Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

2014-09-15 Thread Richard Greenwood
I don't get it, and my question is moot at this point in time, but why do
we need a new foundation? Why couldn't OSGeo have provided what
LocationTech purports to provide? Was there any discussion, or awareness,
in the OSGeo board prior to the formation of LocationTech?

Rich


On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jeff McKenna  wrote:

> Arnulf,
>
> I definitely agree that both foundations fill a role and need to exist.
>
> The point I am trying to make is that we have the power to change OSGeo,
> if we feel some needs are not being met well.
>
> I used too strong of words again, I am sorry.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2014-09-15 2:59 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Jeff,
>> I believe that Daniel is actually right in what he says - given that I
>> understand the point he is trying to make. There are differences
>> between OSGeo and LocationTech and trying to talk them away will not
>> get us anywhere. And its not "bad" or "goo" either way, we just
>> operate differently.
>>
>> The point is that in OSGeo you cannot move anything at all as a
>> business, not directly. In LocationTech you become a corporate member,
>> pay money and in return have influence over certain things and get
>> support. Directly geared towards your specific needs. OSGeo does none
>> of those things.
>>
>> As an individual (with or without business) you can become the
>> committee chair and an OSGeo officer with absolutely no preconditions,
>> no money needed, no organizational backing and no other hierarchy.
>> Just because othes think you are doing a cool job and have accumulated
>> enough merit to go ahead as a leader. This would not work in this way
>> in LocationTech.
>>
>> Both ways have reasons to exist and are good. Right?
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Arnulf
>>
>> Am 2014-09-15 10:45, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>
>>> On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>>>
 the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in
 Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses

>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo.  OSGeo members
>>> are made up of all walks of life, and many are running private
>>> businesses all around the world.  I have visited their
>>> organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G travels throughout the
>>> years.
>>>
>>> However I cannot change how you feel.
>>>
>>> This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made publicly,
>>> which I feel are made to divide our community.
>>>
>>> Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events (of
>>> all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no sole focus
>>> on one type of community.  And as the President of OSGeo, I am
>>> happy to represent all of the members, of any kind :)
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Greenwood
I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.

But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
members of our community surely doesn't hurt.

Rich

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Hi Stefano, Bart, all,
>
> I simply sent my nomination to solkatzaw...@osgeo.org and CC'd Discuss -
> I did this on my own doing.  I don't have a blog, so my opinions are
> posted through mailing lists, so I don't see an issue with posting my
> thoughts here in public.  In fact I am very proud to post my nomination
> for Venka publicly.
>
> Although now it seems I was wrong.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> On 12-09-18 11:40 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>> Hi Stefano,
>>
>> I share your concerns. This is the first year that this is happening,
>> and it's not outlined at all in the request for nominations.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
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>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Stefano Costa > <mailto:st...@iosa.it>> wrote:
>>
>> Il 18/09/2012 13:51, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
>>>>> He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.
>>
>> Regardless of the strong merits of Venkatesh (I don't know you
>> personally, but I do agree with others about your exceptional
>> contribution to the community), I wonder if it is really OK to have a
>> public "thumbs up session" for candidates rather than leave it to the
>> committee to decide. Especially towards other potential candidates
>> (there may even be others candidates already, AFAIK, since e-mails
>> have to be submitted to a separate, private address and not to the
>> discussion list).
>>
>> If this sounds over-bureaucratisation of our community standards, I
>> apologise in advance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> steko
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Greenwood
I Nominate Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award. I can not
imagine where the OpenLayers project would be without Chris' energy
and enthusiasm. Chris burst onto the FOSS4G scene at the 2006
conference in Lausanne and his name was immediately synonymous with
OpenLayers.

I hope that other members of our community who are closer to the
OpenLayers project will support my nomination and provide more detail
of Chris' contributions.

