Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week

[Munich Orientation Convention]

 

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

the mentioned definitions concern software. The invention is NOT a software: 
logical location codes consist of hours, minutes and radius. This simple method 
allows to improve geoAwareness concerning the following elements:

 

Locations   answer to the question “where?” instead of “here”, 
what3words, OpenLocationCode etc.

Directions  answers to the question “whereto?” instead of just “there” 

Distances   the radius is the distance to the pole, minutes are the 
distance to the hour (the greater, the later)

Angles   more than 50% of the population don’t know the meaning of 
“90 degrees” but 90% can read a clock 

 

This also allows a self-guiding WITHOUT MAPS like today’s self-guiding with 
house numbers. 

 

Does anybody see any software? The invention concerns IMAGINARY tools using the 
division of the horizon into 12 directions. Of course, these tools can only be 
free, open and libre.

 

Besides: the definition deciders have forgotten that symbolical fees are best 
practice. Even the unleashing of the entire invention could be a possibility, 
but why should I invest time on that if nobody lets me know that she/he cares 
about the benefits for the consumers and students? 

 

In my opinion, the core of OSGeo is neither software nor maps but GeoAwareness. 
I propose to think about a branch called OpenImaginaryMaps (with a logo 
www.volksnav.de/OSGeoNewLogo ?) where OSGeo would - for the first time and 
without any software –have the possibility to contribute with a free and open 
search grid, free and open location codes, free and open forgotten navigation 
methods with compasses etc. etc.

 

The contrary of nonsense is BonnSense. A matter for Bonn? 

 

Henrique

 

 

 

Von: Jonathan Moules [mailto:jonathan-li...@lightpear.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 11:42
An: Munich Orientation Convention
Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators 
globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness 
Week

 

Hi Henrique,
> "Therefore:  OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of 
representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when 
the wind changes."
   
I'm not sure that's a good take-home from the conversation so far.
The OSGeo appears to already have a pretty clear definition of what it 
considers free and open (from  
 
http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html#Open_Source ) :

"Open source software is software where the source code is made available 
under a license that allows the modification, and re-distribution of the 
software at will."
   
So while there are multiple interpretations and variations for "free" and 
"open", as far as I can see, if software isn't distributed under an OSI 
approved license (  
https://opensource.org/licenses ), it's not "free and open" for the purposes of 
the current definition as used by the OSGeo.
Whether the OSGeo definition (or by extension the OSI one) is correct is a 
question that's beyond the scope of my reply. :-)

Cheers,
Jonathan



 On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:00:38 +0100 Munich Orientation Convention< 
 volks...@volksnav.de> wrote  

 

Hello Brian,

 

thank you for the confirmation that MOC isn’t (and shouldn’t be) free and open. 
Therefore:  OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of 
the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes. 

 

My last approach concerned ideas to the Geo Awareness Week, that means, for 
young consumers. A similar situation: adults decide about writing, publishing 
and buying books for children.

 

In Bonn there will a speech about free, open and libre. This shows that in some 
cases openmania could be the wrong way. 

 

The site “free the post code” www.freeThePostCode.org proves that even 
enigmatic post codes aren’t free, therefore universities etc. promote it (by 
unreflected use?). According to my surveys, nobody knows where is the N/S/E/W 
transition point ( the pole ! ) in London. 

 

I also wrote to the National Geographic and I’m sure that Geo Awareness and 
open mind will overcome. 

One possibility could be to amputate the invention to a free and open torso for 
those who insist on saving EUR 1,- . Would this be of interest for OSGeo?

 

Henrique

 

 

 

Von: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag von Brian M 
Hamlin
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 21:29
An: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org
Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators 
globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness 
Week

 

Dear Colleagues -

 

  I strongly object to this statement.. 

" ... t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] CoverageJSON

[Massimiliano Cannata]

Dear All,
the coverage in O&M is addressed also at EU level within the SOS but in XML.

I may be interested in exploring this format and add this capability to
istSOS in the next future...

Maxi

2016-08-17 22:58 GMT+02:00 Bruce Bannerman 
:

> Thanks Jachym.
>
> I can also see the potential of this format.
>
> I like the potential for tying in the Observations and Measurements
> Observed Property with associated community agreed definitions to the
> coverage. This has been a missing piece of the puzzle for some time.
>
> I understand that Jon and his team would welcome collaboration to further
> test and develop the format.
>
> I expect that Jon will respond when he gets back off his holiday.
>
> Bruce
>
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 19:03, Jachym Cepicky  wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce and Jon,
>
> I went through the spec, and I like it in general (not that it would be so
> important)
>
> JSON usage is certainly still growing, so is size of the data. Are you
> guys using the CoverageJSON in some application already? I like the
> metadata verbosity, and overall readiness for international environment.
>
> Have you been thinking about data compression too? For raster data, this
> could be key issue IMHO.
>
> good luck
>
> Jachym
>
> čt 11. 8. 2016 v 0:47 odesílatel Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com> napsal:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Are any projects doing any work with the emerging data format,
>> CoverageJSON?
>>
>> See:
>>
>> - https://covjson.org/
>>
>> - https://github.com/covjson/specification/blob/master/spec.md
>>
>>
>> I understand that this is still a work in progress, but is in a fairly
>> stable state at the moment.
>>
>> If anyone has looked at the format in detail, what are your thoughts on
>> its viability for:
>>
>> - data exchange; and
>>
>> - to underpin spatial and image analysis?
>>
>> Bruce
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