Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API
Hi Landon, OGC credibility is very much at stake here. Should we propose a name change? OGC - EGC? Little about this process seems genuinely open... and is getting less so as it drags on. Regards, Brent Wood --- On Thu, 5/9/13, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: From: Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API To: Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com Cc: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org, tc-disc...@lists.opengeospatial.org, standa...@lists.osgeo.org, Craig Sandy csa...@esriaustralia.com.au Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 4:24 PM Does the OGC still have any credibility as a transparent standards organization after this? I'm very disappointed in ESRI and OGC based on what I've heard so far. Pretty hard to believe this is coming from the folks that first published the Shapefile specification that made a lot of open source GIS software practical. I guess that is what happens when there is a lot of short term profits on the line. How short-sighted. I hope they change their mind. Landon On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com wrote: I have been notified that ESRI/OGC will not be sharing reasons for voting for the GeoServices REST API that has been sent to OGC voting members. I'm disappointed that such information is being with held from public debate. On 8/05/2013 4:51 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Craig, I understand that ESRI has been emailing some OGC voting members reasons for approving the GeoServices REST API. I think it appropriate to have an open discussion, and hear both the pros and cons for adopting the GeoServices REST API. Could you please share your comments on a public email list so that the community has an opportunity to hear the other side of the argument. -- Cameron Shorter Software and Data Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Data Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com -- -- The contents of this email are confidential and may be subject to legal or professional privilege and copyright. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses or other defects. If you have received this communication in error, you may not copy or distribute any part of it or otherwise disclose its contents to anyone. Please advise the sender of your incorrect receipt of this correspondence. ___ Standards mailing list standa...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API
Does the OGC still have any credibility as a transparent standards organization after this? I'm very disappointed in ESRI and OGC based on what I've heard so far. Pretty hard to believe this is coming from the folks that first published the Shapefile specification that made a lot of open source GIS software practical. I guess that is what happens when there is a lot of short term profits on the line. How short-sighted. I hope they change their mind. Landon On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com wrote: I have been notified that ESRI/OGC will not be sharing reasons for voting for the GeoServices REST API that has been sent to OGC voting members. I'm disappointed that such information is being with held from public debate. On 8/05/2013 4:51 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Craig, I understand that ESRI has been emailing some OGC voting members reasons for approving the GeoServices REST API. I think it appropriate to have an open discussion, and hear both the pros and cons for adopting the GeoServices REST API. Could you please share your comments on a public email list so that the community has an opportunity to hear the other side of the argument. -- Cameron Shorter Software and Data Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Data Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com -- -- The contents of this email are confidential and may be subject to legal or professional privilege and copyright. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses or other defects. If you have received this communication in error, you may not copy or distribute any part of it or otherwise disclose its contents to anyone. Please advise the sender of your incorrect receipt of this correspondence. __**_ Standards mailing list standa...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/standardshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] ESRI, please publicly share reasons for given for adopting the GeoServices REST API
We may be late, but this still smells fishy. Wrapping things up in a formal process doesn't change the fishy smell. Landon On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Craig Sandy csa...@esriaustralia.com.auwrote: Hi All As I understand it, the open discussion was prior to the commencement of voting. So it appears that it was missed by our Australian voters. Neither Esri or OGC should be blamed for following process if our involvement in the process is late. Regards Craig Sent from my iPhone On 09/05/2013, at 2:25 PM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: Does the OGC still have any credibility as a transparent standards organization after this? I'm very disappointed in ESRI and OGC based on what I've heard so far. Pretty hard to believe this is coming from the folks that first published the Shapefile specification that made a lot of open source GIS software practical. I guess that is what happens when there is a lot of short term profits on the line. How short-sighted. I hope they change their mind. Landon On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@lisasoft.com wrote: I have been notified that ESRI/OGC will not be sharing reasons for voting for the GeoServices REST API that has been sent to OGC voting members. I'm disappointed that such information is being with held from public debate. On 8/05/2013 4:51 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Craig, I understand that ESRI has been emailing some OGC voting members reasons for approving the GeoServices REST API. I think it appropriate to have an open discussion, and hear both the pros and cons for adopting the GeoServices REST API. Could you please share your comments on a public email list so that the community has an opportunity to hear the other side of the argument. -- Cameron Shorter Software and Data Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Data Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com -- -- The contents of this email are confidential and may be subject to legal or professional privilege and copyright. No representation is made that this email is free of viruses or other defects. If you have received this communication in error, you may not copy or distribute any part of it or otherwise disclose its contents to anyone. Please advise the sender of your incorrect receipt of this correspondence. __**_ Standards mailing list standa...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/**mailman/listinfo/standardshttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards ---Safe Stamp--- Your Anti-virus Service scanned this email. It is safe from known viruses. For more information regarding this service, please contact your service provider. * We invite you to share your GIS story at Australia's largest spatial event, by becoming a presenter at Ozri 2013. Submit an abstracthttp://esriaustralia.com.au/events-ozri-2013-become-a-presenternow. * http://www.esriaustralia.com.au Freecall 1800 447 111 Putting knowledge into place™ This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents and delete the message and any attachments from your system. The contents of this message does not necessarily represent the opinions of Esri Australia . Esri Australia does not accept any responsibility for loss or damage that may result from reliance on, or the use of, the information contained in this e-mail and any attachments.**Please consider the environment before printing this email** ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
