Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Somebody is Spamming trac_osgeo4w list

[Sandro Santilli]

Quick and temporary "fix" for list admins:
put trac_osge...@osgeo.org in moderation

Quick and temporary "fix" for trac admins:
disable trac creation permission to "authenticated" users.

--strk;

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 03:00:14PM -0400, Alex M wrote:
> Ya we're working on it, it's actually trac spam, not list spam directly.
> It's affecting all trac instances actually. Anyone with Trac Spam
> filtering and LDAP experience please hop over the the Sys Admin Mailing
> list or IRC and offer to help out.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> Sys Admin Committee
> 
> On 05/03/2016 02:48 PM, Abhay wrote:
> > Kind Attn:  List Admins,
> > 
> > Just bring this to notices to list admins it seem the trac_osgeo4w list is
> > bombarded with Spam.. Can list admins take look at it?
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[Abhay]

Kind Attn:  List Admins,

Just bring this to notices to list admins it seem the trac_osgeo4w list is
bombarded with Spam.. Can list admins take look at it?

Thanks and Regards,

Abhay Menon.


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[OSGeo-Discuss] FW: gvSIG Festival: First virtual gvSIG Conference

[Suchith Anand]

Congrats Mario and all gvSIG community colleagues for this excellent 
initiative. I am sharing this info with Geo4All colleagues.

Best wishes,

Suchith


From: Relating to all things GIS [gis...@jiscmail.ac.uk] on behalf of Mario 
Carrera [mcarr...@gvsig.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:36 PM
To: gis...@jiscmail.ac.uk
Subject: gvSIG Festival: First virtual gvSIG Conference

Hi all,

from May 23rd to 27th the first gvSIG Festival will be held. In this
case it doesn’t matter where you live or even what language you speak
since you will be able to attend (virtually) more than twenty webinars
in different languages.

There will be presentations in English, Spanish, French, Portuguese,
Turkish and Russian, and we will count with speakers and works developed
in Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, Spain, United States of
America, France, India, Italy, Kenya, Mexico, Paraguay, Russia,
Somaliland, Turkey y Uruguay.

They will speak about how the gvSIG technology can be applied in
different themes like mental health, civil protection, cooperation,
historic studies, roads management, acoustic analysis, hydrology,
tourism, urban analysis….

The webinar platform allows to connect to the webinars from any
operating system.

You can consult the complete program in: http://www.gvsig.com/festival ,
and the information about how to register at the webinars will be
available soon at the website.

In case you can't see some of the webinars, they will be published at
the gvSIG Youtube channel soon.

I hope that you enjoy it.

Best regards,
Mario




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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

[bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com]

Hello Johan,

Please see:

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2016-May/003012.html

Bruce



> First of all, I'm a bit disappointed that this issue is only raised
> now, when the final vote for graduating is taking place. For the
> future I think it should be clearer for projects what rules have to be
> obliged much earlier.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo-EU toward a new OSGeo scenario?

[Massimiliano Cannata]

Dear Dirk and all,
I came across the e...@list.osgeo.org which I didn't know the existence
before of your last message. The archive [1] is showing very low traffic (2
thread, one of 2015 and one of 2016) with few contributors to the
discussions (3 people).
In my opinion times are very immature for creating an OSGeo-EU; it seems to
me that the discussion just started.

Apart from visions and perspective which could be different, i'm concerned
about the creation of an European OSGeo chapter and maybe in the next
future of an Asian one.
To my point of View, this may be the start of a disruption process which
could lead to to the creation of  multiple regional foundations.

I have to say that I was already reluctant on the formation of North
American chapter for the same reason.

This structure is one option, but then I see the "international OSGeo" (now
OSGeo only) to be totally redesigned in the case.

Probably each continent should then elect one/two representatives for the
"international OSGeo" and each "continental chapter" will have their
members and their rules that scale down to "national local chapters" that
have their own rules and members and elects representatives for the
continental chapter.

Also each "continental" will have its annual conference and the
International could happen once every two years.

Said that, I have no recipe and while understanding the motivation behind
this disruption process I have some fear of splitting communities. This may
lead in the future to different incubation processes, visions strategies
etc...

If this is the selected "option" I which that the process of
de-localization could be run in a more democratic way - doocracy is good
but when important matters involves several people democracy is far way
better as it explicitly involve everyone, not only those who " tends to
favor the more vocal people, leaving the "general opinion" largely unknown."


So my question (with no prejudices) is, are we going toward and do we seek
for a different OSGeo scenario?