Rich

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Built a mask

2012-02-16 Thread Richard Greenwood
Elena,

I have not worked with a GRASS mask for many years, but my
recollection is that any raster layer can be a mask if you just name
it as such. You might get more responses if you pose your question on
the GRASS user's list
http://grass.fbk.eu/community/support.php
This list is for more general Open Source Geospatial discussion than
for questions specific to a particular software.

Rich

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Elena Bastianon
 wrote:
> Hello,
> What I must do is create a mask in GRASS which takes consideration on the
> slope of the study area.
> I'm studying a river and I have the GDEM of the area, what I've done so far
> it was extrapolate some sections in order to have the longitudinal profile /
> slope (and that is a line), to do that I used the GDEM, following the main
> channel line's.
> Now my problem  is how to transform this informations in a surface.
> My idea would be to create something like a GDEM from the longitudinal
> profile (I tried with v.surf.rast) and then with r.mapcalc get the mask
> (with r.mapcalc, define the mask choosing the points of the GDEM which are
> located at an altitude of about 5-6m larger than that of the longitudinal
> profile).
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance for availability
> Have a nice day
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] question

2011-11-27 Thread Richard Greenwood
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Tilottama Ghosh  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been using ArcGIS for all my projects for over four years. I moved
> back to India, my home country, this year, and have realized how
> unaffordable ArcGIS is for most people in India. Therefore, it is time for
> me to start using the available Opensource GIS software. I mostly use the
> Analysis tools, Spatial analyst, Spatial statistics, Data Management
> tools in ArcGIS. Could you please suggest which of the open source GIS
> software - GRASSgis, Quantum GIS, and gvSIG, would provide me with similar
> tools to work with? Any kind of suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Tilottama
>

Be sure to look at OpenJump
   http://www.openjump.org/
and the JTS Topology Suite
   http://www.vividsolutions.com/jts/JTSHome.htm

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board of Directors meeting minutes

2011-11-19 Thread Richard Greenwood
Arnulf,

I appreciate your Board of Directors meeting minutes/summary and
encourage you to provide the same for future meetings. I also support
hiring Jeff for the Beijing FOSS4G. Thank you, and all of the board
members, for the work that you do to make the OSGeo what it is.

Rich

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:
> Arnulf,
> Pending analysis of costs, I'm strongly in favour of having a "FOSS4G"
> support role. I'd actually like to see this role expanded to be a continuous
> role which supports an element of support for all FOSS4G events around the
> world.
>
> As it stands, FOSS4G international events all employ professional conference
> organisors (PCO) to run our events for us. However, from year to year, we
> haven't had continuity from one local organising committee and PCO to the
> next. This has resulted in a significant increase in effort for each set of
> organisors.
> I would like to see a trusted FOSS4G veteran be available to support events
> from year to year.
>
> I see this role as being an advisor, who would virtually attend FOSS4G
> committee meetings, providing advice to local committees.
>
> On 18/11/2011 10:28 PM, Arnulf Christl (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>> the OSGeo Board of Directors meets once a month in a public meeting on
>> IRC. We then discuss the agenda which has been prepared on the OSGeo
>> Wiki [1]. Thanks to Gary Sherman the meetings are logged [2]. We hold
>> the meetings openly and every now and then somebody outside of the board
>> has an interjection - which can be very helpful indeed. At the last
>> meeting Gary Sherman suggested that we should circulate the results from
>> our meetings because not that many people follow the board mailing list
>> [3] read the minutes [4] or even the logs [5].
>>
>> Currently we meet every second Thursday of a month at 17:00 UTC on IRC.
>> We also aim at meeting in person at least once each year, usually during
>> the FOSS4G conference.
>>
>> One item I was explicitly asked to highlight to the broader community
>> relates to FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing [6]. There has been a lot of talk
>> about the challenges of this next edition of FOSS4G, these include
>> language and cultural differences, sheer physical distance of the venue
>> for many active OSGeo members, competing regional FOSS4G events,
>> including a new one very likely in North America and that we are already
>> very late in planning (we never had this little time to prepare).
>> Therefore in a mail from September [7] I voted against having FOSS4G in
>> Beijing but at the same time proposed a motion to hire Jeff McKenna for
>> money to help organize the FOSS4G 2012 in Beijing. Jeff is the chair of
>> the conference committee and helped organize every single FOSS4G we
>> have celebrated so far, so he is a perfect fit. But he cannot spend as
>> much time as will be required for FOSS4G in Beijing as a volunteer. The
>> motion was not accepted by the board and so there was no decision but
>> it started some thinking.
>>
>> Jeff is a member of the board of directors and to avoid a conflict of
>> interest he will abstain from any decision as suggested here [8]. The
>> next step will be a proposal from Jeff describing the required work load
>> and budget to get going. Then the board of directors will have to decide
>> how to go forward – and all of this must happen asap.
>>
>> You can see, this is a long ongoing process and all of it is openly
>> available but, as Gary pointed out, many will probably not know anything
>> about this.
>>
>> So what do you think in general. Is this type of informative mail
>> enough, or should we blog about the meetings in more detail, make a
>> video or fully socialmedialize them? (...please bear in mind that we
>> will then not be able to do other stuff, so it should better be
>> important, not just a nice to have).  Suggestions are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arnulf
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board
>> [2] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/   ...starting at 17:03:02
>> [3] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
>> [4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2011-11-10#Minutes
>> [5] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeo/%23osgeo.2011-11-10.log
>> [6] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2012
>> [7] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-September/008872.html
>> [8] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-September/008894.html
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] viewing ecw images in GRASS 6.4 RC1

