Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 16/06/2012 22:58, Angelos Tzotsos ha scritto: I totally agree with Stefano and Maria. We should try to join forces and learn from each other. Especially smaller groups like the Greek Chapter can benefit a lot in experience and promotion through such procedures and grow faster. Hi all. In Italy we have a long history of successful meetings; we (the GFOSS community at large) started with GRASS meetings, and in the last 4 years we (the GFOSS.it association) have also added (at 6 months interval) a GFOSS Days meeting. The two have different aims, the first more academic, the second more targeted towards Public Administration and business, even though many key people attend both. My suggestion for a Mediterranean (or whatever) meeting: focus clearly on a target, do not try to catch everybody: business meeting should be organized differently form, say developer ones. If you think we can be of help,just ask. All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia www.faunalia.eu Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc Nuovi corsi: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/e2zYACgkQ/NedwLUzIr4F6QCfXkqmhu9TRSQ0Lp1XYwZsTNdR R/YAn3+Yq85RFeccHdk1wjJCzooqkjeJ =sHb1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America FOSS4G conference. Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any possible way to those who preceded me. The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an international and regional conferences. Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences. Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise. So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of you to argue in favor :) or against! One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting from 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)). If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more. Thanks for the consideration of both proposals, Dimitris Kotzinos __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/discusshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Jachym Cepicky Help Service - Remote Sensing s.r.o. jachym.cepi...@gmail.com HS-RS: jac...@hsrs.cz http://bnhelp.cz http://les-ejk.cz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
Hi, thanks Jachym for bringing up the smei-regional events. My preference lies towards having one global event a year and also *real* regional events, but no semi-regional events. Before I come to more details about what I think a real regional event is, I'd like to state that I think FOSS4G-CEE is real regional event, FOSS4G-NA is a semi-regional. What I understand under real regional events (they are not sorted by any priority, I just give them numbers for later reference): 1. In the language of the chapter if that's possible. FOSSGIS (Germany), GFOSS (Italy), the conf (currently only a day) from OSGeo.nl (Netherlads) are examples. FOSS4G-CEE is an exception, there's no common language in the area, hence it's in English. 2. Attracting people from the region. At least at the FOSSGIS the audience it quite different from the global FOSS4G. The FOSSGIS attracts more governmental people and end users. There are even talks about people using the software for their work (I find them boring, as I'm a dev, but I think it is interesting for a lot of people). 3. You can hardly tell your boss to send you to the regional event, except you are from this region. How's that different from a semi-regional event. Point (2) is the most important one for me here. If there is an NA event (and a potential EU one), it will attract more people, but at what price? I think you can't tell your boss that you need to go to a global and to a NA (resp. EU) event + a regional one. So you would need to chose between the global and the semi-regional one, which would make both of them a bit smaller. My solution for this problem is: Don't do semi-regional events. The FOSS4G-NA just spans a way too big region. Many, if not even the majority of the Open Source geospatial development happens in the US and Canada. You will attract people from abroad as so many of the major players will be there. Just do real regional events instead. Do e.g. a California one. The local chapter is quite huge (I gave a talk there a year ago, and there were about 100 RSVP). Do this on several places in NA (e.g. a Midwest one). Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America FOSS4G conference. Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any possible way to those who preceded me. The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an international and regional conferences. Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences. Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise. So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of you to argue in favor :) or against! One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement also integrating in it the Central-Eastern Europe event) starting from 2014. I volunteer Greece to host the first such event (OK, given that things in Greece will not turn out too bad :)). If there is an initial agreement we can organize things a bit more. Thanks for the consideration of both proposals, Dimitris Kotzinos __**_ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
Volker, I see your point - you are not writing it for the first time. Truth is, there was strong request for FOSS4G-E during CEE event. Do you want to prohibit it? I would better support it. Certainly it means loss for the global FOSS4G. Does it mean win for OSGeo? I think so. We just have to talk about the proper model. Jachym Dne 18.6.2012 14:44, Volker Mische napsal(a): Hi, thanks Jachym for bringing up the smei-regional events. My preference lies towards having one global event a year and also *real* regional events, but no semi-regional events. Before I come to more details about what I think a real regional event is, I'd like to state that I think FOSS4G-CEE is real regional event, FOSS4G-NA is a semi-regional. What I understand under real regional events (they are not sorted by any priority, I just give them numbers for later reference): 1. In the language of the chapter if that's possible. FOSSGIS (Germany), GFOSS (Italy), the conf (currently only a day) from OSGeo.nl (Netherlads) are examples. FOSS4G-CEE is an exception, there's no common language in the area, hence it's in English. 2. Attracting people from the region. At least at the FOSSGIS the audience it quite different from the global FOSS4G. The FOSSGIS attracts more governmental people and end users. There are even talks about people using the software for their work (I find them boring, as I'm a dev, but I think it is interesting for a lot of people). 3. You can hardly tell your boss to send you to the regional event, except you are from this region. How's that different from a semi-regional event. Point (2) is the most important one for me here. If there is an NA event (and a potential EU one), it will attract more people, but at what price? I think you can't tell your boss that you need to go to a global and to a NA (resp. EU) event + a regional one. So you would need to chose between the global and the semi-regional one, which would make both of them a bit smaller. My solution for this problem is: Don't do semi-regional events. The FOSS4G-NA just spans a way too big region. Many, if not even the majority of the Open Source geospatial development happens in the US and Canada. You will attract people from abroad as so many of the major players will be there. Just do real regional events instead. Do e.g. a California one. The local chapter is quite huge (I gave a talk there a year ago, and there were about 100 RSVP). Do this on several places in NA (e.g. a Midwest one). Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America FOSS4G conference. Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any possible way to those who preceded me. The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an international and regional conferences. Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences. Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise. So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of you to argue in favor :) or against! One final note for the European participation on this list: I suggest that we start organizing a regional European level FOSS4G (if there is agreement also integrating in it the
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
Hey Volker, personally I don't think this denial approach will work. FOSS4G-NA has already happened, and it will continue to happen, at the same scale or maybe even larger (preparation time was very short). IMHO any event that promotes free and open source for geospatial is a good thing, even if this is at the expense of the meeting of the tribes. That should not be our main focus, even though for me that is the main reason to attend. Best regards, Bart -- Bart van den Eijnden OSGIS - http://osgis.nl On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Volker Mische wrote: Hi, thanks Jachym for bringing up the smei-regional events. My preference lies towards having one global event a year and also *real* regional events, but no semi-regional events. Before I come to more details about what I think a real regional event is, I'd like to state that I think FOSS4G-CEE is real regional event, FOSS4G-NA is a semi-regional. What I understand under real regional events (they are not sorted by any priority, I just give them numbers for later reference): 1. In the language of the chapter if that's possible. FOSSGIS (Germany), GFOSS (Italy), the conf (currently only a day) from OSGeo.nl (Netherlads) are examples. FOSS4G-CEE is an exception, there's no common language in the area, hence it's in English. 2. Attracting people from the region. At least at the FOSSGIS the audience it quite different from the global FOSS4G. The FOSSGIS attracts more governmental people and end users. There are even talks about people using the software for their work (I find them boring, as I'm a dev, but I think it is interesting for a lot of people). 