Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?
Cameron, On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Marina, (small correction: Maria) That is a good example. To be complete, could you also answer: * What would be the proprietary equivalent software you would use? I'll leave that to Maria. * Why did you decide to use GRASS instead of proprietary software? (Hopefully more than it was cheaper) ... note that she actually *author* of the code. She and her team have developed it over the last years. * It seems you are officiated with a University? She is professor there. Industry is more convinced by case studies that come out of industry, as universities are often associated with smart geeks, who have a high tollerance to things going wrong because they can fix it themselves. Is there a non-education affilition you can draw upon? Did you do this work for a governement department or similar? I leave this again to Maria. Best Markus maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote: Dear Cameron if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed commands into GRASS. They have to be used in sequence. http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html A detailed description is available here: http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48sessionId=59resId=7materialId=slidesconfId=1 a more recent and summarised version can be found here: http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf We worked also on calibration of the filtering parameters (around 20 parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are available here: http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf I hope it helps. Cheers. Maria - Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international Surveyors conference here in Sydney. http://www.fig2010.com/ I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should focus on during the presentation. Feedback from Surveyors welcomed. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?
Hi Cameron Def. Quota Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com: Thank you Marina, That is a good example. To be complete, could you also answer: * What would be the proprietary equivalent software you would use? to filter the LiDAr point cloud the most used software is Terrasolid Terrascan (http://www.3dlasermapping.com/en/airborne/software/terrascan.htm) which is a very powefull tool. * Why did you decide to use GRASS instead of proprietary software? (Hopefully more than it was cheaper) because we developed original algorithms for filtering. In any case filtering LiDAR data with a high accuracy level is quite impossible if you decide to simply use an authomatic procedure. Our method can be an alternative to Terrascan (being the algorithms completely different from those implemented in Terrascan) to verify the authomatic detection of terrain points. * It seems you are officiated with a University? Industry is more convinced by case studies that come out of industry, as universities are often associated with smart geeks, who have a high tollerance to things going wrong because they can fix it themselves. Is there a non-education affilition you can draw upon? Did you do this work for a governement department or similar? No, I work at Politecnico di Milano (so, University) and the development of such tools has been made in the frame of a national (italian) research project. Cheers. Maria maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote: Dear Cameron if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed commands into GRASS. They have to be used in sequence. http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html A detailed description is available here: http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48sessionId=59resId=7materialId=slidesconfId=1 a more recent and summarised version can be found here: http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf We worked also on calibration of the filtering parameters (around 20 parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are available here: http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf I hope it helps. Cheers. Maria - Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international Surveyors conference here in Sydney. http://www.fig2010.com/ I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should focus on during the presentation. Feedback from Surveyors welcomed. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Whitebox GAT (Chris Puttick)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?
Maria, Under what circumstances should we recommend people use GRASS over Terrasolid Terrascan, and under what circumstances should they stick with Terrasolid Terrascan? I can see that GRASS is better if you plan to write your own algorithm, because you have access to the source code. I'm hoping that we can recommend GRASS for more than that? Do people chain GRASS inside Web Processing Services? maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote: Hi Cameron Def. Quota Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com: Thank you Marina, That is a good example. To be complete, could you also answer: * What would be the proprietary equivalent software you would use? to filter the LiDAr point cloud the most used software is Terrasolid Terrascan (http://www.3dlasermapping.com/en/airborne/software/terrascan.htm) which is a very powefull tool. * Why did you decide to use GRASS instead of proprietary software? (Hopefully more than it was cheaper) because we developed original algorithms for filtering. In any case filtering LiDAR data with a high accuracy level is quite impossible if you decide to simply use an authomatic procedure. Our method can be an alternative to Terrascan (being the algorithms completely different from those implemented in Terrascan) to verify the authomatic detection of terrain points. * It seems you are officiated with a University? Industry is more convinced by case studies that come out of industry, as universities are often associated with smart geeks, who have a high tollerance to things going wrong because they can fix it themselves. Is there a non-education affilition you can draw upon? Did you do this work for a governement department or similar? No, I work at Politecnico di Milano (so, University) and the development of such tools has been made in the frame of a national (italian) research project. Cheers. Maria maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote: Dear Cameron if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed commands into GRASS. They have to be used in sequence. http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html A detailed description is available here: http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48sessionId=59resId=7materialId=slidesconfId=1 a more recent and summarised version can be found here: http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf We worked also on calibration of the filtering parameters (around 20 parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are available here: http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf I hope it helps. Cheers. Maria - Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international Surveyors conference here in Sydney. http://www.fig2010.com/ I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should focus on during the presentation. Feedback from Surveyors welcomed. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Files attached to this email may be in ISO 26300 format (OASIS Open Document Format). If you have difficulty opening them, please visit http://iso26300.info for more information. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open source desktop shootout
Hmmm, thanks for that link Cameron, but that's not what I'm remembering! :-) I specifically remember it being related to the Quebec FOSS4G-NA... Can anyone else help me with this? Alternatively, should we start a wiki page on OSGEO.org that specifies the capabilities that desktop GIS have/should have? BTW, We are planning on burning some liveDVDs to hand out at our conference... Thanks, Percy Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:38:45 +1100 From: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open source desktop shootout To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Message-ID: 4bb42355.5000...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Percy, Maybe you are remembering the email discussion titled: [OSGeo-Discuss] Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout at FOSS4G 2010? http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2009-December/006494.html http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2009-December/thread.html As a contribution to this thread, the LiveDVD project can contribute to this shootout, in that we have many of the desktops already packaged, along with 1 page descriptions of each project. And I'd love to include documentation or tables into the liveDVD which help users select between different applications. percy wrote: Does anyone have any info on the desktop comparison (shootout/smackdown) planned for FOSS4G-NA in Quebec next year? I'm sure I saw an announcement about this somewhere, but the google is failing me :-) We are doing a similar event at our regional GIS in Action conference in two weeks, and it would be great to see if there has already been a matrix of capabilities established (cartography, analysis, etc) that we can use and contribute to. Thanks, Percy -- David Percy Geospatial Data Manager Geology Department Portland State University http://gisgeek.pdx.edu 503-725-3373 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss