Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Suchid, thank you for your first support, Also OGC, ICA etc. have difficulties to understand the magnitude of my invention: it's a simple idea but it opened more than 25 different applications, most of them have nothing to do with maps or software. The reason of this abundance is simple: the actual system has fundamental weak points www.volksnav.de/fundamental, that means, the emperor is naked. I'm sure, the number of applications will increase when students all over the world - other than today - will be motivated to be creative. The poster www.volksnav.de/evolution shows the actual "open" situation: the geoAwareness for locations, directions, distances and angles degenerated to left/right commands and left/right confusions. OSGeo could easily be the link to the new homo sapiens. According to my experience, in this special case "free and open" will have a complete other meaning as wanted against vendors: it will be understood that anyone can anytime define a "better" standard. A cartographer from the Nederland divides the horizon into 10 directions and call this more "natural" than mine because "we have 10 fingers". Do you agree with this argument? Are you the opinion that an orientation standard should be free to be violated? Let's compare my invention with the UN open GIS logo contest: why would UN pay for a logo? Why don't UN declare also the winner logo as free and open? Very simple: 1 a good and not a cost free logo is the priority 2 money is a proven motivation for creativity 3 intellectual work is respected and honored 4 misuse can be combated . So I take the liberty to express the actual situation with my own words: "Education and GeoAwareness are important but if the inventor tries to impede a chaos, then they aren't important" "We want to help the visually impaired but if the inventor tries to impede a chaos then we don't want to help them" Because of the magnitude of the invention, it's a mission impossible to define EXACTLY my aims. I've suggested to think about a start with a standardization of the circle "r100" www.volksnav.de/r100 but your free/open police department impedes any dialog about benefits for the population. r100 is only 0,005% of the invention, should also be a standard for TACTILE and imaginary maps www.volksnav.de/iphoneApps and would be my basic proposal for the Geographic Awareness Week. Let's propose it together or have I to do it alone? Henrique ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Henrique, Thank you for your mail. I am finding it difficult to understand your exact aims as in your previous mail you mention that there is some license fees for your tools [1] and now you mention they are free, open and libre. Will these conditions keep changing? Also if what you are proposing is a potential standard for orientation , then you should be talking to organisations like OGC. So first please clarify what exactly is your aim ? Geo4All is fully inclusive and welcome ideas for involving more user groups. So any opportunity to engage more with visually impaired user groups will be greatly welcome. In fact, in ICA there is a Commission on Maps and Graphics for Blind and Partially Sighted People?? [1] which i think will be a really good way to proactively engage with the community. I will email the chair of this commission and explore how Geo4All can further world-wide co-operation, communication and education in the use of maps and graphics by blind and visually-impaired people. For education it is important that all tools that Geo4All endorse are fully open and free. It is not just software, it is also the open educational materials, open data etc that we are interested. We will welcome any opportunity to make us more inclusive. You can email the Geo4All Advisory Board (cc in) your suggestions/ideas . Best wishes, Suchith btw Education is about true empowerment of young minds. It should not be aimed for getting new consumers! [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2016-August/016476.html [2] http://visualdisabilities.wixsite.com/icahome From: Munich Orientation Convention Sent: 05 September 2016 8:34 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org; Anand Suchith Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Hi Suchit, nowhere in the world there are so many visually impaired people as in India. For more than 100 years, most of them use imaginary clocks for orientation purposes and with this get GeoAwareness for directions and angles. Counting steps, they get additional GeoAwareness for locations and distances, having an alternative to lat/lon. The same tools use boy scouts, soldiers, pilots, children, people who can't read maps, illiterate etc. The mentioned tools are doubtless free, open and libre, so why do OSGeo, Geo4all etc. insist on ignoring them? Because it's not software? Because digital clocks are trendy? Because God dictated that the horizon has to be divided into 8 (see UN logo) or 360 directions? Because a convention for such imaginary tools could favor the merit principle? The topic is Geo Awareness Week, that means, education for young consumers. Would you really recommend "here" www.volksnav.de/YouAreHere<http://www.volksnav.de/YouAreHere>, Open Location Code www.openlocationcode.com<http://www.openlocationcode.com> and others just because they are free and open? Do they improve awareness for 1) locations, 2) directions, 3) distances and 4) angles? What about quality and excellence? Now that you're spiritually recharged, I'm sure that we could find an open minded win/win/win level and show that OSGeo/Geo4all aren't closed