3. You can hardly tell your boss to send you to the regional event, except you are from this region. How's that different from a semi-regional event. Point (2) is the most important one for me here. If there is an NA event (and a potential EU one), it will attract more people, but at what price? I think you can't tell your boss that you need to go to a global and to a NA (resp. EU) event + a regional one. So you would need to chose between the global and the semi-regional one, which would make both of them a bit smaller. My solution for this problem is: Don't do semi-regional events. The FOSS4G-NA just spans a way too big region. Many, if not even the majority of the Open Source geospatial development happens in the US and Canada. You will attract people from abroad as so many of the major players will be there. Just do real regional events instead. Do e.g. a California one. The local chapter is quite huge (I gave a talk there a year ago, and there were about 100 RSVP). Do this on several places in NA (e.g. a Midwest one). Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America FOSS4G conference. Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any possible way to those who preceded me. The purpose of my e-mail though is a bit different. Taking into account the fact the this year we had the North America regional conference, the central European regional conference and now the Latin America Regional Conference I feel that it is due time to move to a mixed scheme of an international and regional conferences. Thus I propose that we have the odd years (starting from 2013) ONLY the international event (our very successful FOSS4G conference) and the even years (starting from 2014) ONLY the regional conferences. Being in a world in crisis where funding for travel becomes more difficult and where people cannot participate in too many conferences in a year I feel that this is an acceptable compromise. So I call upon the board to decide on this proposal and, of course, all of you to argue in favor :) or
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
Hi Bart, good points. You are right, spreading open source geospatial is a good thing. Your mail really changed my view. Perhaps I'm blind on one I eye, because I just enjoyed the previous FOSS4G's so much, that I try to do everything to keep it. Hence I should perhaps have written it under the tagline: if we don't want to lose the gathering of the developer tribes, I think we should But perhaps things must change and we can get the same nice warm fuzzy feelings the FOSS4Gs had for developers in some other way. Like moving only the yearly aspects, like the AGM, Sol Katz award, Board F2F meeting and the code sprint (perhaps even extended?) to one of the semi-regional events. Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 03:25 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: Hey Volker, personally I don't think this denial approach will work. FOSS4G-NA has already happened, and it will continue to happen, at the same scale or maybe even larger (preparation time was very short). IMHO any event that promotes free and open source for geospatial is a good thing, even if this is at the expense of the meeting of the tribes. That should not be our main focus, even though for me that is the main reason to attend. Best regards, Bart -- Bart van den Eijnden OSGIS - http://osgis.nl On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Volker Mische wrote: Hi, thanks Jachym for bringing up the smei-regional events. My preference lies towards having one global event a year and also *real* regional events, but no semi-regional events. Before I come to more details about what I think a real regional event is, I'd like to state that I think FOSS4G-CEE is real regional event, FOSS4G-NA is a semi-regional. What I understand under real regional events (they are not sorted by any priority, I just give them numbers for later reference): 1. In the language of the chapter if that's possible. FOSSGIS (Germany), GFOSS (Italy), the conf (currently only a day) from OSGeo.nl http://OSGeo.nl (Netherlads) are examples. FOSS4G-CEE is an exception, there's no common language in the area, hence it's in English. 2. Attracting people from the region. At least at the FOSSGIS the audience it quite different from the global FOSS4G. The FOSSGIS attracts more governmental people and end users. There are even talks about people using the software for their work (I find them boring, as I'm a dev, but I think it is interesting for a lot of people). 3. You can hardly tell your boss to send you to the regional event, except you are from this region. How's that different from a semi-regional event. Point (2) is the most important one for me here. If there is an NA event (and a potential EU one), it will attract more people, but at what price? I think you can't tell your boss that you need to go to a global and to a NA (resp. EU) event + a regional one. So you would need to chose between the global and the semi-regional one, which would make both of them a bit smaller. My solution for this problem is: Don't do semi-regional events. The FOSS4G-NA just spans a way too big region. Many, if not even the majority of the Open Source geospatial development happens in the US and Canada. You will attract people from abroad as so many of the major players will be there. Just do real regional events instead. Do e.g. a California one. The local chapter is quite huge (I gave a talk there a year ago, and there were about 100 RSVP). Do this on several places in NA (e.g. a Midwest one). Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr mailto:kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing the 1st Latin America FOSS4G conference. Congrats to the friends there and let me add my offer to help in any possible way to those who preceded me. The purpose of my e-mail
