[OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Carsten Troelsgaard


Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview .. 
anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a 
particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best 
tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited 
user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential 
GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for 
taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.
I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components 
that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network   If 
these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important 
(or all) OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it 
will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 
'module' constitute may not conform.
I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, 
tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel. Would it be possible to pull a 
KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple).
Feel free to smile and think ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his 
homework! 

CarstenT


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Hi Carsten,Some years ago I made this graphic to illustrate that, including a legend: http://eos.geocat.net/download/SDI-Architecture.pdf (to big for inclusion in the email)Although there are a few outdated and a few new components around today (OpenLayers is not yet listed in thin-clients for example), I think it is still a good starting point. I'm sure others have made more recent versions also.Kind regards,Jeroen
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On 2 okt. 2011, at 09:47, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview ..anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network If these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important(or all)OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 'module' constitute may not conform.I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel.Would it be possible to pull a KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple").Feel free to smile and think "ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his homework!"CarstenT___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.osgeo.orghttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread se...@arnulf.us
Carsten, 
you find these most simplistic categories right on the OSGeo web site on the 
right hand: http://osgeo.org 

Another good starting point might be OSGeo Live at: http://live.osgeo.org/ 
which also includes short descriptions in several languages and projects not 
directly related to OSGeo. Another source of information is http://freegis.org/ 
, currently maybe the most comprehensive collection with short descriptions.

Do you think this is enough to get going? If not please suggest what else would 
be helpful. 

Best regards, 
Arnulf

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Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview .. 
anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a 
particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best 
tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited 
user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential 
GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for 
taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.
I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components 
that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network   If 
these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important 
(or all) OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it 
will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 
'module' constitute may not conform.
I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, 
tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel. Would it be possible to pull a 
KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple).
Feel free to smile and think ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his 
homework! 

CarstenT


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
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On 02.10.2011 12:50, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:
 
 Jeroen, it looks very promising - I look forward to delve on it and will
 surely keep it for further reference.
 
 Arnulf, the osgeo page has links to projects. The tab/ web mapping  has
 an array of (similar at a glance) web mapping projects (mapbender,
 mapfish ...). I assume that the projects have functional overlap. Is
 there any other way to 'evaluate' without scrutinizing all of them
 individually?

Hi Carsten,
there are several comparisons around but none of them will be endorsed
by OSGeo an has the one right answer. The Open Sourece ecosystm is so
diverse that there will always be competing projects, each of them good
in what they do. It is really up to you to find out which one suits your
needs better. In the end diversity wins. If you opt for an OSGeo project
you can be sure that the licencing is right and that there is a
community behind the project.

A good example might be a mapping framework comparison we gave at a
FOSS4G conference [1]. 30 slides explain the primary areas of use for
the projects OpenLayers, Mapbender, GeoMajas and MapFish. They all
appear under the category web mapping but are still different,
complement or even build on each other.

Web map servers can be compared in the benchmark / shootout that takes
place at FOSS4G each year [2]. But again - this is just one aspect of
the software. Other aspects might include that you have a company around
your place that can help you [3]. Or you might be looking for
maintenance contracts to support you when you go online with a massive
installation.

...and if you ask on this list eventually every project will answer and
let you know that they are the best (the projects that do not answer are
busy getting better). It is what we are here for. :-)

Again - if you have ideas how we could better guide new parties through
the different options let this list know.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

[1]
http://arnulf.us/FOSS4G_2010#A_typification_of_Open_Source_web_mapping_client_software_and_frameworks
[2]
http://www.slideshare.net/gatewaygeomatics.com/wms-performance-shootout-2011/
[3] http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile


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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Carsten Troelsgaard

Arnulf, Thanks for your thorough input
CarstenT

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 On 02.10.2011 12:50, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:
  
  Jeroen, it looks very promising - I look forward to delve on it and will
  surely keep it for further reference.
  
  Arnulf, the osgeo page has links to projects. The tab/ web mapping  has
  an array of (similar at a glance) web mapping projects (mapbender,
  mapfish ...). I assume that the projects have functional overlap. Is
  there any other way to 'evaluate' without scrutinizing all of them
  individually?
 
 Hi Carsten,
 there are several comparisons around but none of them will be endorsed
 by OSGeo an has the one right answer. The Open Sourece ecosystm is so
 diverse that there will always be competing projects, each of them good
 in what they do. It is really up to you to find out which one suits your
 needs better. In the end diversity wins. If you opt for an OSGeo project
 you can be sure that the licencing is right and that there is a
 community behind the project.
 
 A good example might be a mapping framework comparison we gave at a
 FOSS4G conference [1]. 30 slides explain the primary areas of use for
 the projects OpenLayers, Mapbender, GeoMajas and MapFish. They all
 appear under the category web mapping but are still different,
 complement or even build on each other.
 
 Web map servers can be compared in the benchmark / shootout that takes
 place at FOSS4G each year [2]. But again - this is just one aspect of
 the software. Other aspects might include that you have a company around
 your place that can help you [3]. Or you might be looking for
 maintenance contracts to support you when you go online with a massive
 installation.
 
 ...and if you ask on this list eventually every project will answer and
 let you know that they are the best (the projects that do not answer are
 busy getting better). It is what we are here for. :-)
 
 Again - if you have ideas how we could better guide new parties through
 the different options let this list know.
 
 Best regards,
 Arnulf.
 
 [1]
 http://arnulf.us/FOSS4G_2010#A_typification_of_Open_Source_web_mapping_client_software_and_frameworks
 [2]
 http://www.slideshare.net/gatewaygeomatics.com/wms-performance-shootout-2011/
 [3] http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile
 
 
  Thanks a lot to both of you
  
  CarstenT
  
  
  
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