user groups but open user groups which e. g. also consider visually impaired people. I affirm that the actual black/white criteria concerning openness can cause the following collateral damages: - generate many win/lose products. After 5 years, Munich thinks about abandoning the expensive Linux/Limux. - demotivate to be creative A lose/lose situation. Henrique This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Suchit, nowhere in the world there are so many visually impaired people as in India. For more than 100 years, most of them use imaginary clocks for orientation purposes and with this get GeoAwareness for directions and angles. Counting steps, they get additional GeoAwareness for locations and distances, having an alternative to lat/lon. The same tools use boy scouts, soldiers, pilots, children, people who can't read maps, illiterate etc. The mentioned tools are doubtless free, open and libre, so why do OSGeo, Geo4all etc. insist on ignoring them? Because it's not software? Because digital clocks are trendy? Because God dictated that the horizon has to be divided into 8 (see UN logo) or 360 directions? Because a convention for such imaginary tools could favor the merit principle? The topic is Geo Awareness Week, that means, education for young consumers. Would you really recommend "here" www.volksnav.de/YouAreHere, Open Location Code www.openlocationcode.com and others just because they are free and open? Do they improve awareness for 1) locations, 2) directions, 3) distances and 4) angles? What about quality and excellence? Now that you're spiritually recharged, I'm sure that we could find an open minded win/win/win level and show that OSGeo/Geo4all aren't closed user groups but open user groups which e. g. also consider visually impaired people. I affirm that the actual black/white criteria concerning openness can cause the following collateral damages: - generate many win/lose products. After 5 years, Munich thinks about abandoning the expensive Linux/Limux. - demotivate to be creative A lose/lose situation. Henrique ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Apologies for the delay in reply as i had been travelling in India the last few weeks. I am now back spiritually recharged to take our mission to the next level :-) I agree with Barend. For education is important that all software and tools that Geo4All endorse should be fully free and open. I have requested the Geo4All Advisory Board to discuss this and come forward with a guideline , so we can ensure that we have a clear policy of openness in education. Best wishes, Suchith From: b.j.kob...@utwente.nl Sent: 16 August 2016 9:46 AM To: volks...@volksnav.de; Anand Suchith; discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 From: Discuss on behalf of Munich Orientation Convention Date: Tuesday 16 August 2016 at 09:02 To: 'Suchith Anand' , "discuss@lists.osgeo.org" , "standa...@lists.osgeo.org" Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Jonathan, the mentioned definitions concern software. The invention is NOT a software: logical location codes consist of hours, minutes and radius. This simple method allows to improve geoAwareness concerning the following elements: Locations answer to the question “where?” instead of “here”, what3words, OpenLocationCode etc. Directions answers to the question “whereto?” instead of just “there” Distances the radius is the distance to the pole, minutes are the distance to the hour (the greater, the later) Angles more than 50% of the population don’t know the meaning of “90 degrees” but 90% can read a clock This also allows a self-guiding WITHOUT MAPS like today’s self-guiding with house numbers. Does anybody see any software? The invention concerns IMAGINARY tools using the division of the horizon into 12 directions. Of course, these tools can only be free, open and libre. Besides: the definition deciders have forgotten that symbolical fees are best practice. Even the unleashing of the entire invention could be a possibility, but why should I invest time on that if nobody lets me know that she/he cares about the benefits for the consumers and students? In my opinion, the core of OSGeo is neither software nor maps but GeoAwareness. I propose to think about a branch called OpenImaginaryMaps (with a logo www.volksnav.de/OSGeoNewLogo ?) where OSGeo would - for the first time and without any software –have the possibility to contribute with a free and open search grid, free and open location codes, free and open forgotten navigation methods with compasses etc. etc. The contrary of nonsense is BonnSense. A matter for Bonn? Henrique Von: Jonathan Moules [mailto:jonathan-li...@lightpear.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 11:42 An: Munich Orientation Convention Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Hi Henrique, > "Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes." I'm not sure that's a good take-home from the conversation so far. The OSGeo appears to already have a pretty clear definition of what it considers free and open (from <http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html#Open_Source> http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html#Open_Source ) : "Open source software is software where the source code is made available under a license that allows the modification, and re-distribution of the software at will." So while there are multiple interpretations and variations for "free" and "open", as far as I can see, if software isn't distributed under an OSI approved license ( <https://opensource.org/licenses> https://opensource.org/licenses ), it's not "free and open" for the purposes of the current definition as used by the OSGeo. Whether the OSGeo definition (or by extension the OSI one) is correct is a question that's beyond the scope of my reply. :-) Cheers, Jonathan On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:00:38 +0100 Munich Orientation Convention< <mailto:volks...