2011-11-17 Thread Richard Greenwood
2011/11/17 "Pablo García Díaz" :
> Hello to all the people involved,
>
> I'm experiencing troubles in loading an .ecw image in GRASS 6.4. When I
> try to import the file using the raster import (r.in.gdal), I can't find
> out the extension, while I've seen that in other previous versions of the
> software it was possible to do so.
> Any suggestion?
>
> Pablo

Pablo,

I believe that it requires support in gdal. Does your gdal setup
support ecw? You can check with:
   gdalinfo --formats | grep -i ecw
What operating systems are you using?

Rich

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Stephen Woodbridge

2011-11-14 Thread Richard Greenwood
All-

Stephen Woodbridge is another one of those members of our community
that I just assumed was already a charter member. I can not count the
number of times that he has helped me either in direct response to my
questions, or indirectly with his authoritative insight on so many
OSGeo topics.

Rich

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Lime, Steve D (DNR)
 wrote:
> Second this nomination!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Dan Putler
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:19 AM
> To: c...@osgeo.org
> Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Stephen Woodbridge
>
> Hi all,
>
> We, Dan Putler and Daniel Kastl, are nominating Stephen Woodbridge to be
> a Charter Member of OSGeo. We have both worked with Steve as part of a
> project team, Daniel Kastl on pgRouting and Dan Putler on PAGC. We have
> both found him to be an outstanding colleague and important contributor
> to these projects.
>
> Steve is one of the original, and on going, members of the Project
> Steering Committee of the MapServer Project. He is also a member of the
> Project Steering Committees of pgRouting and PAGC. In addition, he has
> acted for several years as a mentor to Google Summer of Code students
> who have worked on OSGeo Summer of Code projects.
>
> In addition to the projects he is directly involved in, Steve has been a
> important contributor to the user mailing lists of several other
> projects. We feel his helpfulness to other participants on the
> PostGIS-Users mailing list is particularly noteworthy, but he is an
> important (and helpful) contributor to other lists as well.
>
> Given his contributions to geospatial FOSS software and users of that
> software, we believe that Steve would be a worthy Charter Member of OSGeo.
>
> Dan and Daniel
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thoughts on how to use elevation in routing