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
Jachym, Karel, I hope this mail was general enough so it can be seen as a reply to your mails as well. Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 03:59 PM, Volker Mische wrote: Hi Bart, good points. You are right, spreading open source geospatial is a good thing. Your mail really changed my view. Perhaps I'm blind on one I eye, because I just enjoyed the previous FOSS4G's so much, that I try to do everything to keep it. Hence I should perhaps have written it under the tagline: if we don't want to lose the gathering of the developer tribes, I think we should But perhaps things must change and we can get the same nice warm fuzzy feelings the FOSS4Gs had for developers in some other way. Like moving only the yearly aspects, like the AGM, Sol Katz award, Board F2F meeting and the code sprint (perhaps even extended?) to one of the semi-regional events. Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 03:25 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote: Hey Volker, personally I don't think this denial approach will work. FOSS4G-NA has already happened, and it will continue to happen, at the same scale or maybe even larger (preparation time was very short). IMHO any event that promotes free and open source for geospatial is a good thing, even if this is at the expense of the meeting of the tribes. That should not be our main focus, even though for me that is the main reason to attend. Best regards, Bart -- Bart van den Eijnden OSGIS - http://osgis.nl On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Volker Mische wrote: Hi, thanks Jachym for bringing up the smei-regional events. My preference lies towards having one global event a year and also *real* regional events, but no semi-regional events. Before I come to more details about what I think a real regional event is, I'd like to state that I think FOSS4G-CEE is real regional event, FOSS4G-NA is a semi-regional. What I understand under real regional events (they are not sorted by any priority, I just give them numbers for later reference): 1. In the language of the chapter if that's possible. FOSSGIS (Germany), GFOSS (Italy), the conf (currently only a day) from OSGeo.nl http://OSGeo.nl (Netherlads) are examples. FOSS4G-CEE is an exception, there's no common language in the area, hence it's in English. 2. Attracting people from the region. At least at the FOSSGIS the audience it quite different from the global FOSS4G. The FOSSGIS attracts more governmental people and end users. There are even talks about people using the software for their work (I find them boring, as I'm a dev, but I think it is interesting for a lot of people). 3. You can hardly tell your boss to send you to the regional event, except you are from this region. How's that different from a semi-regional event. Point (2) is the most important one for me here. If there is an NA event (and a potential EU one), it will attract more people, but at what price? I think you can't tell your boss that you need to go to a global and to a NA (resp. EU) event + a regional one. So you would need to chose between the global and the semi-regional one, which would make both of them a bit smaller. My solution for this problem is: Don't do semi-regional events. The FOSS4G-NA just spans a way too big region. Many, if not even the majority of the Open Source geospatial development happens in the US and Canada. You will attract people from abroad as so many of the major players will be there. Just do real regional events instead. Do e.g. a California one. The local chapter is quite huge (I gave a talk there a year ago, and there were about 100 RSVP). Do this on several places in NA (e.g. a Midwest one). Cheers, Volker On 06/18/2012 01:54 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, not sure, if this proposal is the best for the scope of FOSS4G. As I already wrote in one of previous mails, we have to try to find the balance between global, semi-regional (approx. continent level) and regional (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, ...) events. Another working (not sure, if better) model could be: * Global event as it is - every year * Semi-Regional events (NA, E, Asia, ...) - every year too, of course not on the continent, where the global event is going be organized * Regional events (GFOSS, FOSSGIS, Geoinformatics, ...) every year but in e.g. spring Having global event every second year means implies, that OSGeo meeting will take place only every second year? And what about people, who would like to meet other people, but for some reason (usually financial) are not able to travel to other part of the world? Any opinion to this? Jachym Dne 16.6.2012 13:42, Maria Brovelli napsal(a): +1. I will be happy to help Greek friends in organizing the meeting. Anyway I'm wondering if sooner or later is possible to organize a Mediterranean conference Maria 2012/6/15 Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr mailto:kotz...@csd.uoc.gr Dear all, I saw with great pleasure the call for organizing