@volksnav.de> volks...@volksnav.de> wrote Hello Brian, thank you for the confirmation that MOC isn’t (and shouldn’t be) free and open. Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes. My last approach concerned ideas to the Geo Awareness Week, that means, for young consumers. A similar situation: adults decide about writing, publishing and buying books for children. In Bonn there will a speech about free, open and libre. This shows that in some cases openmania could be the wrong way. The site “free the post code” www.freeThePostCode.org proves that even enigmatic post codes aren’t free, therefore universities etc. promote it (by unreflected use?). According to my surveys, nobody knows where is the N/S/E/W transition point ( the pole ! ) in London. I also wrote to the National Geographic and I’m sure that Geo Awareness and open mind will overcome. One possibility could be to amputate the invention to a free and open torso for those who insist on saving EUR 1,- . Would this be of interest for OSGeo? Henrique Von: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag von Brian M Hamlin Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 21:29 An: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Dear Collea
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Henrique, > "Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes." I'm not sure that's a good take-home from the conversation so far. The OSGeo appears to already have a pretty clear definition of what it considers free and open (from http://www.osgeo.org/content/faq/foundation_faq.html#Open_Source ) : "Open source software is software where the source code is made available under a license that allows the modification, and re-distribution of the software at will." So while there are multiple interpretations and variations for "free" and "open", as far as I can see, if software isn't distributed under an OSI approved license (https://opensource.org/licenses ), it's not "free and open" for the purposes of the current definition as used by the OSGeo. Whether the OSGeo definition (or by extension the OSI one) is correct is a question that's beyond the scope of my reply. :-) Cheers, Jonathan On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:00:38 +0100 Munich Orientation Convention<volks...@volksnav.de> wrote Hello Brian, thank you for the confirmation that MOC isn’t (and shouldn’t be) free and open. Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes. My last approach concerned ideas to the Geo Awareness Week, that means, for young consumers. A similar situation: adults decide about writing, publishing and buying books for children. In Bonn there will a speech about free, open and libre. This shows that in some cases openmania could be the wrong way. The site “free the post code” www.freeThePostCode.org proves that even enigmatic post codes aren’t free, therefore universities etc. promote it (by unreflected use?). According to my surveys, nobody knows where is the N/S/E/W transition point ( the pole ! ) in London. I also wrote to the National Geographic and I’m sure that Geo Awareness and open mind will overcome. One possibility could be to amputate the invention to a free and open torso for those who insist on saving EUR 1,- . Would this be of interest for OSGeo? Henrique Von: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag von Brian M Hamlin Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 21:29 An: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Dear Colleagues - I strongly object to this statement.. " ... t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... " There are numerous references to cite here.. details on request best regards from Berkeley, California --Brian M Hamlin PSC OSGeo-Live, California Chapter ##=== Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:46:38 + From: <b.j.kob...@utwente.nl> To: <volks...@volksnav.de>, <suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>, <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, <standa...@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Message-ID: <f9c56c51-86aa-4de0-aa51-45c103098...@utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 ___ Standards mailing list standa...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/standards ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hello Brian, thank you for the confirmation that MOC isn’t (and shouldn’t be) free and open. Therefore: OSGeo decisions actually are taken in absence of representatives of the inventor and the consumer, consequently can change when the wind changes. My last approach concerned ideas to the Geo Awareness Week, that means, for young consumers. A similar situation: adults decide about writing, publishing and buying books for children. In Bonn there will a speech about free, open and libre. This shows that in some cases openmania could be the wrong way. The site “free the post code” www.freeThePostCode.org proves that even enigmatic post codes aren’t free, therefore universities etc. promote it (by unreflected use?). According to my surveys, nobody knows where is the N/S/E/W transition point ( the pole ! ) in London. I also wrote to the National Geographic and I’m sure that Geo Awareness and open mind will overcome. One possibility could be to amputate the invention to a free and open torso for those who insist on saving EUR 1,- . Would this be of interest for OSGeo? Henrique Von: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag von Brian M Hamlin Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 21:29 An: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; standa...