Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] New incubation procedure

2015-03-11 Thread Jody Garnett
If we could add to your list:

4. Attract more volunteers to incubation

--
Jody Garnett

On 11 March 2015 at 06:05, Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whatever,

 I would like to achieve:

 1 - attract more projects to osgeo umbrella
 2 - attract little projects to osgeo umbrella
 3 - define, what should happen after successful incubation, because I do
 not believe in and lived happily ever after - to become the project,
 certain level (checklist) has to be reached. But what if the project looses
 it's community?

 The still-callled-star system I started to work on, was inspired by
 Cameron notes (just FYI)

 J

 st 11. 3. 2015 v 1:12 odesílatel Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com
 napsal:

 I will volunteer after foss4gna to look at this.

 I am still interested in keeping our current procedure (as I think it is
 producing good results) and relaxing the requirement for a mentor (which is
 an embarrassing bottleneck).

 Rather than a star system I think we can highlight how far along in the
 checklist each project is.

 --
 Jody Garnett

 On 10 March 2015 at 16:12, Bruce Bannerman 
 bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com wrote:

 We need to be careful when playing around with our 'Incubation
 Procedure'.

 It causes considerable angst and disruption to both mentors and to the
 relevant communities going through incubation when we keep trying to change
 to rules.

 From my opinion as a mentor, the current process while subjective in
 some cases is still valid and effective in guiding a project to the ideals
 that we as a community aspire to.

 When a project graduates from incubation, it gains considerable
 credibility as a viable open source spatial project. It is a badge of
 honour for the project and something to aspire too. So why are we trying to
 dilute this?

 While there are aspects that could improve, what is the rationale for
 wanting to change the process (together with the inevitable disruption that
 follows)?

 If we are serious about changing the incubation rules, then a more
 formal methodology such as those referred to by Cameron at [1] may be more
 appropriate.

 Now, who has the spare time to investigate and drive this forward, **if
 we deem it appropriate**.?

 Are there any volunteers?

 Bruce

 [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2015-March/002644.html


 ===

 I recently came across a number of Open Source Maturity Methodologies,
 which is worth being aware of, and possibly incorporating and/or
 referencing from OSGeo Incubation processes:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_assessment_methodologies








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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] New incubation procedure

2015-03-11 Thread Bruce Bannerman
Hi Jody,

The work keeps falling back on the same people…

We still don’t have a clear rationale as to what is broken and what we’re
trying to fix.

I'm inclined to not do anything until this is clearly understood.

Bruce



On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I will volunteer after foss4gna to look at this.

 I am still interested in keeping our current procedure (as I think it is
 producing good results) and relaxing the requirement for a mentor (which is
 an embarrassing bottleneck).

 Rather than a star system I think we can highlight how far along in the
 checklist each project is.

 --
 Jody Garnett

 On 10 March 2015 at 16:12, Bruce Bannerman 
 bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com wrote:

 We need to be careful when playing around with our 'Incubation Procedure'.

 It causes considerable angst and disruption to both mentors and to the
 relevant communities going through incubation when we keep trying to change
 to rules.

 From my opinion as a mentor, the current process while subjective in some
 cases is still valid and effective in guiding a project to the ideals that
 we as a community aspire to.

 When a project graduates from incubation, it gains considerable
 credibility as a viable open source spatial project. It is a badge of
 honour for the project and something to aspire too. So why are we trying to
 dilute this?

 While there are aspects that could improve, what is the rationale for
 wanting to change the process (together with the inevitable disruption that
 follows)?

 If we are serious about changing the incubation rules, then a more formal
 methodology such as those referred to by Cameron at [1] may be more
 appropriate.

 Now, who has the spare time to investigate and drive this forward, **if
 we deem it appropriate**.?

 Are there any volunteers?

 Bruce

 [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2015-March/002644.html


 ===

 I recently came across a number of Open Source Maturity Methodologies,
 which is worth being aware of, and possibly incorporating and/or
 referencing from OSGeo Incubation processes:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_assessment_methodologies








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