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 RFP Result
Conference Committee, Bidders, Good morning (PDT). The results have been tabulated, and every member of the committee has voted (yay). Many thanks to both teams for bidding. Many of the members commented on the difficulty in selecting a bid, given the quality and attention to detail in both bids. The voting results are Nottingham 8 Helsinki 2 So, FOSS4G 2013 will be in Nottingham, UK. To the Nottingham team: - The sooner you can carve your dates into stone, the better for promotion and planning - Remember that you will have to submit a budget to the Board for approval, and the Official, Really for Reals Acceptance of your bid is contingent on the Board formally accepting your budget and bid. Let's move that process forward briskly. To the Helsinki team: - You had a great bid and a wonderful venue and plan, I hope you'll consider bringing your preparations and research to hosting an EU Regional event for 2014. Thanks again to everyone, Paul, your 2013 RFP bid guy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
On 12-06-18 10:50 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Volker, I see your point - you are not writing it for the first time. Truth is, there was strong request for FOSS4G-E during CEE event. Do you want to prohibit it? I would better support it. Certainly it means loss for the global FOSS4G. Does it mean win for OSGeo? I think so. We just have to talk about the proper model. Jachym Hello Jachym, Volker, Bart, Nick, Maria, Helena and all my FOSS4G friends around the world. I have been very quiet since FOSS4G Denver, stepping back from FOSS4G/conferences because of some concerns about my leadership relayed to me from the OSGeo Board. But my FOSS4G passion and energy has never been so strong. It will never go away :) I am watching the 'regional' events popping up all around the world in fascination and awe; this is really what we have always wanted, to spread the good FOSS4G word, whether it is through a large event or a small one, an official event or 10 people meeting once a month in a pub to discuss FOSS. I admit: at first I was hesitant and was against these regional events because I was worried it would impact the annual event; but, I realize now that there is nothing we can do if people want to get together in their own areas, so let's support it! We can't stop these regional events, nor should we. They're great, allowing local groups to get together with a focus on FOSS4G in their area. Yes, the annual FOSS4G event may dilute a bit, but the word will spread to a wider audience through local/regional events. I still want the annual event to happen each year, to rotate around different regions, and I am ok if that event only draws a few hundred local enthusiasts. I miss you all dearly, and I would jump at the chance to help lead FOSS4G, helping all regional and the annual events grow. Your passionate friend, -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
Hi all, Many good points from Jachym, Volker, Bart and Jeff i fully agree here. According to me, 2012 was the first year FOSS4G was really splitted in such a way. 4 events, in 3 continents (including the FOSS4G-South-East-Asia recently announced in Malaysia http://foss4g-sea.org/) But i think this is very good. Of course we must keep the annual event as best as the board and community can, with international sponsoring and attendance. But as Jeff just said, even if regional events may make the global event kind of smaller (not even sure!), the OSGeo mission would be spread much wider, in all continents, nations and tribes, with more regional and 'semi regional' events popping around. As there are many local chapters, and that some are sharing the same languages, others don't, even neighbors, i'm fully supporting the idea of having both global, regional and let's say 'sub-regional' events at the same year, or according to a well organized turn over, year by year (odd and even could be a good base a proposed before here). I also could notice that depending on the regional event, the conference may be more academic or more business oriented. May be due to foss4g traditions or customs according to the organizing local chapters. In any case, both global, regional and sub-regional would promote OSGeo and may encourage the formation of new local chapters in countries where OSGeo is not yet represented. About FOSS4G-Europe, i fully agree that it must be reconducted and it will for sure, and as Jachym suggested it should probably happens in a different country each year, and of course not in the same as global event, at least for the global Europe years. About the Meditearranean event we were speaking, initiated by the italian chapter discuss list, i'm imagining it as a sub regional event. As said before, and underlined by Stefano, it won't be a european event only, as people from north africa and middle-east may be interested to join