@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Dear Colleagues - I strongly object to this statement.. " ... t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... " There are numerous references to cite here.. details on request best regards from Berkeley, California --Brian M Hamlin PSC OSGeo-Live, California Chapter ##=== Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:46:38 + From: To: , , , Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Brian, I would second Barends claim, that this can not be considered as open. For me this looks like the following: 1. Someone claims intellectual property rights on some formalized idea. 2. This someone now promotes and sells this idea for a fee. Please help me on how this approach can be considered as open? Hint [1], [2]. Thanks, Christian [1] http://opendefinition.org/ [2] https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt Am 16.08.2016 um 21:29 schrieb Brian M Hamlin: Dear Colleagues - I strongly object to this statement.. " ... t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... " There are numerous references to cite here.. details on request best regards from Berkeley, California --Brian M Hamlin PSC OSGeo-Live, California Chapter ##=== Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:46:38 + From: To: , , , Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Christian Willmes AG GIS & Fernerkundung | GIS & RS Group Geographisches Institut | Institute of Geography Universität zu Köln | University of Cologne Tel.: +49 (0)221 470 6234 http://www.geographie.uni-koeln.de/willmes-christian.695.en.html http://www.sfb806.de http://crc806db.uni-koeln.de ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Dear Colleagues - I strongly object to this statement.. " ... t this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... " There are numerous references to cite here.. details on request best regards from Berkeley, California --Brian M Hamlin PSC OSGeo-Live, California Chapter ##=== Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 08:46:38 + From: To: , , , Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- " This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with... Yours, -- Barend Köbben Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands) ITC Building (room 1-065) @barendkobben +31-(0)53 4874 253 From: Discuss on behalf of Munich Orientation Convention Date: Tuesday 16 August 2016 at 09:02 To: 'Suchith Anand' , "discuss@lists.osgeo.org" , "standa...@lists.osgeo.org" Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Hi Suchith, concerning your call for ideas: why only software? For the first time, a geography teacher in Brazil got last week a diploma using imaginary clocks as final year project. The test school was the Joao XXIII www.volksnav.de/JoaoXXIII and the project also called the attention to actual week points e. g. division of the horizon into 360 directions or none, the sunside trap www.volksnav.de/sunside (test your students ! ) etc. Exercises like the finding of Easter eggs, finding rooms with the help of children-proper and clickable room numbers etc. have been performed. Remark: no bits nor bytes have been needed, only synapses. The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- and in my opinion this "iron curtain" isn't hindrance enough to cause an harem guard or garden dog behavior: ignore the fruits but don't let others take the benefit. I herewith offer my invention for use during the Geography Awareness Week to the named fee. Henrique Von: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Im Auftrag von Suchith Anand Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2016 12:54 An: geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org Betreff: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week Dear colleague, 20 years back academics and educators (esp. in developing countries) struggled to start GIS courses for thier students and had to beg to vendors for some "free" licences .Now they dont need any "charity" from any vendors, as they are fully empowered and can start courses as they wish without any permissions from any vendor owners . We want academics globally to be fully empowered from now and give software as they wish to thier students education. By making free and open software and educational resources available for all has empowered academics and educators globally and brought down the "Iron Curtains" that some vendors have tried to create in education. Now no vendors can dictate terms to any academic or educator or student. We want academics to be in full control of education from now not any vendors. I would like to thank the OSGeo Live community for making available Version 10.0 of the OSGeo-Live GIS software collection that has been released, ready for the FOSS4G conference in Bonn, Germany - the annual global event of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). OSGeo Live is an excellent resource for academics and educators around the world to teach geospatial science and give away the software for free to thier students thereby empowering them in the true sense. This excellent resource is made available to the global community thanks to the hardwork and selfless dedication of hundreds of volunteers (Developers, packagers, documenters and translators) in addition to thousands who have been involved in