RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding

[Jean-Philippe Lagrange]

Hi JP

Please keep in mind that when using the Google Maps services you accept the 
following terms:
By submitting, posting or displaying Your Content in the Service, you give 
Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive 
license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publicly perform, publicly 
display and distribute Your Content through the Service and as search results 
through Google Services.
http://code.google.com/intl/fr/apis/maps/terms.html
(sec. 11.1)

JP



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Envoyé : vendredi 4 février 2011 14:34
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Objet : [OSGeo-Discuss] Batch geocoding

Hello,

I have a large set of addresses (around 150k) that I need to geocode for a 
study (my Masters thesis on heat-related mortality). I am looking into 
different solutions, but I can't find anything that seems like it would work 
properly.

I could script a solution using Google's map API, but there is a limit of 2,500 
addreses per day (I can get around them with a little patience).

Right now the best solution I am looking at geopy for geocoding addresses 
(http://code.google.com/p/geopy/). It seems like a good system, I think I can 
use it to pull addresses out of my database and write back coordinates. There 
is one thing that I am not sure, about, though, is whether I am actually 
allowed to use the Google API without my use being liked to a specific web 
page. The terms of service and form for getting a Google API key require a URL 
linked to a Google account. In fact, it looks like the API can only be used 
through a web site:

"5.2 Account Key. After supplying Google with your account information and the 
URL of your Maps API Implementation, and accepting the Terms, you will be 
issued an alphanumeric key assigned to you by Google that is uniquely 
associated with your Google Account and the URL of your Maps API 
Implementation. Your Maps API Implementation must import the Google Maps APIs 
using this key as described in the Maps APIs 
Documentation, and Google will 
block requests with an invalid key or invalid URL. You may only obtain and use 
a key in accordance with these Terms and the Maps APIs 
Documentation."

So it looks like I can't even get it to work without a URL.

I can always write a script that loops through results extracted from the 
database, creates URLs and parses the XML results one at a time, but that seems 
like a fairly inelegant solution.

Does anyone have any good ideas about how to geocode a few thousand addresses?

Many thanks,
JP
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RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] 30m SRTM worldwide?

[Jean-Philippe Lagrange]

Hi Carsten,

I am afraid that this mystery relates to cost/available budget matters!

Jean-Philippe


De : discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] de la 
part de Carsten Troelsgaard [troelsgaard...@live.dk]
Date d'envoi : samedi 27 août 2011 09:55
À : lists.osgeo.org
Objet : RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] 30m SRTM worldwide?

Hi Sylvain

The mystery moves to why they didn't 'fix' it in the first place.
I noted that part of the Amazon Basin has a low overall stack-count.
The QA file that follows the geoTiff-data is populated with data 
(stack-numbers) in the same format (geoTiff) .. that makes it possible to 
predict troubled areas. I'm not sure if your GIS-tools can incoorporate and use 
the auxillery-data.

Carsten


Sylvain wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> It is almost certain that you are right.
>
> The chapter "C. Residual Anomalies and Artifacts GDEM" detailed
> "Artifacts Related to Stack Number Irregular Boundaries."
> - Decripiton of the "pits" is similar to more or less circular holes I
> see. The text says they "Regularity and Often Occur with high
> frequency in Virtually all ASTER GDEM tiles" and "from just a FEW
> meters to 100 meters or more." Ok
> - The large positive anomalies similar to "mole run" artifacts (p.23
> of the text).
> - Undoubtedly the linear artifact are "step anomaly" (p. 19 text).
>
> Thank you for your comments, I'll put them on the blog to let things clear.
>
> Bests
>
> PS: as you assume, unfortunately, no amazon mystery reveled...
>
> Sylvain
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RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] What is North America?

[Jean-Philippe Lagrange]

Hi Adrian,

Should now French people feel some prejudice because of your disparaging words? 
Should we follow up by wondering what natives of Northern America think of 
'occupation which sucks'?  
Such consideration do not lead anybody anywhere. Nowadays borders are a result 
of history, including past wars, and nobody should argue too much against the 
formers, for we do not want the latters to develop again among nations.
By the way, French Islands in your area do not stop at two bitty islands off 
the Eastern coast, you may also include French Antillas, not so far from Puerto 
Rico, recently added to the USA.

Best,
JP

De : discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] de la 
part de Adrian Custer [acus...@gmail.com]
Date d'envoi : vendredi 11 novembre 2011 20:25
À : OSGeo Discussions
Objet : Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What is North America?

On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 11:29 +0100, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
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> Now that a North American Regional Chapter is emerging I wanted to
> understand what the term "North America" actually means. Just a few
> example:
>
> In my cultural context (Germany) the Unites States on their own are
> typically called "Amerika" which in reality is a whole continent. To
> many Germans Kanada (yes, with a "K") is just a US wilderness adventure
> park (Canadians: no offence meant). In many South American countries US
> citizens are nowadays called "Gringo" which originally meant "Green Go"
> and relates to US "interventions" in Middle and Southern America.
>
> So for many non-North-Americans the term might be really, really fuzzy
> which is why I thought it would be a good idea to define it more
> closely, started here:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:North_America_Regional
>
> Looking at the typical roles of a local chapter (or in this case a "meta
> local chapter" or "regional chapter") I would suggest that this chapter
> would be the primary point of contact for the organization of a FOSS4G
> event in English language in either the US or Canada. Extending it
> beyond these two countries would probably raise a whole lot of
> additional issues starting with language (Spanish) and ending with
> politics (Cuba) - which will probably complicate things beyond
> recognition. I can also see other meta chapters forming with a more
> Spanish speaking background in the Middle Americas, so there is no
> exclusivity here at all. The Spanish speaking Local Chapter might also
> be a good template to see how this could look.
>
> But anything I say here is absolutely not fundamental at all, just 2ct
> from an outsider (sent in the hope that this list will see a broadly
> inclusive dialog about how this group will evolve).
>
> Have fun,
> Arnulf

What a strange mail.