too. All around that good sea. That could also be a great occasion for southern european OSGeo people to meet too. My 0.002 € Best, Nick 2012/6/18 Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com On 12-06-18 10:50 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Volker, I see your point - you are not writing it for the first time. Truth is, there was strong request for FOSS4G-E during CEE event. Do you want to prohibit it? I would better support it. Certainly it means loss for the global FOSS4G. Does it mean win for OSGeo? I think so. We just have to talk about the proper model. Jachym Hello Jachym, Volker, Bart, Nick, Maria, Helena and all my FOSS4G friends around the world. I have been very quiet since FOSS4G Denver, stepping back from FOSS4G/conferences because of some concerns about my leadership relayed to me from the OSGeo Board. But my FOSS4G passion and energy has never been so strong. It will never go away :) I am watching the 'regional' events popping up all around the world in fascination and awe; this is really what we have always wanted, to spread the good FOSS4G word, whether it is through a large event or a small one, an official event or 10 people meeting once a month in a pub to discuss FOSS. I admit: at first I was hesitant and was against these regional events because I was worried it would impact the annual event; but, I realize now that there is nothing we can do if people want to get together in their own areas, so let's support it! We can't stop these regional events, nor should we. They're great, allowing local groups to get together with a focus on FOSS4G in their area. Yes, the annual FOSS4G event may dilute a bit, but the word will spread to a wider audience through local/regional events. I still want the annual event to happen each year, to rotate around different regions, and I am ok if that event only draws a few hundred local enthusiasts. I miss you all dearly, and I would jump at the chance to help lead FOSS4G, helping all regional and the annual events grow. Your passionate friend, -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 RFP Result
That's great news Paul The UK team are bubbling with excitement and send our commiserations to our Finnish friends. I think our dates are carved in stone as 17th to 21st September 2013 but I want to double check with the venue before confirming that. We will get our team into gear in the next week or so and start that dialogue with you over the budget. Will you be assigning a board member to liaise with us? Thank you to all the selection group for your confidence in us Best Steven _ Steven Feldman _ On 18 Jun 2012, at 15:12, Paul Ramsey wrote: Conference Committee, Bidders, Good morning (PDT). The results have been tabulated, and every member of the committee has voted (yay). Many thanks to both teams for bidding. Many of the members commented on the difficulty in selecting a bid, given the quality and attention to detail in both bids. The voting results are Nottingham 8 Helsinki 2 So, FOSS4G 2013 will be in Nottingham, UK. To the Nottingham team: - The sooner you can carve your dates into stone, the better for promotion and planning - Remember that you will have to submit a budget to the Board for approval, and the Official, Really for Reals Acceptance of your bid is contingent on the Board formally accepting your budget and bid. Let's move that process forward briskly. To the Helsinki team: - You had a great bid and a wonderful venue and plan, I hope you'll consider bringing your preparations and research to hosting an EU Regional event for 2014. Thanks again to everyone, Paul, your 2013 RFP bid guy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
Hello, Le lundi 18 juin 2012 16:40:37 nicolas bozon a écrit : About the Meditearranean event we were speaking, initiated by the italian chapter discuss list, i'm imagining it as a sub regional event. As said before, and underlined by Stefano, it won't be a european event only, as people from north africa and middle-east may be interested to join too. All around that good sea. That could also be a great occasion for southern european OSGeo people to meet too. This could be interesting to mix some countries in two differents Local FOSS4G (like italy and France in FOSS4G-CEE and FOSS4G-med). This way ideas, projects, etc. will spread much better. A kind of FOSS4G intersection :) Y. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Steven Feldman shfeld...