWeb 2008 that they could care less

 about

   FOSS4G outside of North America and they have no interest in what

 will

   probably be the next couple FOSS4Gs around the world.
 
   Hearing things like that, and the reactions about it being
   'impossible' for USA state and local government employees, etc.,
   make me wonder if there is any value in having the organizing
   committees of 'foreign' OSGeo events doing any marketing
   directly to such people.

 I wonder what is the cost of marketing directly to me?

 I wonder what is marketing directly to me?

 I don't remember seeing an what seemed like a paid ad for any
 MUM/FOSS4G conference in a paper magazine or also on a web site?

 Just curious.

 By the way, I am not a State/Local/Fed employee, yet, I too have
 little interest in these overseas, high-cost conferences, at least as
 long as I have no funding support for them. I do suspect that at some
 point, at least for me personally, a conference becomes too big to
 continue being useful.

   The glass half empty view would be that such marketing
   is 'a waste of time and money', because such people either
   aren't personally interested, or their workplace has policies
   that won't allow them to attend.
 
   The glass half full view is that by directly marketing
   to such people (who might want to self-identify, to make
   sure they are on the relevant 'marketing lists') they get
   the opportunity to have discussions with their supervisor(s),
   and that if, over time, enough people raise the issue enough
   times, along with examples of how other jurisdictions get
   value from sending their staff to 'foreign events', maybe
   things will change.
 
   --
   Dave Patton
   CIS Canadian Information Systems
   Victoria, B.C.
 
   Degree Confluence Project:
   Canadian Coordinator
   Technical Coordinator
   http://www.confluence.org/
 
   OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference:
   Workshop Committee Chair
   Conference Committee member
   http://www.foss4g2007.org/
 
   Personal website:
   Maps, GPS, etc.
   http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for OSGeo Slide Show/Presentation Material

2008-08-27 Thread Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
2008/8/27 Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've been invited to give a presentation on OSGeo at the local GIS user
 group and my company has agreed to cover my time out of the office. (They
 even offered to sponsor the refreshments for the meeting.)



 I was hoping some other OSGeo members have done similar presentations. If
 anyone has material on the basics of the OSGeo (the organizations history,
 its goals, its structure) they would let me use in my own presentation I
 would really appreciate it.



 The presentation will be on October 23, 2008 in Jackson, California, if any
 nearby OSGeo members are interested in attending. (I'd welcome help with the
 presentation.)



 I'm hoping I can use the presentation to generate some more interest in
 OSGeo among local GIS users. I might also try to use it to kick-start a
 California or Central California OSGeo Chapter.



 The best part of this whole deal is the user group used to be dedicated to
 ESRI software. ESRI stopped sponsoring the local user groups so now they can
 have a wider variety of speakers. I've often wondered who in ESRI's
 marketing department made the decision to kill support for the local user
 groups…



 Landon



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Landon,

I presented OSGeo in a geodesy students meeting here in Valencia (in
English) that could be a good start point for your presentation. It's
a little bit out of date about sponsors and incubation status of some
projects.

You have the ODP file at

https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/community/presentations/20080505-Valencia-IGSM/osgeo.odp

After your meeting it would be nice to have your slides somewhere available

Regards
-- 
Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for OSGeo Slide Show/Presentation Material

2008-08-27 Thread Jacolin Yves
Le Wednesday 27 August 2008 09:54:03 Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas, vous avez 
écrit :
 After your meeting it would be nice to have your slides somewhere available

Maybe we need to use the OSGeo Library more often, this is surely the best 
place for this, isn't it?

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Local Chapter, network and structuration

2008-08-27 Thread Landon Blake
Your points were excellently made Puneet, and I agree with them. 

Landon

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structuration

On 8/27/08, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Puneet wrote: a conference becomes too big to continue being useful.

  Do you mean too big as in number of people attending, too big as
in
  number of topics presented, or too big in some other sense?


To an extent, the above three senses are synonymous...

Too many people attending is a good indicator of the health of the
community, but makes interaction difficult. The number and quality of
interactions doesn't increase as the size of the gathering increases
-- in fact, one tends to mix/stay with the people one knows if the
gathering becomes too big, the large size almost acting as a deterrent
for accidental or even purposeful making of new connections.
Nevertheless, it is hard to complain about this sense without sounding
petty.

Too many topics being presented is a major problem because one is torn
between the sessions as they are juggled and scheduled in a fixed
number days leading to many interesting sessions being held
concurrently. I have often thought that the best conference would be
one in which I could attend all the sessions without missing any, if I
so wanted to... which really means no concurrent sessions at all. When
sessions are arranged in distinct tracks, this problem alleviates to
some degree, but the tracks have to be sufficiently disparate and
different -- for example, OSCON has separate Perl, Python, Ruby, PHP
tracks... since I am a Perl guy, I can happily chose to miss the other
tracks. However, if there is a parallel JavaScript or Apache track as
well, then I am screwed, because as a web developer JS/Apache are
central to my development needs. Making such distinct tracks becomes
difficult in a FOSS4G/MUM type conference... I am interested in mostly
everything, so missing out on good sessions is not good.

