Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
Dave, So maybe we should have 1-5 stars (or osgeo logos) which is quickly visually understood by our target audience, and that is followed by a word or two describing each star rating. 5 logos (not used yet) 4 logos (very mature - passed osgeo incubation) 3 logos (mature - started or ready to start osgeo incubation process) 2 logos (stable - puts our stable, tested releases which are used in production) 1 logo (beta software) Dave Patton wrote: On 2010/06/04 1:49 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: For the OSGeo LiveDVD and OSGeo marketing material, I propose we use a 5 star maturity rating. This is because it is too difficult to explain in a couple of words, the difference between: Graduated, In Incubation, Stable, Beta Again, I'm interested to hear comments on whether I have defined a good rating system, before we set it in stone. Don't use any rating system, as that implies to most people some (usually subjective) judgment. For example, people looking at marketing materials might think it reflects on product quality. It sounds to me like you want to define a simple categorization system, not a rating system. Don't use stars, because again, it's too often used as a visual indicator in rating systems. I'm still not convinced in my own mind that doing something as simple as calling it a Maturity Categorization, and using from 1 to 5 OSGeo Logos vs using stars would provide a solution that would be acceptable. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
On 11/06/10 01:59, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: (Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation means...) Ready to start incubation implies that projects that have applied for, or are mature enough to apply, can be ranked at the same level as projects in incubation. I propose we use OSGeo's criteria for selecting incubation candidates here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html (At some point we should revisit OSGeo's checklists, but lets leave that for another email thread and for the moment we use what we have). -- Cameron Shorter Criteria 1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data doc projects need to specify their choice for a type of license). 2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances 3. The project is geospatial, or directly in support of geospatial applications. Desirable The following are desirable traits of projects entering into the community: 1. Open source software is already reasonably mature (working quality code). 2. Project already has a substantial user community. 3. Project already has a substantial and diverse developer community. 4. Project members are aware of, and implements support for, relevant standards (ie. OGC, etc). 5. Project has linkages with existing foundation projects. 6. Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation supports. 7. Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion. 8. Project has contributions and interest from more than just one company/organization. 9. Project is willing to migrate some or all of its infrastructure (code repository, web site, wiki, mailing list, etc) to foundation support infrastructure, and to adopt a website style consistent with the foundation. Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Rendez-vous OSGeo Quebec 2010 is less than a week away!
will osgeo have a presence at the Canadian hydrographic conference in Quebec City starting June 19? On Jun 9, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote: Hi Everyone, It is with great pleasure that I remind you all that the Rendez-vous OSGeo-Québec (http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/) is less than a week away! It is next week, on Tuesday and Wednesday, June 15-16, that I will have the opportunity to welcome you in Saguenay, my home town! This means that you only have a few days left to register online at http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/inscription/ ... and be part part of two exciting and memorable days where free and open source geospatial software will be at the center of all discussions, and you will have the chance to hear and chat with some of the key players of OSGeo in North America, and even some from as far as France! All the details of our program are available online at http://rendez-vous-osgeo-qc.org/2010/programme/ And I remind you that in addition to the international and local conference program, in the OSGeo fashion, social/networking activities are planned for each night, including an ice breaker (5 à 7) on Tuesday, and a boat cruise on the Saguenay Fjord on Wednesday in collaboration with Vision Geomatique, another GIS event that will take place right after at the same location. Looking forward to meeting you on Tuesday! (See also http://dmorissette.blogspot.com/2010/06/rendez-vous-osgeo-quebec-2010-is-less.html) Daniel -- Daniel Morissette http://www.mapgears.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
that projects that have applied for Good... or are mature enough to apply ...But does mature enough mean Criteria 1-3 are met, or that some of the Desirables are met too, or..? -mpg From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:45 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating On 11/06/10 01:59, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: (Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation means...) Ready to start incubation implies that projects that have applied for, or are mature enough to apply, can be ranked at the same level as projects in incubation. I propose we use OSGeo's criteria for selecting incubation candidates here: http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html (At some point we should revisit OSGeo's checklists, but lets leave that for another email thread and for the moment we use what we have). -- Cameron Shorter Criteria 1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data doc projects need to specify their choice for a type of license). 2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances 3. The project is geospatial, or directly in support of geospatial applications. Desirable The following are desirable traits of projects entering into the community: 1. Open source software is already reasonably mature (working quality code). 2. Project already has a substantial user community. 3. Project already has a substantial and diverse developer community. 4. Project members are aware of, and implements support for, relevant standards (ie. OGC, etc). 5. Project has linkages with existing foundation projects. 6. Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation supports. 7. Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion. 8. Project has contributions and interest from more than just one company/organization. 9. Project is willing to migrate some or all of its infrastructure (code repository, web site, wiki, mailing list, etc) to foundation support infrastructure, and to adopt a website style consistent with the foundation. Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 5 Star OSGeo project maturity rating
Your comments on specific logos for specific items is good; and amounts to a very light feature comparison. GeoTools ran into the limits of our own 5 star system; we ended up needing a different set of stars depending on the the kind of module being described. The limit was when we entered the incubation process and needed to verify that a module had passed its IP check. This introduced a strict pass/fail into what was formally a reflection of quality. - http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOT/Gold+Star+Quality+Assurance+Check (Along those lines, I'd also ask precisely what ready to start incubation means...) Nothing ... the incubation process is there to help projects. It is graduation that says something about a project (and mostly about a projects organisation). Jody ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss