Thank you, that's really helpful to know. I wonder if this "mailing list"
behavior could be set as a default for the migrated users.
On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 6:39 PM Regina Obe wrote:
> They would need to log into discourse at least once and then mark the
> category as “Watching”
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> Like for example – the qgis-fr-user category is here -
> https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
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> And then within your profile, there is an Emails section, you can decide
> if you want to be emailed or not for watched categories and how frequently.
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> There is also a decision category managers (aka mailing list admins) need
> to make if they want anyone with an OSGeo discourse account to be able to
> post to their categories, or only people in a group. You can invite all
> people in your old mailing list into the new group to expedite things.
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> *From:* Anna Petrášová
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:12 PM
> *To:* Regina Obe
> *Cc:* Sandro Santilli ; Bruce Bannerman <
> bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com>; OSGeo Discussions <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
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> In case we decide to migrate, I was wondering what kind of effort is
> required from a current mailing list (mailman2) user to switch to discourse
> if they want to keep using it as a mailing list. E.g., would they need to
> login first (potentially create a new account?) and then set anything from
> the discourse interface? I understand this is all new, so instructions may
> not be available yet, but I am just trying to understand what kind of
> burden the transition represents for a regular user.
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> Thanks,
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> Anna
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> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 3:29 AM Regina Obe via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
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> > On Fri, Dec 29, 2023 at 09:52:35AM +1100, Bruce Bannerman via Discuss
> > wrote:
> > >Apart from these few emails telling me that a move to something
> called
> > >Discourse is happening, I have not seen any discussion on our lists
> > >explaining the pros and cons of such a move.
> > >I find this lack of community engagement on this issue to be
> troubling.
> > >This does not seem to be a very open source community way of making
> such
> > a
> > >significant move.
> >
> > I feel the same and ask every OSGeo member with responsibility over
> > infrastructure to use this mailing list more as this is the "place"
> > with the most foundation members.
> >
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> First of all, this IS THE DISCUSSION. We've only moved one mailing list.
> We are just encouraging people to try it out
> first by allowing us to mirror their lists. No harm in that I see. Most
> likely the lists that will move first are those with not that many people,
> and who are dissatisfied with mail lists like some of the QGIS users groups.
>
> OpenStreetMap put together a nice intro, which I'm hoping we can pattern
> our intro after:
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> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/how-to-use-this-forum-for-new-users/314/9
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> which links to this discussion about pros and cons of mailing lists vs.
> Discourse
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> https://meta.discourse.org/t/why-use-discourse-instead-of-a-email-mailing-list/54298
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> My impetus for wanting to move is people asking for it, and complaining
> about how mailing lists don't work
> for people who want only casual involvement.
>
> Personally I hate mailing lists so they don't work for me. I only have
> discuss in digest mode cause most of the topics don't interest me.
> I only subscribe to a few mailing lists, but I do see with discourse, I
> can at least peak into others and watch specific topics, and be selectively
> emailed in only things that interest me or if someone mentions my name.
>
> We need to move either to Mailman3 or Discourse - end of story. Mailman2
> is dead and in looking at what we get with Mailman3, effort to move,
> and all the people screaming over the years for discourse
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2306
> , and seeing the success of discourse for projects such as OpenStreetMap
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/ , Gnome, I'm leaning heavily toward
> Discourse is the best solution
> for most and most flexible to configure.
>
> * It will allow people who only want to interact via Email only to still
> do so
>
> That is not to say there aren't issues with how it handles emails we need
> to work out, which Sandro has made clear, but at least he's trying, so I
> can't complain about him too much.
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3072
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> * It will allow people to just post a question and only follow the
> discussion about their question -- I know sounds selfish, but FOSS is about
> scratching your own itch, and hanging around for longer when you decide
> these people are cool and what they talk about is cool.
>
> * It has integration with ActivityPub, thus allowing discussions to flow
> thru to channels like mastodon if wanted. We've been experimenting with
> that and it's been pretty