building the packaged software. Thank you all for making this possible. OSGeo-Live is a self-contained bootable DVD, USB flash drive and Virtual Machine, pre-installed with robust open source geospatial software, which can be trialled without installing anything. OSGeo Live includes: * Over 50 quality geospatial Open Source applications installed and pre-configured * Free world maps and sample datasets * Project Overview and step-by-step Quickstart for each application * Lightning presentation of all applications, along with speaker's script * Translations to multiple languages Details at http://live.osgeo.org Download details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html Contents overview at https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html I request all colleagues globally to make use of opportunities like Geography Awareness Week (November 13 - 19, 2016) and other important Geography events like OSM Week 2016, GIS Day 2016etc to spread Geo4All ideas and give away OSGeo Live DVD, USB to your colleagues and students so they dont have to buy any properitery GIS software and truly empowering them. By doing so, you are gifting millions of dollars of software to your students (if i may borrow some ideas from our properitery friends! :-) So go ahead and gift software for free from now at all Geography Awareness Week and all other key GIS events... We want all academics from now be the owners of the software and tools . You dont have to get permission from any properitery GIS vendor owners to start your courses or gift software to your students! Geo4All is and will be always open to all projects and initiatives that support Open Principles in Education. We have a duty and long term view on Open Principles in education to ensure that free and open geospatial education opportunities are available not just to current generation but also to our future generations... Best wishes, Suchith Dr.
[OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week
Dear colleague, 20 years back academics and educators (esp. in developing countries) struggled to start GIS courses for thier students and had to beg to vendors for some "free" licences .Now they dont need any "charity" from any vendors, as they are fully empowered and can start courses as they wish without any permissions from any vendor owners . We want academics globally to be fully empowered from now and give software as they wish to thier students education. By making free and open software and educational resources available for all has empowered academics and educators globally and brought down the "Iron Curtains" that some vendors have tried to create in education. Now no vendors can dictate terms to any academic or educator or student. We want academics to be in full control of education from now not any vendors. I would like to thank the OSGeo Live community for making available Version 10.0 of the OSGeo-Live GIS software collection that has been released, ready for the FOSS4G conference in Bonn, Germany - the annual global event of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo). OSGeo Live is an excellent resource for academics and educators around the world to teach geospatial science and give away the software for free to thier students thereby empowering them in the true sense. This excellent resource is made available to the global community thanks to the hardwork and selfless dedication of hundreds of volunteers (Developers, packagers, documenters and translators) in addition to thousands who have been involved in building the packaged software. Thank you all for making this possible. OSGeo-Live is a self-contained bootable DVD, USB flash drive and Virtual Machine, pre-installed with robust open source geospatial software, which can be trialled without installing anything. OSGeo Live includes: * Over 50 quality geospatial Open Source applications installed and pre-configured * Free world maps and sample datasets * Project Overview and step-by-step Quickstart for each application * Lightning presentation of all applications, along with speaker's script * Translations to multiple languages Details at http://live.osgeo.org Download details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html Contents overview at https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html I request all colleagues globally to make use of opportunities like Geography Awareness Week (November 13 - 19, 2016) and other important Geography events like OSM Week 2016, GIS Day 2016etc to spread Geo4All ideas and give away OSGeo Live DVD, USB to your colleagues and students so they dont have to buy any properitery GIS software and truly empowering them. By doing so, you are gifting millions of dollars of software to your students (if i may borrow some ideas from our properitery friends! :-) So go ahead and gift software for free from now at all Geography Awareness Week and all other key GIS events... We want all academics from now be the owners of the software and tools . You dont have to get permission from any properitery GIS vendor owners to start your courses or gift software to your students! Geo4All is and will be always open to all projects and initiatives that support Open Principles in Education. We have a duty and long term view on Open Principles in education to ensure that free and open geospatial education opportunities are available not just to current generation but also to our future generations... Best wishes, Suchith Dr. Suchith Anand http://www.geoforall.org/ Geo for All - Building and expanding Open Geospatial Science This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss