[OSGeo-Discuss] Campaign period for OSGeo board elections
Hi all, (This is a cross-post from https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/campaign-period-for-osgeo-board-elections/6448 - campaigning for board elections seems like a nice occasion to give discourse.osgeo.org a whirl.) The 2023 elections for new board members are finally coming soon. All nominees at Board Member Nominations 2023 - OSGeo have confirmed that they are up for election. There will be a (very) short campaigning period, where nominees are invited to write a manifesto at Election 2023 Candidate Manifestos - OSGeo and engage with other OSGeo charter members. This period will end on January 2nd. The actual elections will start on January 3rd, via limesurvey (the same platform used for charter member elections). Best, -- OSGeo CRO: Iván Sánchez Ortega ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to nabble used to? Is searchable etc … But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers - so it is one way communication. And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting yet more email). -- Jody Garnett On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara wrote: > Hi Jody > > We are offering options > > Before: > Use mailing list > > After: > * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/ > * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse > * Use discourse without a mailing list > > > This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list > * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1] (Use > discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from > mailing list) > * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list > and see the archives also on discourse) > * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was > created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list) > * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing > list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/) > > [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 > [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 > [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1 > [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/ > > Regards > Vicky > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett > wrote: > >> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up >> form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being >> offered. >> -- >> Jody Garnett >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options >>> are being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are >>> mailing lists going away? 2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing >>> list and not add dicourse? >>> >>> Thanks, Eli >>> -- >>> *From:* Discuss on behalf of Vicky >>> Vergara via Discuss >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM >>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions >>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration >>> >>> Hi Jody, >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett >>> wrote: >>> >>> Vicky, >>> >>> Is there any more information on what is being offered here? >>> >>> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a >>> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror. >>> >>> >>> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback. >>> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails >>> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse. >>> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on >>> the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list. >>> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail. >>> >>> >>> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a >>> mailing list >>> >>> >>> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and >>> they can log in using ldap, or github account. >>> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to >>> the person that logged in. >>> >>> Regards >>> Vicky >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jody Garnett >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss < >>> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hello all >>> >>> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse, >>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse >>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse >>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list >>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list >>> >>> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including >>> private mailing lists): >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo >>> >>> You need to open a ticket to have the work done. >>> Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases >>> >>> Regards >>> Vicky Vergara >>> >>> Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse: >>> >>> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket >>> 3063) >>> + >>> Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063 >>> >>> Created the following discourse category >>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 >>> And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed: >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/ >>> Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be >>> received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of >>> january. >>> Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org >>> >>> Example: Have a mirror of the
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
Hi Jody We are offering options Before: Use mailing list After: * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/ * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse * Use discourse without a mailing list This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1] (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from mailing list) * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse) * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list) * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/) [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1 [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/ Regards Vicky On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett wrote: > I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up > form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being > offered. > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options >> are being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are >> mailing lists going away? 2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing >> list and not add dicourse? >> >> Thanks, Eli >> -- >> *From:* Discuss on behalf of Vicky >> Vergara via Discuss >> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM >> *To:* OSGeo Discussions >> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration >> >> Hi Jody, >> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett >> wrote: >> >> Vicky, >> >> Is there any more information on what is being offered here? >> >> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a >> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror. >> >> >> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback. >> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails >> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse. >> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on >> the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list. >> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail. >> >> >> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a >> mailing list >> >> >> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and >> they can log in using ldap, or github account. >> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the >> person that logged in. >> >> Regards >> Vicky >> >> >> -- >> Jody Garnett >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss < >> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: >> >> Hello all >> >> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse, >> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse >> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse >> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list >> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list >> >> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including >> private mailing lists): >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo >> >> You need to open a ticket to have the work done. >> Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases >> >> Regards >> Vicky Vergara >> >> Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse: >> >> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket >> 3063) >> + >> Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063 >> >> Created the following discourse category >> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 >> And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed: >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/ >> Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be >> received on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of >> january. >> Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org >> >> Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse >> Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062 >> Created the following discourse category >> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 >> The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing >> list >> emails continue to be sent to s...@lists.osgeo.org >> Replies can be done >> >> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara >> But they will no be reflected on the mailing list >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html >> >> Example: of category without mailing list >>
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
Hi all I am sending you a link about how discourse treats the users https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/ On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:00 AM Eli Adam wrote: > Hi, > > I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options are > being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are mailing > lists going away? > No, they are not going away We are just giving options, different communities have different needs Different people have different ways of working together This [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/pgrouting/pgrouting-dev/17 is a mirror of [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/pgrouting-dev/ As you can see on [2] you can not reply you can only browse the mail archives. On [1] happens the same. The only way to have a reply is by sending a mail to the corresponding mailing list here: [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 the QGIS french group of users decided that discourse was better for them and they will not use the mailing list anymore So the mailing list was moved and we are giving a month's time for people to go to discourse. Anything arriving to the mailing list at this moment of time is not going to be published in discourse. Because it is not a mirror, on it people can reply using discourse or sending a mail to qgis-fr-users at discourse.osgeo.org but the mailing list archives will be kept Of course, for obvious reasons, I can not git you a link to a private mailing lists They want to remain private and want to remain on the mailing list. But another example, pgRouting did not have a public/private mailing list for its PSC, and we opted to have a private category within discourse. Already there but you can not see it, you are not part of the group that can see that category. 2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing list and not add dicourse? > Yes! Also they can have a category on discourse without a mailing list, but with a discourse mail Like this one: https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-sac-website-category/301 (read about the trust levels) Regards Vicky > Thanks, Eli > -- > *From:* Discuss on behalf of Vicky > Vergara via Discuss > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM > *To:* OSGeo Discussions > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration > > Hi Jody, > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett > wrote: > > Vicky, > > Is there any more information on what is being offered here? > > I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a category > Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror. > > > Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback. > Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails received > on the mailing list are also shown on discourse. > If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on > the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list. > The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail. > > > Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a mailing > list > > > When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and > they can log in using ldap, or github account. > If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the > person that logged in. > > Regards > Vicky > > > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss < > discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > > Hello all > > We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse, > * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse > * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse > * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list > * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list > > A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including > private mailing lists): > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo > > You need to open a ticket to have the work done. > Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases > > Regards > Vicky Vergara > > Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse: > > Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket 3063) > + > Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063 > > Created the following discourse category > https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 > And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed: > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/ > Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be received > on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of january. > Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org > > Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse > Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062 > Created the following discourse category > https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 > The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing > list >
