Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-18 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the update. I am still not yet fully
aware about what was discussed at the Boston f2f
or the LocationTech meeting that you attended.

As I said in my email,, it is better to clearly and
officially formulate the partnership between
LocationTech and OSGeo..

My first priority as a President of OSGeo foundation
would be to address the concerns raised by our
charter members as we continue to move forward
with our  relationship with LocationTech or other
organizations.

Best

Venka


On 8/18/2017 8:34 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

Venka,

This is something we discussed quite a bit at both the Boston F2F and at
the LocationTech meeting that I was invited to attend. It was agreed that
we all wanted to work together on the MoU but to also work closer together
on the process so it reflects interests and concerns on both sides. Norman
Barker will be attending some OSGeo board meetings to continue the
discussions and I will be attending some LocationTech meetings as well. We
need to keep discussing this both at the meetings and on the list to
continue forward with what is already a very good working relationship.

Mike


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From: Discuss  on behalf of Venkatesh
Raghavan 
Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM
To: Marc Vloemans , Helmut Kudrnovsky
, OSGeo Discussions 
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way
forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly
Resent-From: Michael Smith 


Hi Marc,

Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting
OSGeo events and code sprints.

As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month,
we could consider going beyond the "informal" partnership
between LocationTech and OSGeo Foundation and having
a MoU. I think this would help to answer some of the questions
that Helmut has raised and avoid any misunderstandings
in the future.

I had sent you some suggestions on drafting an MoU that you can
go through and perhaps, find time to discuss f2f with OSGeo board
members attending FOSS4G-Boston.

Best

Venka

On 2017/08/18 6:23, Marc Vloemans wrote:

Dear Helmut,

I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and
evolving community.

LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects,
LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many
years on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work
regarding community and market development.

All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the
efforts, care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that
by raising a discussion as you propose

Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing
Committee, former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G
2016, Chair of FOSS4G North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem
Development Eclipse Foundation with special focus on its Industry
Working Group LocationTech.

Your comments are actually turning back the clock.

If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately
misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G
in Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward.
Towards unimaginable opportunities.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans



Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky  het
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"Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly"

now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about
this.

What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making
how we, as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects

>from other organisations.

What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects?
Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects

>from any other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be

promoted?

Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an
OSGeo charter member.

Kind regards
Helmut
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-18 Thread Michael Smith 
Venka,

This is something we discussed quite a bit at both the Boston F2F and at
the LocationTech meeting that I was invited to attend. It was agreed that
we all wanted to work together on the MoU but to also work closer together
on the process so it reflects interests and concerns on both sides. Norman
Barker will be attending some OSGeo board meetings to continue the
discussions and I will be attending some LocationTech meetings as well. We
need to keep discussing this both at the meetings and on the list to
continue forward with what is already a very good working relationship.

Mike


Michael Smith
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-Original Message-
From: Discuss  on behalf of Venkatesh
Raghavan 
Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM
To: Marc Vloemans , Helmut Kudrnovsky
, OSGeo Discussions 
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way
forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly
Resent-From: Michael Smith 

>Hi Marc,
>
>Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting
>OSGeo events and code sprints.
>
>As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month,
>we could consider going beyond the "informal" partnership
>between LocationTech and OSGeo Foundation and having
>a MoU. I think this would help to answer some of the questions
>that Helmut has raised and avoid any misunderstandings
>in the future.
>
>I had sent you some suggestions on drafting an MoU that you can
>go through and perhaps, find time to discuss f2f with OSGeo board
>members attending FOSS4G-Boston.
>
>Best
>
>Venka
>
>On 2017/08/18 6:23, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> Dear Helmut,
>>
>> I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and
>>evolving community.
>>
>> LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects,
>>LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many
>>years on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work
>>regarding community and market development.
>>
>> All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the
>>efforts, care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that
>>by raising a discussion as you propose
>>
>> Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing
>>Committee, former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G
>>2016, Chair of FOSS4G North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem
>>Development Eclipse Foundation with special focus on its Industry
>>Working Group LocationTech.
>>
>> Your comments are actually turning back the clock.
>>
>> If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately
>>misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G
>>in Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward.
>>Towards unimaginable opportunities.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
>>> Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky  het
>>>volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> (Taken from 
>>>BlockedBlockedhttps://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-August/0354
>>>53.html)Blocked
>>>
>>> "Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly"
>>>
>>> now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about
>>>this.
>>>
>>> What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making
>>>how we, as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects
>>>from other organisations.
>>>
>>> What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects?
>>>Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects
>>>from any other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be
>>>promoted?
>>>
>>> Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an
>>>OSGeo charter member.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Helmut
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-18 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan 

Hi Marc,

Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting
OSGeo events and code sprints.

As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month,
we could consider going beyond the "informal" partnership
between LocationTech and OSGeo Foundation and having
a MoU. I think this would help to answer some of the questions
that Helmut has raised and avoid any misunderstandings
in the future.

I had sent you some suggestions on drafting an MoU that you can
go through and perhaps, find time to discuss f2f with OSGeo board
members attending FOSS4G-Boston.

Best

Venka

On 2017/08/18 6:23, Marc Vloemans wrote:

Dear Helmut,

I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and evolving 
community.

LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects, 
LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many years 
on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work regarding community 
and market development.

All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the efforts, 
care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that by raising a 
discussion as you propose

Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing Committee, 
former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G 2016, Chair of FOSS4G 
North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem Development Eclipse Foundation 
with special focus on its Industry Working Group LocationTech.

Your comments are actually turning back the clock.

If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately 
misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G in 
Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward. Towards 
unimaginable opportunities.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans



Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky  het volgende 
geschreven:

(Taken from https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-August/035453.html)

"Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly"

now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about this.

What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making how we, 
as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects from other 
organisations.

What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects? Will 
locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects from any 
other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be promoted?

Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an OSGeo charter 
member.

Kind regards
Helmut
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-17 Thread Marc Vloemans 
Dear Helmut,

I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and evolving 
community.

LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects, 
LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many years 
on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work regarding community 
and market development.

All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the efforts, 
care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that by raising a 
discussion as you propose

Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing Committee, 
former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G 2016, Chair of FOSS4G 
North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem Development Eclipse Foundation 
with special focus on its Industry Working Group LocationTech.

Your comments are actually turning back the clock.

If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately 
misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G in 
Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward. Towards 
unimaginable opportunities.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> (Taken from https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-August/035453.html)
> 
> "Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly"
> 
> now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about this. 
> 
> What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making how 
> we, as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects from other 
> organisations. 
> 
> What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects? Will 
> locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects from any 
> other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be promoted? 
> 
> Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an OSGeo 
> charter member. 
> 
> Kind regards 
> Helmut
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