RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
Perhaps I have muddied the waters with my clumsy efforts. :] The idea of a dictionary for GIS terms is great, and is something that will be useful for work on the Free GIS Book. I have no problem working on dictionary entries at Wiktionary or somewhere else. For the time being I'll add my definitions to the Starter Dictionary page I created on the OSGeo Wiki. When the group decides where we want our geodefinitions permanently, I'll work on moving the content in the starter dictionary over. My idea about the Wikipedia entries was not meant to replace the dictionary, but was a separate beast entirely. I don't want the two ideas to be confused. I think there would be content appropriate for an article on something like Wikinfo that wouldn't be appropriate for a dictionary. I hope I haven't made a mess of things. I was just throwing some ideas out there. I'll keep adding entries to the Starter Dictionary page of the OSGeo Wiki as I work on my Metadata chapter and articles for the OSGeo Journal. I will support moving to whatever dictionary platform best fits the OSGeo in the future. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Neteler Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:37 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia On Dec 20, 2007 4:14 PM, Alexandre Leroux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lester Caine wrote: And more critically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_i s_not_a_dictionary PREVENTS using it as a repository of terms :( As the link you just provided indicates, Wiktionary is the Wikipedia equivalent for a dictionary. I admit I haven't read this whole thread, but it would make sense to me to use Wiktionary as a repository of geo-definitions. Right, see http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_Multilanguage_Dictionary Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
Thanks Lester. I'll move forward with my original plan for maintenance and creation of Wikipedia entries at Wikinfo instead. Others can join my personal efforts if they are interested. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lester Caine Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:53 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia Landon Blake wrote: This is really good feedback, and has helped me reevaluate my original idea. What about using Wikinfo instead? It seems that they have some more reasonable and flexible policies on content and editing. http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page In fact, I think there article on GIS is better that the one on Wikipedia: http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/index.php/Geographic_information_sy stem I've modified my page on the OSGeo to reflect this possible change: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Wikipedia_Entry_Maintenance A quick scan of Wikinfo would seem to indicate that it intends filling the gaps that wikipedia has forcefully created. But I think it needs a lot more input yet - there are lots of red links in the sections I went through :) Thanks for the link - it looks like it will solve my other problems as well! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
On Dec 20, 2007 12:19 AM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and there was some other discussion about a multi-language GIS dictionary. Here the link to my proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_Multilanguage_Dictionary Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
Thanks Markus. I should have included that link in my message. Landon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Neteler Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:26 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia On Dec 20, 2007 12:19 AM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and there was some other discussion about a multi-language GIS dictionary. Here the link to my proposal: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/OSGeo_Multilanguage_Dictionary Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
Landon Blake wrote: We could set up a wiki page to coordinate Wikipedia entries we help to maintain, and I could start by migrating some of the appropriate definition entries from the dictionary to Wikipedia. Any thoughts or comments? Is anyone else interested in this? (Is it a good idea?) You would think the idea is good, but Wikipedia has a major problem with arrogance :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Geographic_information_system is a starting point for references to software, but if the package is not 'notable' it will be killed as will probably happen with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapnik And more critically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary PREVENTS using it as a repository of terms :( So perhaps we need a Openpedia to store all the useful information. ( And I admit to being pissed off with wikipedia because they just culled an article I wrote on an open source CMS package, while several other 'advertisements' remain - if you LIST open source projects then they should all be listed - mapnik and other packages should ALL be present ? ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Landon Blake wrote: This might be more appropriate for the marketing mailing list, but I thought all members might want a chance to comment. I’ve been doing a little work on a dictionary of GIS terms with some of the folks from the education committee. At this point I’m only defining terms I run across while writing my Metadata chapter of the Free GIS Book. My work on the dictionary got me thinking about Wikipedia. Would there be any benefit to having a coordinate group of OSGeo volunteers that create and maintain GIS and FOSS GIS entries on Wikipedia? I know that is one place a lot of people might get their first tidbit of information about GIS. I thought this might be a great way to get some positive public exposure, and to also provide a public service. Landon, the OSGeo entry is already there along with entries for several of the OSGEo projects (GRASS, etc) We could set up a wiki page to coordinate Wikipedia entries we help to maintain, and I could start by migrating some of the appropriate definition entries from the dictionary to Wikipedia. I think that wikipedia entries for GIS terminology (with links to relevant osgeo web pages where appropriate) would be more useful than a dictionary of GIS terms maintained on OSGeo web site. There are probably quite a few entries already, although I found a lot missing when we were trying to cleanup the terminology used in our book. If you are thinking more about dictionary entries, Wiktionary may be a good place, but I am not sure that is what you are trying to do, Helena Any thoughts or comments? Is anyone else interested in this? (Is it a good idea?) The Sunburned Surveyor Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