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Greenwood
ng from the pgrouting list, sorry for the dups.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have preprocessed some shapefile data and added elevation
>>>>> information in the Z value of the coordinates. I'm wondering how to
>>>>> best utilize that in routes and would like any thoughts or ideas you
>>>>> might be willing to share.
>>>>>
>>>>> The obvious answer is to wrap the elevation data into the cost values
>>>>> as this is simple and straight forward and does not require code
>>>>> changes. This brings me to what have other people done or thought
>>>>> about doing in this regard?
>>>>
>>>> Since you seem to enjoy large database problems, have you considered
>>>> loading the DEM data together with the roads and sample the viewshed
>>>> every few km? You could then create an objective cost factor for
>>>> "scenic," proportional to the amount of land visible, with some
>>>> adjusting factor that distinguishes morphology, land cover, or other
>>>> weighted factors from each sample point. Creating a scale of "scenic"
>>>> and "picturesque" as it goes form "ho-hum flatland" to "precipitous,
>>>> brake-burning, wheel-gripping adventurous" might be fun all by itself.
>>>>
>>>> If you're looking for 3D ideas, there's a GIS consulting company across
>>>> the hall from me that specializes in 3D information, visualization and
>>>> analysis, and I know they are working on web services to deliver the
>>>> sort of data that an application like yours would consume. Their website
>>>> is full of 3D imagery, articles and examples that you might want to
>>>> check out for ideas or inspiration There's a particularly good
>>>> demonstration of using fog instead of shadow to create a visual
>>>> representation of ridge lines, if your 're using those to determine a
>>>> topographic index (see http://ctmap.com/serendipity/index.php).
>>>>
>>>> *Bill Thoen*
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] land records management with open source GIS

2010-06-21 Thread Richard Greenwood
Puneet,

I have several loosely coupled applications that web-enable land records:
* Land records search, scanned document retrieval, link to mapserver;
 http://www2.tetonwyo.org/clerk/query/
* Mapserver linked to land records (use info tool, follow "Clerk"
link) and linked to property taxes (follow "Treasurer" link from info
tool) and appraisal/assessment data (follow "Assessor" link)
 http://www2.tetonwyo.org/mapserver
* Property taxes:
 http://www2.tetonwyo.org/clerk/treas/
These applications are for county government. They are in use in
several counties in Idaho & Wyoming. They present the data on the web
to the public and county staff, but at this point they do not manager
the data (read only display, not input/edit). They are based on
Postgres/PostGIS, OpenLayers, MapServer, PHP.

Best regards,
Rich

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, P Kishor  wrote:
> does anyone know of an existing product, or a firm that develops such
> a product catering to cadastral and land records management, but using
> a completely open source stack?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-03 Thread Richard Greenwood
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:

> I'm wanting to convince Open Source skeptics that there is robust Open
> Source Software available for surveyors which they can use right now.
>
> Eg, here is a list of tasks that surveyors regularly perform:
>
> Task 1:
> * XXX organisation (ideally big name organisation), uses YYY OS software to
> achieve task.
>
> Task 2:
> ...


I would present OSGEO software as a "GIS on-ramp" for surveyors,
rather than a replacement for their existing software. Focus on areas
where surveying and CAD software are weak, but where GIS software
excels:
* working with imagery
* working in multiple coordinate systems
* database integration
* quick map production & printing

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Hosting Solutions

2010-02-08 Thread Richard Greenwood
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kumaran Narayanaswamy
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We are in the process of looking out for a best hosting provider to host the
> FOSS4G Web applications. Can anyone suggest us the best and affordable
> hosting solutions to deploy MapServer, GeoServer applications?


I've been very happy with Micro Resources http://spatialserver.com/


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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2009 Sol Katz Award?

2009-10-27 Thread Richard Greenwood
So I know y'all had a great time down under and I'm sorry I couldn't
make it. But who received the Sol Katz Award?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-25 Thread Richard Greenwood
My first post had a space at the end of the URL. Try:
http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public
Record.pdf<http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf>


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Bill Thoen wrote:
> Richard Greenwood wrote:
>>
>> A friend of my prepared this analysis of geodata distribution and fees at
>> the county government level in the US:
>> http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public
>> Record.pdf
>> <
http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf%20
>
>
> This comes up as 404 (not found) Is that the correct URL?
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Greenwood
Maybe this URL will work.
http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public
Record.pdf<http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf>
The previous one had an extraneous space at the end.