Maxi


[1] http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/European-Union-Chapter-f5250537.html



Sorry if I garbled my understanding of the initial email, I did ask for
clarification :P

--
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On 2 May 2016 at 12:23, Massimiliano Cannata 
wrote:

> Dear Board Members,
> while I understand the call for presentation for the OSGeo vision,
> regarding FOSS4G Europe, i see different visions within the community.
>
> One things is the EU local chapter, another is the FOSS4G local event
> which has a different vision in my understanding and my opinion.
>
> What is your opinion?
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2016-05-02 17:56 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett :
>
>> Thanks Till:
>>
>> I see that the presentation covering our mission/vision/goals has been
>> accepted  - perhaps that can take
>> some pressure of keynotes? I would appreciate company if Maxi (who has been
>> doing so much planning work) was willing.
>>
>> To clarify point two - are you considering a european foss4g event? Or a
>> vision for how OSGeo can be effective in Europe.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 2 May 2016 at 11:19,  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear OSGeo board,
>>>
>>> I come to you in sight of OSGeo presence @FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn. After
>>> sending out the accteptance-emails for the proposals for the regular track
>>> we now also care heavily about all the other programme related issues.
>>>
>>> One thing we want to finalize ASAP are the plenary talks/sessions we
>>> will have.
>>>
>>> We would be very pleased, if we could have two presentations from OSGeo
>>> within the limits of our plenary sessions:
>>>
>>> 1. Traditionally the OSGeo president should run the Sol Katz Award
>>> session as well as the student awardings - both together in the closing
>>> session.  So we would be happy if Venka would agree in adopting that. This
>>> would be  on friday afternoon, the detailed time schedule will come soon.
>>>
>>> 2. In order to have both, a presentation of OSGeo's new "Vision and
>>> Mission" but also to present the "Vision of an European FOSS4G" I would
>>> like to ask kindly whether Vice-President Dirk Frigne wants to talk about
>>> this in a keynote on wednesday noon. I think especially on an european
>>> FOSS4G with a lot of european organisations being advocated, showing the
>>> vision of a worldwide, but also of an european FOSS4G makes a lot of sense.
>>> Dirk as a Vice-President is the perfect person to combine both talks into
>>> one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please also consider organizing the OSGeo booth, for questions just
>>> contact me.
>>>
>>> Till
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Massimiliano Cannata*
>
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>
> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>
>
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>
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>
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>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Only 6 days left to earn 160 euro's!

[till . adams]

Also another point:

We will extend the Early Bird possibility for AT speakers, but (as said 
before) not in general.


I have codes here, that let the system use the EB price, although it is 
officially the regular price. So, AT speakers should contact us for 
these codes.

We will release that soon.

Till

Am 2016-05-03 11:31, schrieb Anita Graser:

Dear Gert-Jan,

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl)
 wrote:


Now that the program for the annual conference free and open source
software for geospatial (FOSS4G) has been published we cant think of
a reason NOT to register as soon as possible.


​As mentioned in Twitter this morning, the only reason not to
register yet is that scientific track results are still unpublished
and wont be available before May 15th according to the schedule.

Im sure researcher would appreciate a chance at booking early bird as
well. For many conference attendance depends on an accepted paper
though. 

Best wishes,
Anita​



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[Anita Graser]

Dear Gert-Jan,

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
gert-...@osgeo.nl> wrote:

> Now that the program for the annual conference free and open source
> software for geospatial (FOSS4G) has been published we can't think of a
> reason NOT to register as soon as possible.
>

​As mentioned in Twitter this morning, the only reason not to register yet
is that scientific track results are still unpublished and won't be
available before May 15th according to the schedule.

I'm sure researcher would appreciate a chance at booking early bird as
well. For many conference attendance depends on an accepted paper though.

Best wishes,
Anita​
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

[Sandro Santilli]

On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 08:38:36AM +0200, Marc Vloemans wrote:

> @Sandro: which site do you want me to link to?

There's currently no official website.
Maybe the closest to that is: https://strk.kbt.io/projects/rttopo
but if you can help with building a real website (as mentioned
on the wiki page) that'd be great :)

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Only 6 days left to earn 160 euro's!

[Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl)]

Now that the program for the annual conference free and open source 
software for geospatial (FOSS4G) has been published we can't think of a 
reason NOT to register as soon as possible.


By doing so before the 9th of May you keep 160 euro's in your pocket (by 
paying an attendance fee of 590 instead of 750 euro's). 160 euro's. That 
makes a lot of Bratwurst & Beer!
But even more important, you also give the organisation committee a good 
insight of who is joining us at the conference in August in Bonn, and 
thus you give us the opportunity to fine-tune the program and its side 
events to fulfil your expectations.


About 150 "early bird" participants already did so. Take them as a good 
example, and point your browser to http://2016.foss4g.org/home.html.


Not next week. Not tomorrow. Register. Now!


Kind rrgards,

Gert-Jan
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

[Johan Van de Wauw]

Hello everyone,

First of all, I'm a bit disappointed that this issue is only raised
now, when the final vote for graduating is taking place. For the
future I think it should be clearer for projects what rules have to be
obliged much earlier.

Just this week, in another conversation I mentioned that you need
rules for when things go bad, and not when things are going well
(which luckily is the case for Rasdaman). So I think we should focus
on what resolution we want when things "go bad".

It may be my knowledge of English, but I'm not sure how I should
understand: "Should such consent exceptionally not be reached then
Peter Baumann has a casting vote".

If it means that if the PSC reaches 50% - 50% or a lot of abstintent
voting, Peter can take the decision, then I think it is a logical rule
and I see no issues with it.

If it means that if a majority of the PSC votes for the proposal that
it can still be overruled by Peter Baumann (or the chair of the PSC),
then I'm against it. I do believe that would be an unlikely scenario
but at such a time I don't think we can still call it an OSGeo project
at that point.

Kind Regards,
Johan
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

[Peter Baumann]

interesting discussion, with valuable thoughts!

True, micro management is not the case in rasdaman - on the contrary, we are
most happy about helping hands, and are constantly thinking about opportunities
for process improvements. Personally, I am so much overloaded that I enjoy
handing over tasks, and yes: with appropriate responsibility; in practice that
means that we openly discuss pros and cons with myself being "primus inter
pares" (first among equals). I have not received any complaint over the years
that anybody would not get heard appropriately. Regularly I just need to lean
back (metaphorically) and await the outcome of the discussion of the experienced
developers, and add my nodding to the group consensus.

We regularly try to involve the community in such design and implementation
discussions (and I am urging devers to do that), but feedback invariably was
minimal. Which I see as a sign of trust when looking at the download figures at
www.rasdaman.org.

It may be worth noting that we have installed mechanisms for openly commenting
and voting on patches; ever clicked on the Review URL in the Patch Manager?

Actually, it is more about deciding not by election, but by qualification.
Concepts and code of rasdaman are extraordinarily complex; large and experienced
companies like Oracle, Teradata, and ESRI have tried to copy rasdaman, and
failed. Therefore, it unfortunately takes patience for a newcomer to immerse to
a degree that allows making suggestions that are fully backed by the team. That
said, we do not attach maturity labels to coders ;-), rather the technical merit
of each individual contribution is weighted carefully.

Another constraint, of course, are project considerations- there is a contract
behind where ESA, the European Commission, or whoever-else expects fulfilment.

Bottom line, the atmosphere in rasdaman is highly cooperative and
consensus-based, I just reserve jumping in as a last resort. Someone has
questioned the term used in this discussion as not quite adequate; I like the
diplomacy aspect raised.

-Peter


On 05/03/2016 01:54 AM, Julien-Samuel Lacroix wrote:
> I found this nice description of the benevolent dictator governance:
> http://oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/benevolentdictatorgovernancemodel
>
> It's a nice read, but I want to highlight this part:
>
> > In many ways, the role of the benevolent dictator is less about
> > dictatorship and more about diplomacy. The key is to ensure
> > that, as the project expands, the right people are given influence
> > over it and the community rallies behind the vision of the project
> > lead.
>
> Another good one from (linked from the above):
> http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/social-infrastructure.html#benevolent-dictator-qualifications
>
>
> > they let things work themselves out through discussion and
> > experimentation whenever possible. They participate in those
> > discussions themselves, but as regular developers, often deferring to
> > an area maintainer who has more expertise. Only when it is clear that
> > no consensus can be reached, and that most of the group wants someone
> > to guide the decision so that development can move on, does she put
> > her foot down and say "This is the way it's going to be."
>
>
> From my (really) naive point of view, the "benevolent dictatorship" is a
> do-ocracy were the committers get the right, or influence, to lead parts of
> the projects and where the "dictator" is acountable of its decision to the
> community. The key ingredients are the same as other governance :
> - Be easy to contribute patches and features
> - Be open on the direction of the project
> - Be forkable
>
> If someone wants to contribute a new feature, they ask the mailing-list and
> the committer responsible for this part of the software, not the "dictator",
> will approve or suggest changes. The approach is less formal than with a PSC,
> but still works the same.
>
> This is of course an ideal scenario, but can be as open as a PSC, I think, as
> long as the project as a good "forkability".
>
> Back to the incubation discussion, Rasdaman seems to have multiple committers
> and 2 main organisation behind it. What I would like to ask is, what's the
> "bus number". Is there a second (or third) in command that could ultimately
> take care of the project after the dictator's "end-of-term"? From my point of
> view, a PSC of 3, 2 being from the same company, is a small PSC and will
> probably lack a bit of variety in opinions. Is there any other key
> contributors that the "dictator" refers to when trying to get inputs and defer
> technical decisions?
>
> Julien
>
> On 16-05-01 07:29 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> This is kind of a larger topic than just the incubation committee, but
>> no I do not believe we should. It is a defining characteristic of our
>> foundation to not place many restrictions on our projects - but demand
>> that the projects be inclusive and open to collaboration.
>>
>> I do not believe that the 

[OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS GIS 7.0.4 released

[Markus Neteler]

 * We are pleased to announce the new stable release of GRASS GIS 7.0.4 *

*[image: GRASS GIS 7.0.4 released!]*


*[image: GRASS GIS 7.0.4 released!]*




*What's new in a nutshell*

The new GRASS GIS 7.0.4 release provides *150 stability fixes and manual
improvements* compared to 7.0.3.

*About GRASS GIS 7*: Its graphical user interface supports the user to make
complex GIS operations as simple as possible. The updated Python interface
to the C library 
permits users to create new GRASS GIS-Python modules in a simple way while
yet obtaining powerful and fast modules. Furthermore, the libraries
were *significantly
improved for speed and efficiency*, along with support for huge files
. A lot of
effort has been invested to standardize parameter and flag names. Finally,
GRASS GIS 7 comes with a series of *new modules* to analyse raster and
vector data, along with a full temporal framework. For a detailed overview,
see the list of new features
. As a stable release
series, 7.0.x enjoys *long-term support*.

*Binaries/Installer download:*

   - winGRASS 7.0.4: 32bit standalone installer
   

   | 64bit standalone installer
   

   - winGRASS 7.0.4 OSGeo4W - testing area: 32bit OSGeo4W installer
    | 64bit
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   - ubuntugis-unstable
   
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   - *... further binary packages for various Linux distributions and Mac
   OSX will follow shortly.*

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   - To get the GRASS GIS 7.0.4 source code directly from SVN, see here
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*More details:*

See also our detailed announcement:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/7.0.4-News
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass7/NewFeatures (overview of new 7.0
stable release series)

First time users may explore the first steps tutorial
 after installation.

*About GRASS GIS*

The Geographic Resources Analysis Support System (http://grass.osgeo.org/)
, commonly referred to as GRASS GIS, is an Open
Source Geographic Information System providing powerful raster, vector and
geospatial processing capabilities in a single integrated software suite.
GRASS GIS includes tools for spatial modeling, visualization of raster and
vector data, management and analysis of geospatial data, and the processing
of satellite and aerial imagery. It also provides the capability to produce
sophisticated presentation graphics and hardcopy maps. GRASS GIS has been
translated into about twenty languages and supports a huge array of data
formats. It can be used either as a stand-alone application or as backend
for other software packages such as QGIS and R geostatistics. It is
distributed freely under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL).
GRASS GIS is a founding member of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation
(OSGeo).

*The GRASS Development Team, May 2016*
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

[Marc Vloemans]

Welcome Sandro et al,

and thanks you guys for joining !

If no one objects and no formal  hurdles need still to be taken, I will publish 
your name and the project in the overall list in Wiki.(OK with board Jody?)

@Sandro: which site do you want me to link to?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 3 mei 2016 om 08:32 heeft Sandro Santilli  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:00:04PM -0400, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> I would ask if the project would consider joining OSGeo as a community
>> project ? This
>> requirement is minimal, we want some assurance that your project is both
>> open source and open to collaboration.
> 
> On behalf of the PSC, I confirm we are ok with joining OSGeo as a
> community project. Is there any step we need to take to complete
> the move ?
> 
> --strk;
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

[Sandro Santilli]

On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:00:04PM -0400, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I would ask if the project would consider joining OSGeo as a community
> project ? This
> requirement is minimal, we want some assurance that your project is both
> open source and open to collaboration.

On behalf of the PSC, I confirm we are ok with joining OSGeo as a
community project. Is there any step we need to take to complete
the move ?

--strk;
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

[Andrea Aime]

On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Cameron Shorter 
wrote:

> OSGeo discuss, OSGeo incubation, OSGeo board,
>
> I'm hoping the greater OSGeo community will consider and comment on this
> question:
>
> Should OSGeo accept a "benevolent dictator" [1] governance model for
> incubating projects?
>
> -0 from me, Cameron Shorter.
>

Hi Cameron,
I've been thinking about this one for a while, allowing benevolent
dictatorships as graduated
OSGeo projects looks like a significant departure from what OSGeo has been
so far.

As such, I'm wondering if the decision should not be made by consulting
directly all charter members,
to check if today's OSGeo is in agreement with such a direction?
A list discussion on list is good to allow pros and cons to be discussed,
but tends to favor the more
vocal people, leaving the "general opinion" largely unknown.

Cheers
Andrea

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