Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-10 Thread Cameron Shorter

Dave,
So maybe we should have 1-5 stars (or osgeo logos) which is quickly 
visually understood by our target audience, and that is followed by a 
word or two describing each star rating.


5 logos (not used yet)
4 logos (very mature - passed osgeo incubation)
3 logos (mature - started or ready to start osgeo incubation process)
2 logos (stable - puts our stable, tested releases which are used in 
production)

1 logo (beta software)

Dave Patton wrote:

On 2010/06/04 1:49 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

For the OSGeo LiveDVD and OSGeo marketing material, I propose we use
a 5 star maturity rating. This is because it is too difficult to
explain in a couple of words, the difference between: Graduated,
In Incubation, Stable, Beta Again, I'm interested to hear
comments on whether I have defined a good rating system, before we
set it in stone.


Don't use any rating system, as that implies to most people
some (usually subjective) judgment. For example, people looking
at marketing materials might think it reflects on product quality.
It sounds to me like you want to define a simple categorization
system, not a rating system.

Don't use stars, because again, it's too often used as a visual
indicator in rating systems.

I'm still not convinced in my own mind that doing something as
simple as calling it a Maturity Categorization, and using
from 1 to 5 OSGeo Logos vs using stars would provide a
solution that would be acceptable.




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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-10 Thread Cameron Shorter

On 11/06/10 01:59, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

(Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation 
means...)


Ready to start incubation implies that projects that have applied for, 
or are mature enough to apply, can be ranked at the same level as 
projects in incubation.


I propose we use OSGeo's criteria for selecting incubation candidates here:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html

(At some point we should revisit OSGeo's checklists, but lets leave that 
for another email thread and for the moment we use what we have).



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   Criteria

  1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data  doc projects
 need to specify their choice for a type of license).
  2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances
  3. The project is geospatial, or directly in support of geospatial
 applications.


   Desirable

The following are desirable traits of projects entering into the community:

  1. Open source software is already reasonably mature (working quality
 code).
  2. Project already has a substantial user community.
  3. Project already has a substantial and diverse developer community.
  4. Project members are aware of, and implements support for, relevant
 standards (ie. OGC, etc).
  5. Project has linkages with existing foundation projects.
  6. Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation supports.
  7. Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion.
  8. Project has contributions and interest from more than just one
 company/organization.
  9. Project is willing to migrate some or all of its infrastructure
 (code repository, web site, wiki, mailing list, etc) to foundation
 support infrastructure, and to adopt a website style consistent
 with the foundation.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Rendez-vous OSGeo Quebec 2010 is less than a week away!

2010-06-10 Thread brian heap
will osgeo have a presence at the Canadian hydrographic conference in  
Quebec City starting June 19?



On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:


Hi Everyone,

It is with great pleasure that I remind you all that the Rendez-vous  
OSGeo-Québec (http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/) is less than a  
week away!


It is next week, on Tuesday and Wednesday, June 15-16, that I will  
have the opportunity to welcome you in Saguenay, my home town! This  
means that you only have a few days left to register online at http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/inscription/ 
 ... and be part part of two exciting and memorable days where free  
and open source geospatial software will be at the center of all  
discussions, and you will have the chance to hear and chat with some  
of the key players of OSGeo in North America, and even some from as  
far as France!


All the details of our program are available online at 
http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/programme/

And I remind you that in addition to the international and local  
conference program, in the OSGeo fashion, social/networking  
activities are planned for each night, including an ice breaker (5  
à 7) on Tuesday, and a boat cruise on the Saguenay Fjord on  
Wednesday in collaboration with Vision Geomatique, another GIS event  
that will take place right after at the same location.


Looking forward to meeting you on Tuesday!

(See also 
http://dmorissette.blogspot.com/2010/06/rendez-vous-osgeo-quebec-2010-is-less.html)

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-10 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
 that projects that have applied for

Good...

 or are mature enough to apply

...But does mature enough mean Criteria 1-3 are met, or that some of the 
Desirables are met too, or..?

-mpg


From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:45 PM
To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

On 11/06/10 01:59, Michael P. Gerlek wrote:

(Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation 
means...)

Ready to start incubation implies that projects that have applied for, or are 
mature enough to apply, can be ranked at the same level as projects in 
incubation.

I propose we use OSGeo's criteria for selecting incubation candidates here:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html

(At some point we should revisit OSGeo's checklists, but lets leave that for 
another email thread and for the moment we use what we have).




--

Cameron Shorter

Criteria

 1.  The code is under an OSI approved license (data  doc projects need to 
specify their choice for a type of license).
 2.  The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances
 3.  The project is geospatial, or directly in support of geospatial 
applications.

Desirable
The following are desirable traits of projects entering into the community:

 1.  Open source software is already reasonably mature (working quality code).
 2.  Project already has a substantial user community.
 3.  Project already has a substantial and diverse developer community.
 4.  Project members are aware of, and implements support for, relevant 
standards (ie. OGC, etc).
 5.  Project has linkages with existing foundation projects.
 6.  Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation supports.
 7.  Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion.
 8.  Project has contributions and interest from more than just one 
company/organization.
 9.  Project is willing to migrate some or all of its infrastructure (code 
repository, web site, wiki, mailing list, etc) to foundation support 
infrastructure, and to adopt a website style consistent with the foundation.

Geospatial Director

Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050

Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254



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http://www.lisasoft.com
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating

2010-06-10 Thread Jody Garnett
Your comments on specific logos for specific items is good; and amounts to a 
very light feature comparison.

GeoTools ran into the limits of our own 5 star system; we ended up needing a 
different set of stars depending on the the kind of module being described. 
The limit was when we entered the incubation process and needed to verify 
that a module had passed its IP check. This introduced a strict pass/fail into 
what was formally a reflection of quality.
- http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOT/Gold+Star+Quality+Assurance+Check

 (Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation 
 means...)

Nothing ... the incubation process is there to help projects. It is graduation 
that says something about a project (and mostly about a projects organisation).

Jody

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