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> A friend of my prepared this analysis of geodata distribution and fees at
> the county government level in the US:
> http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public
> Record.pdf<http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf%20>
> I think it may be of interest to some members of this list. Although the US
> federal government sets a very high standard for freedom of information,
> local governments often do not rise to the same level.
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Geodata as Public Record in U.S.

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Greenwood
A friend of my prepared this analysis of geodata distribution and fees at
the county government level in the US:
http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS Data as Public
Record.pdf<http://home.centurytel.net/wilsonlandsurvey/docs/GIS%20Data%20as%20Public%20Record.pdf%20>
I think it may be of interest to some members of this list. Although the US
federal government sets a very high standard for freedom of information,
local governments often do not rise to the same level.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] case studies on FOSS Geo for local governance

2009-03-14 Thread Richard Greenwood
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:28 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are looking for case studies/success stories in deploying FOSS Geo
> for local government.  I earnestly believe that FOSS tools are
> available for adoption in local government.  Critical is how to
> integrated them to a provincial/city wide government IT
> infrastructure.  In the Philippines, geospatial technologies are often
> used in:
>
> property/parcel tax mapping
> zoning
> development planning
>
> However, in most cases these "domains" are "loosely" integrated.
> Sometimes the GIS in the planning division doesn't "communicate" with
> the assesor's office in terms of data management.  What we are looking
> for are stories that integrate FOSS GEO tools in the overall IT
> infrastructure.  I know some of the strategies maybe "institutional"
> rather than technical in nature.
>
> What technologies do we need (dbase managment, server, desktop apps)?
> How do we provide capacity to local government staff?
> How do we integrate the data into planning?
>

I have built MapServer applications for several counties and have them
linked from my website. www.greenwoodmap.com They integrate data in
legacy databases from Assessor, Treasurer, Clerk, Planning&Zoning
departments and make the aggregated data available back to the
departments, to the public, and to emergency responders. I use
PostgreSQL for the data processing and as the backend for the
websites. These are examples, not case studies.

Best regards,
Rich

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[OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Presentation (was: ESRI Spain conference incident)

2008-10-25 Thread Richard Greenwood
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23-Oct-08, at 11:51 AM, Richard Greenwood wrote:
>
>> I'm please to say that this morning I gave a 30 minute presentation on
>> Open Source Geospatial software at the Southwest U.S. ESRI Users Group
>> meeting and that it was well received.
>
> Great to hear!   Where were you presenting and do you have slides to share?
>
> Tyler

I am not sure if it will make much sense without the dialog, but it is
available on my website at:
   http://www.greenwoodmap.com/presentations

I did a very fast introduction of my favorite OSGeo projects (sorry if
I left yours out). GDAL got a little extra attention because I thought
it was likely to be the most useful of the tools for my audience.

Rich

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident

2008-10-23 Thread Richard Greenwood
I'm please to say that this morning I gave a 30 minute presentation on
Open Source Geospatial software at the Southwest U.S. ESRI Users Group
meeting and that it was well received.

Thanks to those of you that answered a couple I posted on lists
recently in conjunction with researching my presentation.

Regards,
Rich

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Alex Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Miguel Montesinos wrote:
>>> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] en nombre de Dave Patton
>>> Enviado el: sáb 18/10/2008 18:22
>>> Para: OSGeo Discussions
>>> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESRI Spain conference incident
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> On 2008/10/17 12:15 AM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:
>>>> Hi All, I resend this mail to OSGeo discuss because I think is a
>>>> serious incident that cannot be obviated and shows how things are
>>>> getting at least in Spanish market.
>>>> As Alvaro says, why they have this behavior with his colleagues? Maybe
>>>> they fear FOSS companies?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, all of you are invited to the gvSIG conf, even to discuss,
>>>> it's free in both senses ;)
>>> ESRI was a sponsor at FOSS4G 2007, and had a Lab.
>>> Who knows, maybe they will be involved somehow in
>>> FOSS4G 2009(for sure they won't be excluded just
>>> because they are viewed as competition for FOSS).
>>
>> "Viewed as competition for FOSS" -> Well, they say (I asked about it at 
>> ESRI's booth during both FOSS4G 2007 & 2008) that they have made some 
>> contributions to open-source, as the openness of shapefile format or 
>> offering WMS servers. :-D
>>
>>
>>> Perhaps they can have a booth in the exhibition
>>> (and maybe gvSIG wants to have a booth right next
>>> to the ESRI booth ;-)
>>
>> For sure FOSS4G ESRI's attendees are much more polite (and clever) than 
>> their Spanish collegues.
>>
>> Maybe it would be wiser to make a request for a booth in the world annual 
>> ESRI's conference (I don't know nor want to, the exact name). Would they 
>> admit a FOSS4G booth (it doesn't matter which project could be) as we make 
>> at FOSS4G? It would be funny to see an OSGeo booth showing the integration 
>> capabilities of OSGeo projects against ESRI closed products, or even a 
>> comparison.
>>
> If we called it a Proj,Python,OGC booth they'd have a hard time saying
> no considering their inclusion of said products/standards in their
> application.
>
> Alex
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Origins Of OpenJUMP

2008-01-04 Thread Richard Greenwood
Landon,

Thanks for taking the time to provide the detailed background on on
the Jump family tree. Seems to me like the Java 'tribe' is a bit more
fractured than the C 'tribe'.

Rich


On Jan 4, 2008 8:43 AM, Landon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> I'll respond to your questions in a separate thread. :] (I invite any
> other OSGeo members that work with OpenJUMP or UDig to correct mistakes
> or add details to my post.)
>
> JUMP was originally developed by Vivid Solutions with some assistance
> (I'm not sure how much) by Refractions Research. I believe the funding
> for the development for JUMP came from some source in the Canadian
> government. (This source was one of the Canadian Provinces, if I
> remember correctly.)
>
> At some point funding was awarded for "JUMP 2". This time the funds went
> to Refractions Research. Their development team had identified some of
> the design flaws in the original JUMP, and decided to fix these. In the
> end they decided to go with a completely new design, and UDig was the
> result.
>
> In the meantime Steve Tanner and some other JUMP users decided to fork
> the code base for JUMP. This was not done hastily. It's been a while
> since all this happened, and I'm not clear on every detail, but I
> believe one main reason we forked was a desire to internationalize
> JUMP's source code. The bottom line is that Vivid Solutions was (in my
> modest opinion) unresponsive to outside developers desire to make
> reasonable improvements or even contribute patches. At the same time
> they were doing very little with the code base themselves. This is what
> led to the fork. At one point we had a handful of different individual
> developers and organization maintaining their own versions of JUMP, and
> we realized we could all get together and benefit from a common core.
>
> This is still how OpenJUMP operates. We've got guys that maintain their
> own code bases with individual tools and modifications, but they all
> make a good effort to port the best (and least controversial) stuff back
> to the core. There really is no formal governance mechanism in place. We
> all get along well and try to help each other out.
>
> There are some issues with our model of development. We don't have a
> great release cycle, although that has been discussed in the last few
> months, and developer turnover can be fairly high. I'm also easily
> distracted, and I have to exercise self discipline to finish as task
> once I start it. I must regretfully admit this has not helped the
> project. (I'm consciously working on that personality flaw.)
>
> A couple of interesting things to note:
>
> - Our relationship with Vivid Solutions seems to have improved over the
> course of the last year. The two developers at the company that are "in
> charge" of JUMP occasionally help out with a problem on the OpenJUMP
> mailing list, and users of JUMP and OpenJUMP share a common mailing
> list. We've even talked about the possibility of merging JUMP and
> OpenJUMP back to a common core, but I think this is unlikely without
> some major funding at Vivid Solutions.
>
> - Had Steve and I known about Refractions Research involvement with
> "JUMP 2" OpenJUMP and UDig would probably be the same program. I look at
> this with deep regret, although I don't think it is anyone's fault in
> particular. Still, I think about what the JUMP user community could have
> accomplished with Refractions Research and I get little tears in my
> eyes. :]
>
> Still, I get a kick out of Jody Garnett, and I hope OpenJUMP and
> GeoTools/UDig can work together more in the future. We definitely have
> some different approaches to certain aspects of software design, but I
> think at a minimum we can share data I/O or data access code and map
> projection code.
>
> Landon
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:32 PM
> To: Landon Blake
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4GIS business models
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 4:37 PM, Landon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think OpenJUMP might be an example of the opposite case. In this
> situation the less-than-ideal management of a FOSS GIS program by a
> private company led to a fork. The fork was made, not by another
> company, but by a group of individual users/developers.
>
> I'm interested in more details of the history and relationship between
> Jump, OpenJump, and uDig. I think OpenJump and uDig have roots in
> Jump, which was started by Martin Davis, or am I incorrect? And the
> fork came about when? And 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Shapefiles to mapinfo files

2007-04-05 Thread Richard Greenwood

On 4/5/07, Do Xuan Quan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all
Do you know tool to convert from mapinfo file to shape file and from shape
file back to mapinfo file?
Regards
Do Xuan Quan


You can't go wrong with FW Tools:
 http://fwtools.maptools.org/

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Re: [Geodata] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Promoting freely available geodata

2007-03-31 Thread Richard Greenwood

On 3/30/07, Jason Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kamloops (Canadian municipality) takes an interesting approach.  They have a 
click-through, but it's not asserting any rights, just disclaiming liability.  
Their GIS manager explained that they are essentially placing the data into 
public domain:


I like the Kamloops language and may barrow a bit of it (assuming it's
not copyrighted ). Below is a link to some language I wrote, and
that has been out there for about 10 years. I am not suggesting that
it is exemplary because I'm sure not a lawyer, but it has a unique
clause requiring reciprocal data sharing by users. The county for
which I wrote the statement requires surveyors and engineers to
provide digital files (AutoCad, etc.) for new subdivisions and other
developments.

  http://www2.tetonwyo.org/gis/download/default.asp

Rich

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Many Question about the OSGeo

2007-02-22 Thread Richard Greenwood

Frank,

Thanks for taking the time to answer the questions. It is awesome how
much OSGeo has done and in how little time!

Rich




On 2/21/07, Frank Warmerdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Richard Greenwood wrote:
> I thought these were some pretty good questions, but I never saw a
> repy. Did I miss it?

Rich,

I think Tyler answered directly to Kai, with references to the FAQ
and so forth.  For kicks, I'll try and answer the questions I can.

On 2/9/07, Kai Behncke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Hello list,
 >
 > for an article in a German Newspaper I have a couple of questions about the
 > OSGeo. The aim of that article is to give informations to a broader public 
and
 > to promote the OSGeo in a professional journal.Maybe you can help me?
 >
 > I need to produce an organigram, so:
 >
 > 1. Is it correct, that the "Board of Directors" is elected by the 45 "charter
 > members"?

Yes

 > 2. Who is electing the 45 "charter members"? How do people get the status
 > as a "charter member"?

The initial 25 or so were based on who was at the formation meeting in
Chicago.  The next 20 were selected by the initial members.  Likewise
future charter members will be selected by the existing charter members.

 > 3.There are 9 committees.Everyone has a "chair-person". Who is electing that
 > "chair-person"?

The Committee chairs are appointed by the board of directors, though
generally speaking they are appointed at the recommendation of the
committee.  The chair's are generally considered to be "officers" of
the foundation, so the board reserves the right to approve committee
chairs.

 > 4. What is the job of the Executive Director?