If you are playing with a definition based on geography and nation
states, then you have to include France as well in North America for the
two itty, bitty islands it claims of the eastern coast---doesn't
territorial occupation suck?

Your language argument, however, seems to abandon any geographic basis
and focus on English based on some definition by cultural domination.
For a geographic definition, you would have to include French both for
Québec and for the French territories in the Atlantic(vis above). To be
realistic, you should probably include Spanish a well since that is an
officially supported language in many regions of America, north of the
Rio Grande. Finally, if you wanted to be correct, then there are many,
many other languages spoken here, many of which are native to the
geographic region.

Then again, if you leave things vague, then people who want to do 'free
software' in 'the general area around the great lakes' might all want to
play. Oh sorry, not the people focused on freedom, the people focused on
'openness' of source 'code' for whatever benefit that might bring.

But anything I say here is absolutely a waste of time.

~adrian

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[OSGeo-Discuss] RE : Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

[Jean-Philippe Lagrange]

Dear Adrian,

I agree that being a non native speaker, I may misunderstand some sentences. 
However, you wrote: 
'you have to include France as well in North America for the
two itty, bitty islands it claims of the eastern coast---doesn't
territorial occupation suck?'. 
Am I inventing in finding this sentence somewhat disparaging?
You could use another word than 'occupation', couldn't you? 
Would 'territorial occupation' have no link with 'occupied territories'?

Anyway, this matter is not worth long exchanges!

Best,
Jean-Philippe


De : Adrian Custer [acus...@gmail.com]
Date d'envoi : dimanche 13 novembre 2011 18:27
À : Jean-Philippe Lagrange; OSGeo Discussions
Objet : Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 10:07 +0100, Jean-Philippe Lagrange wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
>
> Should now French people feel some prejudice because of your disparaging 
> words?

Jean-Phillipe Lagrange,

There were no "disparaging words" in my email. I am a native speaker of
English so I know how to use the language pretty well to have it say
what I mean to say rather than something else. Also, I had no intent to
disparage the people of the country where I was born, where I have spent
the past few years, and where part of my family lives. So if you have
read something you find disparaging of yourself or others in my email,
please know that you have invented it.

Also, since these emails are (1) lighthearted (2) ironic and (3) joking,
it would be best if everyone made the effort to read them looking for
irony and happiness rather than looking for insults. Arnulf is playing
on the tensions between 'north americans' and others in the americas,
playing on the history of violent confrontation between those groups. He
is playing in order to, light heartedly, call into question what 'North
american' might mean for a regional chapter of OSGeo. That is the
interesting question.

The rest of this bantering is merely irrelevant irreverent political
banter. Even 'gringo' that started this all, is, in my experience, used
much more frequently as a statement of fact, or as a lighthearted
comment, than as a direct insult. I personally found it much quicker to
call myself a 'gringo' than the mouthful 'estado unidense' or 'norte
americano'. Daniel, to my surprise, finds the term obviously and clearly
insulting. Such is the spectrum of human experience. Nonetheless, I
suspect we all can recognize that Arnulf did not start his email trying
to insult people but rather, in a fit of his boundless energy, to spark
a discussion about the OSGeo chapter.

~adrian


PS If you still consider my mail insulting, I would be glad to reassure
you that it was not written that way. Contact me directly, in french if
you like, and we can resolve this offline.

> Should we follow up by wondering what natives of Northern America
> think of 'occupation which sucks'?

By all means. Although, if you look at my last name, you will perhaps
understand that I usually start with the genocidal conquest of these
united states rather than end up considering it.

>
> Such consideration do not lead anybody anywhere. Nowadays borders are
> a result of history, including past wars, and nobody should argue too
> much against the formers, for we do not want the latters to develop
> again among nations.

Actually, many people do argue against and question borders; others try
to undermine the nation states and focus on human well being instead.

> By the way, French Islands in your area do not stop at two bitty islands
> off the Eastern coast, you may also include French Antillas,

Except that this was the whole point of Arnulf's email; the carribean is
almost never considered part of 'north america' despite being (1) in the
americas and (2) north of the equator. Nor is the much more sizeable
Mexico.

> not so far
> from Puerto Rico, recently added to the USA.
>
> Best,
> JP
> 
> De : discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] de la 
> part de Adrian Custer [acus...@gmail.com]
> Date d'envoi : vendredi 11 novembre 2011 20:25
> À : OSGeo Discussions
> Objet : Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What is North America?
>
> On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 11:29 +0100, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Now that a North American Regional Chapter is emerging I wanted to
> > understand what the term "North America" actually means. Just a few
> > example:
> >
> > In my cultural context (Germany) the Unites States on their own are
> > typically called "Amerika" which in reality is a whole continent. To
> > many