Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Sandro Santilli]

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:28:30PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

> communication channels like Gitter. I see, people may prefer chats like that.
> By the way https://gitter.im/OSGeo.

People that don't mind having a GitHub account and using proprietary
software to communicate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitter

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Jeff McKenna]

Hi Mike,

I agree this is a good discussion.  By the way, Tim Sutton just pointed 
me to a decision making platform that QGIS is now using, I think it 
would be great to have an OSGeo instance (see below):




On 2015-10-17 6:53 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> did you consider using something like loomio - we found it very
> frustrating dealing with decisions via email +1 / -1 etc system as it is
> very hard to know when the decision is made, hard to back reference
> decisions and people tend to start voting on things willy nilly without
> having a well defined motion in place. We recently switched to using
> loomio.org  which is a FOSS platform for shared
> decision making. It separates the discussion from the vote(s) but puts
> them side by side so you can see the context. It also lets you set a
> deadline for making votes. Its really nice and natural to use. Maybe it
> would be nice to have an OSGEO instance that all projects could use - we
> just opted to use their hosted version under the philosophy that the
> less stuff we have to manage ourselves the better…. Here is our QGIS
> project on loomio:
>
> https://www.loomio.org/g/EKV14L8A/qgis




On 2015-10-18 9:16 AM, Michael Smith wrote:

Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?


I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.

What would be useful to OSGeo projects?


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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Michael Smith]

Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?


I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.

What would be useful to OSGeo projects?


Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
treasu...@osgeo.org





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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Sandro Santilli]

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:16:10AM -0400, Michael Smith wrote:
> Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
> OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
> MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?
> 
> 
> I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
> alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.
> 
> What would be useful to OSGeo projects?

It takes a poll, I guess.
Personally, IRC serves me well (but we could add an irc server link to
the freenode network from osgeo machines :)

BTW: this wiki page may be helpful, and surely can be enhanced:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:SaaSS_replacements

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Tom Kralidis]

fwiw DemocracyOS [1] may be worth a look as well.

[1] http://democracyos.org/

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I agree this is a good discussion.  By the way, Tim Sutton just pointed me
> to a decision making platform that QGIS is now using, I think it would be
> great to have an OSGeo instance (see below):
>
> 
>
> On 2015-10-17 6:53 PM, Tim Sutton wrote:
>>
>> did you consider using something like loomio - we found it very
>> frustrating dealing with decisions via email +1 / -1 etc system as it is
>> very hard to know when the decision is made, hard to back reference
>> decisions and people tend to start voting on things willy nilly without
>> having a well defined motion in place. We recently switched to using
>> loomio.org  which is a FOSS platform for shared
>> decision making. It separates the discussion from the vote(s) but puts
>> them side by side so you can see the context. It also lets you set a
>> deadline for making votes. Its really nice and natural to use. Maybe it
>> would be nice to have an OSGEO instance that all projects could use - we
>> just opted to use their hosted version under the philosophy that the
>> less stuff we have to manage ourselves the better…. Here is our QGIS
>> project on loomio:
>>
>> https://www.loomio.org/g/EKV14L8A/qgis
>
>
> 
>
> On 2015-10-18 9:16 AM, Michael Smith wrote:
>>
>> Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
>> OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
>> MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?
>>
>>
>> I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
>> alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.
>>
>> What would be useful to OSGeo projects?
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

[Mateusz Loskot]

On 18 October 2015 at 14:16, Michael Smith  wrote:
> Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
> OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
> MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?

Personally, IRC has served me well, but recently I started appreciating
communication channels like Gitter. I see, people may prefer chats like that.
By the way https://gitter.im/OSGeo.

For a GitHub-hosted project, I see how Gitter may be valuable for discussions
about issues, PRs, with easy linking to those artefacts, with archived logs,
but without polluting issues/PRs with too many comments.
Too much brainstorming in comments to issues/PRs may easily become
maintenance nightmare.

> I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
> alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.
>
> What would be useful to OSGeo projects?

Yes, I guess so.

Best regards,
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Mateusz  Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
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