I think the most official description can be found at:

   http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Executive_Director_Job_Description

Generally speaking they act as a facilitator for the various activities
of the foundation, and help make sure stuff that needs to get done, gets
done when there is no volunteer available to do it.

 > I would write down some examples about what the OSGeo has done practically.
 > On the homepage it`s written:
 >
 > "The foundation provides financial, organizational and legal support to the
 > broader open source geospatial community."

A good summary of accomplishments so far can be found in Tyler's
blog post, which I have discovered is not too evident on the web site:

   http://www.osgeo.org/tyler/osgeo_1st_anniversary

 > 5.Does that mean, that the OSGeo spends money ,for example, to develop the
 > code  of special OS-Software?

This is possible, but generally speaking OSGeo doesn't spend foundation
funds on direct development.  It does provide a mechanism - "Project
Sponsorship" - where by projects can collect and disperse sponsorship
funds for specific tasks on a given project.  This could be software
development or other activities.

 > 6.Which projects where sponsored concretely?

Currently on the GDAL project is participating in the Project Sponsorship
mechanism.  We have collected sufficient funds to contract Mateusz
Loskot for six months (600 hours anyways) of general maintenance activities
on the GDAL project, which should start March 1st.

Note that we also have the concept of Foundation Sponsorship.  These funds
are used for purposes such as legal support, promotion (booths at trade
shows for instance), infrastructure (ie. internet hosting) and Tyler's
salary.

 > 7.Is there somewhere an overview how much money the OSGeo spends for what?
 > Just to have an impression of the dimensions.

We have a budget, but this is highly contingent on what funds are actually
raised:

   http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Budget_2006-2007

Practically speaking, the pdf attached to the following email summarizes
actual funds spent so far, not counting a variety of expenses that were
paid directly by Autodesk as an in-kind contribution.

   http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2007-February/001827.html

Note that this is a preliminary financial report and has not yet been
approved by the Treasurer.

 > 8.Can you give me some practical examples what the OSGeo has concretely done?
 > So that we can write down some "hard facts".
 > Can you give me an example for the legal support?

Legal support so far has taken the form of general and specific legal
advice on various project "intellectual property" issues.  These include
the drafting, and revision of contribution agreements, and copyright
assignment documents.  We have also received a variety of legal advice
related to setting up the foundation (bylaws, etc).

 > 9. Do you have a statistic how many hits the site https://www.osgeo.org/
 > has per day, or maybe a statistic how many users are registered in
 > the various mailing lists of the OSGeo?

There are a few statistics at:

 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Many Question about the OSGeo

2007-02-21 Thread Richard Greenwood

I thought these were some pretty good questions, but I never saw a
repy. Did I miss it?

Rich

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On 2/9/07, Kai Behncke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello list,

for an article in a German Newspaper I have a couple of questions about the
OSGeo. The aim of that article is to give informations to a broader public and
to promote the OSGeo in a professional journal.Maybe you can help me?

I need to produce an organigram, so:

1. Is it correct, that the "Board of Directors" is elected by the 45 "charter
members"?

2. Who is electing the 45 "charter members"? How do people get the status as a
"charter member"?

3.There are 9 committees.Everyone has a "chair-person". Who is electing that
"chair-person"?

4. What is the job of the Executive Director?

I would write down some examples about what the OSGeo has done practically.
On the homepage it`s written:

"The foundation provides financial, organizational and legal support to the
broader open source geospatial community."

5.Does that mean, that the OSGeo spends money ,for example, to develop the
code  of special OS-Software?
6.Which projects where sponsored concretely?

7.Is there somewhere an overview how much money the OSGeo spends for what?
Just to have an impression of the dimensions.

8.Can you give me some practical examples what the OSGeo has concretely done?
So that we can write down some "hard facts".
Can you give me an example for the legal support?

9. Do you have a statistic how many hits the site https://www.osgeo.org/
has per day, or maybe a statistic how many users are registered in the various
mailing lists of the OSGeo?

Thank you very much in advance :-)
Kai


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