Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] open repository for general research GIS data ?

[Vaclav Petras]

Hi Karsten,

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:11 AM, karsten  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I just had a colleague ask me about open data repositories for GIS files.
> Despite knowing the usual suspects such as OSM, GeoWiki, Natural earth data
> ,
> Global administrative areas and so on I am not aware that there would be
> a more general option to store general research GIS data e.g. for
> scientific purposes such as agricultural research results ...
>
> The original request from my colleague is: *"Regarding open GIS data,
> where are the most stable/accessible/well known depositories of open access
> data that researchers can add their data to?  We are thinking of the
> possibilities for archiving data layers so that they can be used by anyone,
> but ( ideally) without us having to take responsibility for running the
> servers etc.  As an example for non-spatial data we use Dataverse."*
>
> Would anyone be aware of such a repository ?
>

Have a look at WorldMap.

https://about.worldmap.harvard.edu/

It shows the map online, you can download it, and the website says that
they are working on an integration with Datavese. It is also fully open
source.

Best,
Vaclav
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] usage of PCI Geomatica in the Canadian industry or government organizations

[Vaclav Petras]

Hi Brigitte,

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Brigitte Leblon  wrote:

> I spoke some more with others about Geomatica, and I continue to have
> questions about its usefulness [...] There are specialized Geomatics
> companies that do the image processing [...] employees normally purchased
> the processed data to be used in Arc GIS for their needs.


The issue here seems to be more about what topics the students should learn
rather than the software choice. But one way or the other, the teaching
should emphasize general methods, rather than software workflows. This is
often challenging to achieve, thus me and my colleagues suggest that at
least two different software packages should be actively used in classes
and at least one of them should be open source. In the following article we
provide reasoning and details:

http://www.mdpi.com/2220-9964/4/2/942

Here is a material available for reuse (with attribution) using QGIS and
GRASS GIS for remote sensing:

http://spatialquerylab.com/foss4g-academy-curriculum/gst-105-introduction-to-remote-sensing/

Vaclav
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UN training material

[Vaclav Petras]

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Maria Brovelli 
wrote:

> QGIS, PostreSQL, PostGIS, Geoserver, OpenLayers, Geonode
>
> of referencing them at this wiki page
>
> *https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/UNTraining
> *
>


So, now I don't understand. There is now much more projects than in the
above list. Should I add GRASS GIS as well (partially already included
through GeoAcademy)? And what is the overlap with the OSGeo Educational
Content Inventory [1] already mentioned by Charlie? It seems to me that it
is quite high.

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/education
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo sponsors ?

[Vaclav Petras]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Mateusz Loskot  wrote:
>
> It may be also worth to observe the differences between FOSS vs OSS,
> and that there is no mention of "Free" on the http://www.osgeo.org front
page.
> Please, notice there is OSI, not FSF, logo on
> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/about.html.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Andy Anderson 
wrote:
>
> Of course [1] is one reason why Stallman implemented the copyleft
requirement:
>
> http://opensource.org/faq#copyleft
>
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Barry Rowlingson <
b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > As long as they obey the license terms, I don't think OSGeo should
> > worry about taking money from PropGeo Corp. OSGeo does not suffer from
> > Stallmania, an uncontrollable urge to insist all software should be
> > free.
> >
> > [1] and some (no names) by releasing code that needs their proprietary
> > code to work anyway, we call this "open-washing"...
> > http://opensource.com/business/14/12/openwashing-more-prevalent

We are going little bit off topic here, but as I see it, it is a part of
the "being open source compass" to inform users about things such as what
open means, why proprietary software companies contribute, what copyleft
means for developers and what for users, why this open source based cloud
is not for free, and why this open source plugin to my open source software
needs this proprietary and paid software to actually work.

Vaclav
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Please add GRASS GIS Addons to OSGeo on OpenHub

[Vaclav Petras]

On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Jeff McKenna  wrote:

> Hi Vaclav,
>
> I've added the GRASS GIS Addons project to the OSGeo organization on
> OpenHub, thanks for pointing that out.
>
> Please let me know if anything else needs changing.
>

Thanks Jeff. Looks good now, at least for GRASS GIS.

Vaclav


>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-09-19 6:22 AM, Vaclav Petras wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> some time ago I've created GRASS GIS Addons project [1] on OpenHub. I
>> would like this project to be added to OSGeo OpenHub organization but
>> only admis can do it. If this is not the right place to ask, please let
>> me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vaclav
>>
>> [1] https://www.openhub.net/p/grass_gis_addons
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Please add GRASS GIS Addons to OSGeo on OpenHub

[Vaclav Petras]

Hi,

some time ago I've created GRASS GIS Addons project [1] on OpenHub. I would
like this project to be added to OSGeo OpenHub organization but only admis
can do it. If this is not the right place to ask, please let me know.