To some extent, too many topics being presented is a function of too
many people presenting is a function of too many people attending. To
attract too many people, the conference has to have too many
presentations, has to program too big and exotic social gatherings,
has to rent too big a conference space, has to advertise too much to
reach too many people in the first place, has to raise the price of
registration too high to recoup the money... all this is
inter-related. The next organizer seeks to outdo the previous one,
and the cycle continues even stronger. I guess somewhere in this is
the cost of marketing the conference directly that started some of
this conversation in the first place.

From the first MUM1 (still my favorite gathering of all... we were all
new to each other, and meeting for the first time, we were putting
faces to names... it was like a family separated at birth meeting for
the first time... sniff... I am getting sentimental) which was small
and unassuming and cost about $100 or so in registration, and I
believe about $45 or so for rooms at the local Days Inn (I believe
there were also some dorm rooms available) to the next month's
conference in Cape Town that has a registration fee  $500, it has
been a high jump.

Focused on consciously keeping the conference cheap, small, and
friendly seems contrarian to the notion of success in a Darwinian
evolutionary sense, but whatever will be will be. Conferences will
grow, and some of its audience will get turned off and turn to other
venues and avenues... and so, it shall come to pass.



  Landon

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  structuration


 On 8/27/08, Dave Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 2008/08/26 3:08 PM, James Fee wrote:
  
I overheard someone say at GeoWeb 2008 that they could care less
  about
FOSS4G outside of North America and they have no interest in what
  will
probably be the next couple FOSS4Gs around the world.
   
  
Hearing things like that, and the reactions about it being
'impossible' for USA state and local government employees, etc.,
make me wonder if there is any value in having the organizing
committees of 'foreign' OSGeo events doing any marketing
directly to such people.

  I wonder what is the cost of marketing directly to me?

  I wonder what is marketing directly to me?

  I don't remember seeing an what seemed like a paid ad for any
  MUM/FOSS4G conference in a paper magazine or also on a web site?

  Just curious.

  By the way, I am not a State/Local/Fed employee, yet, I too have
  little interest in these overseas, high-cost conferences, at least as
  long as I have no funding support 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] osor.eu - GIS Software Community

2008-08-27 Thread Mateusz Loskot

Theodoros G. Karounos wrote:

The GIS (Geographic Information System) Software Community aims at
supporting the development and referencing the open source geospatial
software on the OSOR. The OSOR GIS Community's goal is to promote
exchange of software and experience, and to encourage the use and
collaborative development of community-led projects. The OSOR GIS
community evolves: this web page is updated regularly.

The OSOR GIS Community workshop (pdfAgenda) - held in Brussels on 27
June 2008 - initiated the building of the community, and discussed how
the OSOR could help the Public Administrations in the re-use and
efficient development of GIS software. The exchange of experience
during the workshop proved very helpful to the attendees, and it was
decided to dedicate a section on the OSOR for further exchanges.

Following the workshop, the Open Data Spatial Publishing project was
initiated on the OSOR, aiming at discussing the need for a license for
the publication of spatial data that guarantees the legal
compatibility of data shared and integrated in an SDI. A mailing list
will soon be set up.

Further collaboration is foreseen and currently under discussion with
other existing GIS networks.
...
http://osor.eu/communities



Theodoros,

AFAIK, OSOR is somehow related to Cascadoss activities.
Does OSOR collaborate with Cascadoss partners in any way?

I'm also interested to learn about how OSOR relates to OSGeo Foundation 
activities. Does OSOR aim to duplicate OSGeo Foundation activities on 
the european soil?


It seems there is potential of synergism between these two entities.

Best regards,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Resource viewer for grama panchayat

2008-08-27 Thread നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍
Hai.., Excuse me that, I couldnt reply promptly as I was in a tour for a few
days.

2008/8/23 RAVI KUMAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 good work at GRASS routes. India is just waiting for this kind of projects
 where GIS can help the billions.
 Please send me a personal mail with details, possibly with some scxreen
 shots.


Yah, I will send it to you shortly. Problem is that I don't have a computer
for myself, and away from my workplace. So every files relating to the
project were written on optical media, and I need to search the screenshots
on that.


 For OSGeo India we have done work for Rajahmundry MP constituency.


Ah.., can you gimme the link?


 On behalf of OSGeo India we have a 3 day event at Pune and will be great to
 site your example.


Thanks in advance, Shall I send my thesis presentation slides to you (It is
my MSc project)?


 Keep it up
 Ravi Kumar
 Joint Secretory
 OSGeo India chapter

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 Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 1:11 AM


 Hai,
 Let me introduce my work to the list:-

 http://cheruvannur.web4all.in/resources/

 Hope, I can hear valuable suggestions.

 It is hosted on a Debian GNU/Linux Etch server. It was my main project
 during my M.Sc. course in last semester, and I decided to do this because I
 wanted to do something useful for the panchayat - my first employer
 :) (Panchayats are the rural local authorities in India, just like
 Municipalities - the urban thing.) My course is just finished.

 I developed this thing, on a Debian GNU/Linux Etch system using GRASS GIS,
 PostgreSQL with PostGIS, Quantum GIS, UMN MapServer, ka-Map etc. Coded in
 MapScript and php. All are Free/Open Source things.

 I want to expand this to the entire district with some added query modules,
 such as shortest route to a place, maximum coverage for some areas, flood
 risk analysis etc, to make it a complete plan-development support system.

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