@gmail.com wrote: If there are regional events in every continent except for the continent where the global event is being run we may risk diluting interest in the global event. We will have the global FOSS4G in Europe in 2013 (either UK or Finland will host) we would expect to see less delegates from outside of Europe if there are North American, Asian and other regional events. Perhaps a compromise would be to ensure that the timing of regional events is as close as possible to 6 months away from the global event? That's always a risk, but the reality is that the vast majority of FOSS4G attendees are from the local region, and only a small slice are international. So we really are effectively serving a much larger population with regional events. In some ways (watch this rhetorical bend) dilution is actually a net positive, because it keeps the same-old-same-old highly rated software talks from clogging up the agenda leaving little space for quirky local topics. But I digress. I've been encouraging the regional organizers to try and keep as much schedule space between their event and mid-September as possible. This I think helps the international travellers make schedule time to potentially attend two events in a year. It does lead to some awkward moments though, like FOSS4GNA this year coming just 6 months *after* the last event in NA, the Denver conference. All in all though, because we were serving a market (DC) that itself couldn't all get even so far away as Denver, we ended up serving a wider group. So I think on balance the regional thing is serving us very well. It pains me to say it, but we might be better off de-emphasizing FOSS4G-the-international-event and trying instead of space regional events regularly around the calendar so it's possible for some in-demand speakers to hit 2-3 regional events, while still allowing more travel-constrained local delegates the option of having a regular event. So many options, but unfortunately there's no slam dunk way of knowing what is best. P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences
On 12-06-18 1:18 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote: So I think on balance the regional thing is serving us very well. It pains me to say it, but we might be better off de-emphasizing FOSS4G-the-international-event and trying instead of space regional events regularly around the calendar so it's possible for some in-demand speakers to hit 2-3 regional events, while still allowing more travel-constrained local delegates the option of having a regular event. I will never de-emphasize the annual FOSS4G event, it must go on continuing to be *the* geospatial event. Regional/local events must also continue to grow. Yes it seems there are many different opinions. -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual FOSS4G event. Background points: - OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote will give them more control - I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but really only contains less than 15 people - the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process, but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members What do you all think? -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] regional conferences
Jeff, +1 for the Chater members to vote on both the annual conference location and also about yearly new OSGeo advocates, supposed to go to other geo conferences and represent the Foundation. What a perspicacious point of view ! You've been away for a while, but for sure not stopped thinking [?] Thanks Nick 2012/6/18 Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com Maybe this is off-topic for the subject, but, here's a thought: I propose to let OSGeo Charter members vote for the location of the annual FOSS4G event. Background points: - OSGeo Charter members deserve more say in the organization, this vote will give them more control - I initially created the OSGeo Conference committee years ago, it is made up of many past organizers from different areas of the globe, but really only contains less than 15 people - the OSGeo Conference Committee would still be overlooking the process, but the final vote will go to the OSGeo Charter members What do you all think? -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss 330.gif___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Perception announced!
All, Over the weekend, in overflowing rooms at the Point Cloud Processing workshop and PCL tutorial at CVPR 2012, Willow Garage proudly announced the creation of Open Perception, Inc. (OP) -- http://www.openperception.org, an independent non-profit foundation, focused on advancing the development and adoption of open source software for 2D and 3D processing of sensory data. For more details about the announcement, please see the official press release (http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9612759.htm). Open Perception is founded by a global community of researchers and engineers for the benefit of the industrial and research 3D perception communities. The Point Cloud Library (PCL) project represents Open Perception's most important work to date consisting of a large scale, BSD-licensed open project for 3D point cloud processing. The foundation is set up to receive donations and sponsorship from anyone, and will concentrate on paying developers in the community, giving students travel grants and stipends, organizing open source events, and supporting its projects, such as PCL. The more support OP receives, the more it can do and give back to the entire world. Open Perception is an open organization. We are welcoming support ranging from a pat on a shoulder, to lines of code and monetary donations. Please visit the foundation's Get Involved! page (http://www.openperception.org/get-involved/) and see how you can contribute today. Cheers, Radu. -- Open Perception, Inc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