Thanks,
Vaclav

[1] https://www.openhub.net/p/grass_gis_addons
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dockerize OSGeo App

[Vaclav Petras]

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Frans Thamura  wrote:
> > hi all
> >
> > anyone work with docker, and any list that osgeo app that run or have
docker
> > image, es in docker hub
>
> Time ago I played a bit
> http://courses.neteler.org/fun-docker-grass-gis-software/
>
> (GRASS GIS 7 in docker with graphical user interface "exported")

Here is a repository with Dockerfile which uses `ssh` or `ssh -X`:

https://github.com/wenzeslaus/grass-gis-docker

docker build github.com/wenzeslaus/grass-gis-docker

Good for simulating remote server or for workshops. See:

https://github.com/wenzeslaus/python-grass-addon

Vaclav
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of having Open Principles in Education for our future generations

[Vaclav Petras]

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Tom Roche  wrote:

> Randal Hale Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:17:54 -0400[2]
> > Ms Keith (on this list as of last night and cc'd) has a lab but it is
> quickly going out of date with regards to proprietary software. My wish has
> been to replace everything with QGIS - GIS is GIS.
>
> And OS[3] are OS, so maximize the utility of the
>
> > "older computers" at schools [being used] for learning
>
> and slap a Linux on them. The OSGeo wiki points to some bundles, including
> (e.g.) DebianGIS[4], Enterprise Linux GIS[5], and UbuntuGIS[6] (of which,
> IIUC, the latter is the most active).
>

And sure enough, there are Linux distributions designed to work well on
(very) low-end hardware, for example Lubuntu [1] and Xubuntu [2].

[1] http://lubuntu.net/
[2] http://xubuntu.org/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How to quantify the economic impact of OSGeo software? Your help needed for a research article

[Vaclav Petras]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Suchith Anand <
suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> For example, reading through
> http://news.aag.org/2015/05/aag-seeks-proposal-authors-reviewers-for-new-ap-course-in-gist/
> i understand that  "In 2014, Esri announced a $1 billion gift of
> cloud-based ArcGIS Online software to support the Obama Administration’s
> ConnectEd initiative. This remarkable gift is providing free ArcGIS Online
> accounts to any public or private school upon request. " I am interested to
> understand how this $1 billion gift is calculated?  Can anyone
> knowledgeable on this provide the details of these metrics use for this
> calculation?
>

I don't know about their calculation but here is mine:

If I provide service for $100 per customer and I give the same service to
10 customers for free, I could claim that I donated $1000. But this would
be wrong. I need some money to run the service for the non-paying customers
and I need to get this money from the paying customers. Thus, the price
$100 already contains money to run the service for non-paying customers and
the gift $1000 is therefore overestimated.

Well, these are my two cents. Correct if I'm wrong.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

[Vaclav Petras]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand <
suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:

> Thanks Jeff.
>
> Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on this , we
> couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a good opportunity  to
> modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community Projects"
> to avoid confusion if that is acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many
> thanks.
>
> Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a name. Even
mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way or the other.
Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.

Vaclav


> Suchith
>
> 
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org]
> On Behalf Of Jeff McKenna [jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:26 PM
> To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>
> (we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has been an
> issue and discussed[1])
>
> Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
> education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good time to
> modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
> Projects".
>
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-June/000134.html
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
> > Vaclav,
> >
> > Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i did not
> think on this  when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs initiative (so many
> things were going on at that time!).
> >
> > In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to
> infrastructure/people/facilities for a particular subject. For example
> Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure there is a
> dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities worldwide  (which
> includes bringing together people from various disciplines, infrastructure
> (the physical space) and facilities to make this happen. Also it is easier
> to make use of the same terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely
> used in the university environment to get academics start the initiative in
> their respective universities (also it is easier for them to convince their
> higher management on a structure that is known to them than reinvent a new
> term for this) .
> >
> > So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
> "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for the
> incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many thanks for
> your consideration.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Suchith
> >
> > 
> > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org]
> On Behalf Of Jachym Cepicky [jachym.cepi...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:27 AM
> > To: Vaclav Petras
> > Cc: OSGeo Discussions; incuba...@lists.osgeo.org
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
> >
> > Vašku,
> >
> > just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative "OSGeo-Labs" have
> to change their name.
> >
> > My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and
> "projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or
> similar) rating system.
> >
> > Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make it (or
> similar)
> >
> > Jachym
> >
> > po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras  <mailto:wenzesl...@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky <
> jachym.cepi...@gmail.com<mailto:jachym.cepi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in past, but
> you can find more at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs)
> >
> > Hi Jachym,
> >
> > do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name "OSGeo Labs"
> by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo Research and
> Educational laboratories which might be often shortened to OSGeo Labs,
> although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing. The mainling list is
> ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such an issue since the term "Geo for
> All" (http://www.geoforall.org/) is now used more and more (well, the
> linked website as OSGeo Labs in the title element).
> >
> > Thanks for taking this into consideration,
> > Vaclav
> >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure

[Vaclav Petras]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky 
wrote:

> former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in past, but
> you can find more at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs)
>

Hi Jachym,

do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name "OSGeo Labs" by
something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo Research and Educational
laboratories which might be often shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I
prefer OSGeoRELs for writing. The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put
perhaps it is not such an issue since the term "Geo for All" (
http://www.geoforall.org/) is now used more and more (well, the linked
website as OSGeo Labs in the title element).

Thanks for taking this into consideration,
Vaclav
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